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Your favorite album sucks. It's December, so you know what that means - best of 2006 album lists! While everyone eagerly awaits the latest Christmas card from Ignited Minds pass the time deriding/praising your favorite/hated indie/hipster/industry site for recognizing/snubbing (fill in the blank with band of choice here)! Lists, lists and more lists.
While some think EOY lists are pointless or conceited, others find worst of lists are much better. This Mefite finds them an early Christmas list of torrent downloading goodness.
And if you're having problems making your list please refer to this handy dandy cheat sheet.
They still make albums?
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 9:57 AM on December 4, 2006
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 9:57 AM on December 4, 2006
For the past few years I've looked forward to this time of year as a source of fuel for my unquenchable new music thirst. I usually wind up downloading 30 or so new albums between the various lists, and have discovered many great bands this way. I'm still waiting on the Pitchfork and Stylus pics this year, but I've kept up better this year and hope that there are a few surprises for me this year.
Plus I love the comments that go on whenever these things are posted.
And seriously does anyone have any info about the Ignited minds site this year?
posted by daHIFI at 10:02 AM on December 4, 2006
Plus I love the comments that go on whenever these things are posted.
And seriously does anyone have any info about the Ignited minds site this year?
posted by daHIFI at 10:02 AM on December 4, 2006
not a single mention of peter bjorn and john's writers block--what a travesty.
posted by Kifer85 at 10:08 AM on December 4, 2006
posted by Kifer85 at 10:08 AM on December 4, 2006
I can think of at least one notable omission from these best-of lists.
posted by cortex at 10:12 AM on December 4, 2006
posted by cortex at 10:12 AM on December 4, 2006
Lists + firefox + dragandgo + isohunt search plugin + utorrent: oodles of new music in no time flat.
posted by signal at 10:14 AM on December 4, 2006 [1 favorite]
posted by signal at 10:14 AM on December 4, 2006 [1 favorite]
How To Make A Hip End of the Year 'Best Albums' List. [from 2005, but still hilarious].
posted by yeti at 11:09 AM on December 4, 2006
posted by yeti at 11:09 AM on December 4, 2006
I usually wind up downloading 30 or so new albums between the various lists, and have discovered many great bands this way.
Bully for you. I'm sure these great bands are just brimming with gratitude at you not bothering to buy their records. (Yeah, I know, you're sticking it to the man... except that I imagine Pitchfork and Stylus will be listing a fair few acts on small independent labels.)
posted by jack_mo at 11:32 AM on December 4, 2006
Bully for you. I'm sure these great bands are just brimming with gratitude at you not bothering to buy their records. (Yeah, I know, you're sticking it to the man... except that I imagine Pitchfork and Stylus will be listing a fair few acts on small independent labels.)
posted by jack_mo at 11:32 AM on December 4, 2006
Downloading does not equal stealing. I download most of my music. For money, which I am happy to pay to support the musicians.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 11:37 AM on December 4, 2006
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 11:37 AM on December 4, 2006
And I have actually, you know, purchased albums based on mp3s of bands I would never have heard of even if I did listen to the goddam radio (which is a kind of WIRELESS stealing, after all).
I think you're overreacting, jack_mo.
posted by cortex at 11:38 AM on December 4, 2006
I think you're overreacting, jack_mo.
posted by cortex at 11:38 AM on December 4, 2006
Seriously, caddis is right. fimoculous is all you need, any other attempt will pale in comparison.
posted by Falconetti at 11:43 AM on December 4, 2006
posted by Falconetti at 11:43 AM on December 4, 2006
sfts2: "Pretentious, yet unrefined."
On the contrary, I find much of this to be heavily refined. It's the new & improved Wonder® Bread of the music industry: Now with Flax seed.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 11:43 AM on December 4, 2006
On the contrary, I find much of this to be heavily refined. It's the new & improved Wonder® Bread of the music industry: Now with Flax seed.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 11:43 AM on December 4, 2006
Cortex, listening to music on the radio is not wireless stealing. Copyright violation stems from, well, copying protected music. Perhaps jack_mo finds it mildly interesting, as I do, that people who presumably do download music illegally (e.g. from torrent sites alluded to above) show so little discretion about doing so, and even appear proud of it.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to everyone’s lists; to the ensuing eye-rolling; the outrage; the pedantry, and--I'm hoping--some great new musical finds.
posted by applemeat at 12:08 PM on December 4, 2006
Anyway, I'm looking forward to everyone’s lists; to the ensuing eye-rolling; the outrage; the pedantry, and--I'm hoping--some great new musical finds.
posted by applemeat at 12:08 PM on December 4, 2006
For the past few years I've looked forward to this time of year as a source of fuel for my unquenchable new music thirst. I usually wind up downloading 30 or so new albums between the various lists, and have discovered many great bands this way. I'm still waiting on the Pitchfork and Stylus pics this year, but I've kept up better this year and hope that there are a few surprises for me this year.
Exactly. For example, Pitchfork's list is usually good for quite a few bands I haven't heard of--at least four or five of which I end up really liking. There's not much point arguing about what people choose, or don't choose, since it doesn't end up going anywhere. They're useful resources.
posted by The God Complex at 12:19 PM on December 4, 2006
Exactly. For example, Pitchfork's list is usually good for quite a few bands I haven't heard of--at least four or five of which I end up really liking. There's not much point arguing about what people choose, or don't choose, since it doesn't end up going anywhere. They're useful resources.
posted by The God Complex at 12:19 PM on December 4, 2006
Cortex, listening to music on the radio is not wireless stealing. Copyright violation stems from, well, copying protected music.
That was a bit of a joke, actually. However, listening to mp3s from the internet isn't stealing either; as you say, it's copyright violation. Not that I want to have this argument; I'm not really a big proponent of either far camp. I just think the equivilance of discovering bands from mp3s with anti-artist stealy-stealing is rather off the mark for a lot of folks.
posted by cortex at 12:27 PM on December 4, 2006
That was a bit of a joke, actually. However, listening to mp3s from the internet isn't stealing either; as you say, it's copyright violation. Not that I want to have this argument; I'm not really a big proponent of either far camp. I just think the equivilance of discovering bands from mp3s with anti-artist stealy-stealing is rather off the mark for a lot of folks.
posted by cortex at 12:27 PM on December 4, 2006
Largehearted Boy has been posting links to end of the year lists every day.
posted by nuclear_soup at 1:42 PM on December 4, 2006
posted by nuclear_soup at 1:42 PM on December 4, 2006
Downloading does not equal stealing.
Of course not, but the prominent mention of bittorrent suggests legit paid downloads aren't the kind of downloads being referred to.
Perhaps jack_mo finds it mildly interesting, as I do, that people who presumably do download music illegally (e.g. from torrent sites alluded to above) show so little discretion about doing so, and even appear proud of it.
Yeah, that's the attitude thatI find mildly interesting pisses me off. I know lots of bands and people who run small labels, who release records hand-to-mouth, so to speak, using the money from one record to finance the next, so gleefully downloading without a thought (which is the impression DaHIFI is giving, though I might be misinterpreting) directly lessens the chances of new music being released.
I just think the equivilance of discovering bands from mp3s with anti-artist stealy-stealing is rather off the mark for a lot of folks.
Oh, defo. I download tons of stuff illegally myself as a way to find new music or try before I buy - it was the 'woo! find stuff to download for free!' tone of the post that made me overreact.
posted by jack_mo at 1:44 PM on December 4, 2006
Of course not, but the prominent mention of bittorrent suggests legit paid downloads aren't the kind of downloads being referred to.
Perhaps jack_mo finds it mildly interesting, as I do, that people who presumably do download music illegally (e.g. from torrent sites alluded to above) show so little discretion about doing so, and even appear proud of it.
Yeah, that's the attitude that
I just think the equivilance of discovering bands from mp3s with anti-artist stealy-stealing is rather off the mark for a lot of folks.
Oh, defo. I download tons of stuff illegally myself as a way to find new music or try before I buy - it was the 'woo! find stuff to download for free!' tone of the post that made me overreact.
posted by jack_mo at 1:44 PM on December 4, 2006
god how i hate best of lists. yet i still read them. i guess i do create my own suffering.
posted by andywolf at 1:58 PM on December 4, 2006
posted by andywolf at 1:58 PM on December 4, 2006
Oh, defo. I download tons of stuff illegally myself as a way to find new music or try before I buy - it was the 'woo! find stuff to download for free!' tone of the post that made me overreact.
I can dig it. I think we pretty much agree about the core ethics of it. However, to be clear, I think you treated daHIFI's original comment rather unfairly across the board. He said:
I usually wind up downloading 30 or so new albums between the various lists, and have discovered many great bands this way.
Which does not compare unfavorably with your own comment:
I download tons of stuff illegally myself as a way to find new music or try before I buy...
Unless you unerringly buy everything you download and try out, you are very much engaging in the "woo! find stuff to download for free!" culture, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that of it's own.
posted by cortex at 2:01 PM on December 4, 2006
I can dig it. I think we pretty much agree about the core ethics of it. However, to be clear, I think you treated daHIFI's original comment rather unfairly across the board. He said:
I usually wind up downloading 30 or so new albums between the various lists, and have discovered many great bands this way.
Which does not compare unfavorably with your own comment:
I download tons of stuff illegally myself as a way to find new music or try before I buy...
Unless you unerringly buy everything you download and try out, you are very much engaging in the "woo! find stuff to download for free!" culture, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that of it's own.
posted by cortex at 2:01 PM on December 4, 2006
"This circle is about free expression; not fascist moves!"
"Best" lists are, at best, a sham. At their worst, they're crimes of pretension; pretending that there is some objective standard (which is of course never named) of perfection against which all others are measured percentagewise, a la the Pritchard Scale. In a nicer world, every such list would instead be "Our Favorites" or "Editors' Choices for 20X6", but I'm not holding my breath.
They are great, however, for stirring conversation and provoking outrage by people who take such things seriously, and by people who take the taking of such things seriously seriously, and so on.
posted by Eideteker at 4:21 PM on December 4, 2006
"Best" lists are, at best, a sham. At their worst, they're crimes of pretension; pretending that there is some objective standard (which is of course never named) of perfection against which all others are measured percentagewise, a la the Pritchard Scale. In a nicer world, every such list would instead be "Our Favorites" or "Editors' Choices for 20X6", but I'm not holding my breath.
They are great, however, for stirring conversation and provoking outrage by people who take such things seriously, and by people who take the taking of such things seriously seriously, and so on.
posted by Eideteker at 4:21 PM on December 4, 2006
I'll will pay someone $8 to put the as of yet unreleased, DJ Dial-tone "If you'd like to make a call EP" on their year end list.
email's in the profile
posted by drezdn at 5:04 PM on December 4, 2006
email's in the profile
posted by drezdn at 5:04 PM on December 4, 2006
For once, I agree with a list: Toure and Tom Waits take all.
posted by bukharin at 7:10 PM on December 4, 2006
Can someone please post a list of the top 10 comments in this thread?
posted by srboisvert at 3:35 AM on December 5, 2006
posted by srboisvert at 3:35 AM on December 5, 2006
"I know lots of bands and people who run small labels, who release records hand-to-mouth, so to speak, using the money from one record to finance the next, so gleefully downloading without a thought (which is the impression DaHIFI is giving, though I might be misinterpreting) directly lessens the chances of new music being released."
Yeah, so do I, and that's a big reason why I infringe liberally in building my music collection. My cash goes to those people (I just bought $40 worth of records from microlabels on Friday, despite being pretty broke), so I cut myself some moral leeway on buying the newest Jay-Z joint.
I buy small and local first, then local (usually at shows), then small, then medium indie, then things with such cool packaging that I would miss out by downloading, and then (gasp) slap on my eye-patch and go a-piratin'. Perhaps more disturbing for major labels (if they're really worried about my copyin' ass), when I finally get money, I tend not to buy new fancy albums and merch, but spend it on old, hard to find vinyl and out-of-print stuff that they still don't see a dime on (remember when the RIAA fought second-hand record stores? I still do, and fuck them).
So yeah, I downloaded the latest Aguilera jam, and it's a great song (best single of the year, baby), and I'm proud that I didn't pay a cent for it. I'm also proud that I picked up stuff from IAmJanet.net, Bulb Records, the Bad Idea House, and No Fun Records lately and paid for it instead of hustling them for "review copies." I'm much more proud of that.
AND I'D DO IT AGAIN IN A SECOND.
posted by klangklangston at 4:35 PM on December 5, 2006
Yeah, so do I, and that's a big reason why I infringe liberally in building my music collection. My cash goes to those people (I just bought $40 worth of records from microlabels on Friday, despite being pretty broke), so I cut myself some moral leeway on buying the newest Jay-Z joint.
I buy small and local first, then local (usually at shows), then small, then medium indie, then things with such cool packaging that I would miss out by downloading, and then (gasp) slap on my eye-patch and go a-piratin'. Perhaps more disturbing for major labels (if they're really worried about my copyin' ass), when I finally get money, I tend not to buy new fancy albums and merch, but spend it on old, hard to find vinyl and out-of-print stuff that they still don't see a dime on (remember when the RIAA fought second-hand record stores? I still do, and fuck them).
So yeah, I downloaded the latest Aguilera jam, and it's a great song (best single of the year, baby), and I'm proud that I didn't pay a cent for it. I'm also proud that I picked up stuff from IAmJanet.net, Bulb Records, the Bad Idea House, and No Fun Records lately and paid for it instead of hustling them for "review copies." I'm much more proud of that.
AND I'D DO IT AGAIN IN A SECOND.
posted by klangklangston at 4:35 PM on December 5, 2006
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