The Hawkeye Initiative
December 2, 2012 7:42 AM   Subscribe

The Hawkeye Initiative Hawkeye drawn in some "classic" comic poses.
posted by drezdn (36 comments total) 27 users marked this as a favorite

 
This is awesome.
posted by shakespeherian at 7:56 AM on December 2, 2012


Heh.

The current Hawkeye comic, BTW, is a thing of wonder, Matt Fraction and David Aja doing some amazing work there.

Issue 7 is the Hurricane Sandy Issue - Fraction is giving his writers fee to charity.
posted by Artw at 7:56 AM on December 2, 2012 [5 favorites]


Butt sparkles!
posted by Gordafarin at 7:58 AM on December 2, 2012


Re: Lady Death, TBH I am far less bothered by this sort of thing when it's explicitly a comic to wank to. It's when you see that crap in the middle of an action sequence in the X-Men or whatever that it's bothersome.
posted by Artw at 8:04 AM on December 2, 2012 [1 favorite]


See also, with more Avengers.
posted by Drastic at 8:08 AM on December 2, 2012 [2 favorites]


This reminds me of "Men Ups"
posted by Mokusatsu at 8:23 AM on December 2, 2012


In accordance with fandom law, all discussions of hawkeye must include this link

And yes the current comics run is kind of amazing. Dude bro/average joe hawkeye is best hawkeye.
posted by The Whelk at 8:33 AM on December 2, 2012 [1 favorite]


I have been laughing at this all weekend. IT IS DELIGHTFUL.
posted by elizardbits at 8:40 AM on December 2, 2012


I'm mostly disturbed by the very detailed "shading" on Lady Death's crotch.

A couple of these made me laugh out loud. :)
posted by jillithd at 8:41 AM on December 2, 2012


Kind of disappointed that it wasn't a bunch of things like this.
posted by steveminutillo at 8:43 AM on December 2, 2012 [4 favorites]


I have this fantasy that someday I will want to read mainstream superhero comics again, and if I do, it'll be because of efforts like this. They may eventually pile up enough to change the way comics are written and drawn to not turn me off so much.
posted by immlass at 8:44 AM on December 2, 2012


I haven't bought a comic book since the early nineties, but the art (and my movie-based interest in Avengers) got me in to pick up a few copies of the new Hawkeye. Love the art with a passion, enjoying the average joe Hawkeye so very much, as well as rapidly becoming fond of Kate.
posted by PussKillian at 9:03 AM on December 2, 2012


Outstanding.
posted by rmd1023 at 9:21 AM on December 2, 2012


I have this fantasy that someday I will want to read mainstream superhero comics again, and if I do, it'll be because of efforts like this. They may eventually pile up enough to change the way comics are written and drawn to not turn me off so much.

That's both an optimistic and pessimistic view, in that a time when shitty comics don't exist will never come, but non-shitty comics exist right now.

Some tilts in the ratio would be welcome though.
posted by Artw at 9:28 AM on December 2, 2012 [2 favorites]


I was expecting it to be this Hawk-Eye, perhaps drawn by Paul Trevillion. Disappointed.
posted by Talkie Toaster at 10:15 AM on December 2, 2012 [1 favorite]


I love all of Noelle Stevenson/gingerhaze's Hawkeye doodles, but none more than 70s miniskirt Hawkeye.
posted by penguinliz at 10:54 AM on December 2, 2012 [1 favorite]


I was expecting Alan Alda.
posted by Cookiebastard at 11:00 AM on December 2, 2012 [8 favorites]


Cookiebastard: me too, we're getting too old for this shit...
posted by ouke at 11:09 AM on December 2, 2012 [1 favorite]


If this is a topic you're interested in -- check out Escher Girls.

And Artgerm (the artist of the Invisible Woman in OP's link) definitely draws so, so much cheesecake... but it's such good cheesecake. Deviantart link here.
posted by demagogue at 11:44 AM on December 2, 2012 [2 favorites]


My kids and I checked Cheetah and the Purrfect Crime out from the library the other day. The first page specifies that Cheetah is 5' 9" and weighs 120 lbs, and later on we learn that Catwoman is the same size as her. It's a book for children but the female characters are still all hips and boobs and weird poses (and seem to be missing most of their ribs).
posted by The corpse in the library at 11:54 AM on December 2, 2012 [1 favorite]


And Artgerm (the artist of the Invisible Woman in OP's link) definitely draws so, so much cheesecake... but it's such good cheesecake.

That is indeed some good pin-up art, but I'm still trying to figure out how Sue Richards' selectively-invisible-boobs trick is supposed to work in the intended sexy way. What would that even look like from the front? Two open wounds on her chest? *shudder*
posted by Strange Interlude at 11:56 AM on December 2, 2012 [1 favorite]


Re: Lady Death, TBH I am far less bothered by this sort of thing when it's explicitly a comic to wank to.

The sad thing is that you often can't tell that it's a comic to wank to. Not even the presence of camel toe is a reliable indicator.

As for the Lady Death image in particular - I remember when it popped up on Escher Girls, and the commentary was largely about her poor neck. I do think that most of the people who participate in these tumblrs recognize the difference between wank comics and 'general' comics, but sometimes the anatomy is so funny you've got to post it anyway.
posted by Kutsuwamushi at 12:41 PM on December 2, 2012


...but why Hawkeye? Why not Iron Man instead? (Suit optional)
posted by ymgve at 1:32 PM on December 2, 2012


I'm mostly disturbed by the very detailed "shading" on Lady Death's crotch.

Lady Death's crotch, indeed, the whole of Lady Death, has disturbed me for 20-odd years.

...but why Hawkeye? Why not Iron Man instead? (Suit optional)

Iron Man has an iron butt, that's why.
Hawkeye works out.
posted by Mezentian at 2:50 PM on December 2, 2012 [1 favorite]


...but why Hawkeye?

Because Hawkeye is ridiculous.

He's a carny who hangs around with a thunder god and a super-soldier. Sure, the movie asks us to believe that he started out as some sort of spy but I can more easily suspend disbelief about a Jekyll and Hyde rage monster than I can believe that the CIA would start recruiting based on archery skills. So yeah, a carny, wearing a purple man-kilt and armed with nothing but a bow and some boxing glove arrows. It's not like he's not self aware. He knows he's ridiculous.

More importantly, Hawkeye knows that they're all ridiculous. He saw a playboy genius billionaire inexplicably flying around in a gaudy tin suit and laughed and said to himself that's what I want to do with my life. Seriously, why does a thunder god spend so much time fighting a guy with a magic crowbar? No reason.

There are reasons why the Avengers keep a carnie around, even made him their leader from time to time. He's not useless. One time he saved the world by scamming the semi-omnipotent Grandmaster with a crooked game of three card monte. More than that, he loves being a superhero so much that it inspires the rest of them and keeps them going on a bad day. He reminds them that the only reason to be a superhero is that it is awesome, and that it's reason enough.

Part of the appeal of the character is that I can imagine him participating in The Hawkeye Initiative. "Wait, wait, I can twist my back around a bit further than that. Give me a sec to hike up my skirt a bit."
posted by justsomebodythatyouusedtoknow at 3:21 PM on December 2, 2012 [13 favorites]


Hawkeye's ridiculous costume makes it better, anyway. Also, Hawkeye-fighting-naked is rapidly becoming a theme in the comics.

The newest Hawkeye switched artists (from Aja to Pulido), which is a little disappointing, but Pulido is still solid, and the writing is still great. It's a lot less male-gazey than a lot of the other superhero titles, and they're all one-or-two parters.
posted by dinty_moore at 3:23 PM on December 2, 2012


Relevant to this conversation As justsomebodythatyouusedtoknow mentioned, Hawkeye would totally do the shooting upside down while twisting his butt in an improbable position thing, just because he could.

Black Widow wouldn't put up with any of that shit.
posted by dinty_moore at 3:28 PM on December 2, 2012 [2 favorites]


Why always both T and A at once? Is it a perception of the readership that they would sulk if they were denied both T and A, so have to have them served up with Ridiculous as well? Or is it the artists who cannot decide between carefully delineating T or A and says 'sod basic physics and biology, I'm having both'?
posted by grapefruitzzz at 3:52 PM on December 2, 2012 [1 favorite]


Certainly I would be very annoyed at any artist pulling that shit on one of my stories. Thankfully not something that's happened to me yet.
posted by Artw at 4:59 PM on December 2, 2012


I dunno, I'd like Dredd to do some T and A, balance out the load a bit.
posted by The Whelk at 5:08 PM on December 2, 2012 [1 favorite]


Dredd has neither T nor A.
And I suspect he would punch any artist out who drew him like that.
Now, Anderson.... oh....
posted by Mezentian at 5:57 PM on December 2, 2012


I reckon I'm the only person who showed up in this thread for MASH photos.
posted by Chaussette and the Pussy Cats at 9:38 PM on December 2, 2012 [1 favorite]


Butt Sparkles, is, I believe, Todger Bedazzled's boy sidekick.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 11:44 PM on December 2, 2012


Dredd DOES wear a tight leather jumpsuit, like, ALL of the time.

IIRC The Biz delivered lovingly rendered butts of both Judge Dredd and Batman in the crossover.
posted by Artw at 4:15 AM on December 3, 2012


Leatherstocking Tales. Anyone? No?

the CIA would start recruiting based on archery skills.

Mad Jack Churchill aside, there are still some outfits that use crossbows, etc. China (snow leopards) Spain (the MOE), Indian navy.

The Barnett Revelution XS is nice.
The chinese use Hortons (AFAIK) which are a pain to hunt with, but you can customize the grips (big height ranges in the Chinese army).

The U.S. has used the SAA International Ltd to throw grappling hooks, detect mines (with plastic trailwire, but this was replaced in common use by cans of silly string)

It fell out of fashion for a bit, because while they penetrate kevlar, you can get the same effect surfacing with silenced SMGs built for that purpose. Expensive, but the U.S. has money to burn in the defense industry.

But now they're making a comeback because you have listening technology that can detect the waveform of a shot and triangulate it. Dogs too in some cases for the low-tech.

So, nice and quiet (put cyanide or other respiratory poison on the tip and there's no scream) no muzzle flash, excellent blood loss and penetration for taking out guards up from being submerged, good shock if you're taking out dogs and such, modern composites make them light enough to lug around with a secondary weapon (SMG, or whatever). And no need for a bag.

And anything you'd hurt with an expensive subsonic round, you can hurt with a crossbow, so if I'm on a budget in a country with smaller SOF I'd never have made the switch to a system like the MP5 or TAR-21.
posted by Smedleyman at 9:43 AM on December 3, 2012 [4 favorites]


SECRET THING: I ain't going to say which one, but one of these is mine.
posted by FAMOUS MONSTER at 4:03 PM on December 4, 2012


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