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2014 FIFA World Cup: From the Round of 16 to the Winner
June 26, 2014 2:53 PM   Subscribe

With the completion of the group stages, three quarters of the matches in the 2014 FIFA World Cup have been played. Now, it's a straight round-by-round elimination for the remaining 16 teams in their quest to reach the final. There's been biting, alternative commentary, mood swings, (allegedly) sulky England players, exciting matches, the USA vs Ronaldo, Europeans taking early return flights, deep analysis, a fantasy league and many goals - but who will finally lift the trophy in Rio's Estádio do Maracanã on Sunday 13th July?

Those eight matches in the Round of 16 (times in US EDT):

Saturday 28th June:
(noon) Brazil v Chile
(4:00) Colombia v Uruguay

Sunday 29th June:
(noon) Netherlands v Mexico
(4:00) Costa Rica v Greece

Monday 30th June:
(noon) France v Nigeria
(4:00) Germany v Algeria

Tuesday 31st June:
(noon) Argentina v Switzerland
(4:00) Belgium v United States of America

Quarter-finals are played on the 4th/5th of July, semi-finals on the 8th/9th, and the 3rd place final on the 12th.

But what happens if any knockout match is tied at the end? According to the regulations:

"Extra time is to be played as the result of a draw at the end of normal playing time. It shall always consist of two periods of 15 minutes each, with an interval of five minutes at the end of normal playing time, but not between the two periods of extra time. If the score is still level after extra time, penalty kicks shall be taken to determine the winner."

Significant coverage is provided by the BBC, Guardian, Los Angeles Times, New York Times, CBS Sports and the Onion. Social media such as Twitter provides a platform for reactions and partisan commentary. For different perspectives, some maps that explain the World Cup.

Currently, bookmakers have Brazil, Germany and Argentina as the close favorites, while FiveThirtyEight currently have Brazil as favorite and Germany, Argentina and the Netherlands in with a shout.
posted by Wordshore (1838 comments total) 22 users marked this as a favorite

 
Metafilter: penalty kicks shall be taken to determine the winner.
posted by Fizz at 3:00 PM on June 26 [2 favorites]


...Tuesday 31st June?
posted by saturday_morning at 3:01 PM on June 26 [8 favorites]


It really is a Brand New Day!
posted by marienbad at 3:05 PM on June 26 [11 favorites]


FIFA have purchased and renamed July 1 for scheduling purposes; Canadians devastated
posted by saturday_morning at 3:08 PM on June 26 [33 favorites]


I really love the Guardian commentary, both the minute-by-minute versions and the podcasts that drop later in the evening.

Evidently if you are American and like the World Cup, some folks consider you a traitor. (Look her up yourself, I refuse to give her the attention she craves.) I, for one, welcome their hatred and will be at the bar watching the game with a beer.
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 3:08 PM on June 26


[We've been discussing how best to handle World Cup posts around here in this MeTa; there's a balance to strike between too many/not enough, but it seemed like a fresh post for the coming rounds would be ok.]
posted by LobsterMitten at 3:08 PM on June 26 [9 favorites]


... but who will finally lift the trophy in Rio's Estádio do Maracanã on Sunday 13th July?

I believe I can field this one. Through mathematical analysis no less.

Let's start by having a look when Argentina won the world championship:

ARG: 1978 + 1986

OK, and the Germans won in 1974 and in 1990, so:

GER: 1974 + 1990

Brazil won not only in 1970 and 1994, but also in 1962 and 2002:

BRA: 1970 + 1994
BRA: 1962 + 2002

And what happens when we add up those dates? They all add up to 3964!

ARG: 1978 + 1986 = 3964
GER: 1974 + 1990 = 3964
BRA: 1970 + 1994 = 3964
BRA: 1962 + 2002 = 3964

So now we can easily calculate the winner of 2014 ...

Winner: ? + 2014 = 3964

That solves for 1950: 1950 + 2014 = 3964

So the winner is the country that won in 1950, and that is (in spite of bite-related supsensions) ..... (drumroll) .... Uruguay!


Apologies to all who knew this already...
posted by sour cream at 3:08 PM on June 26 [23 favorites]




I love (hate) all of the dumb sports fan who are all like SO THE US LOST BUT STILL ADVANCES? LOL ONLY IN SOCCER AMIRITE!?

The San Antonio Spurs lost their final regular season game to the Houston Rockets. Of course, they proceeded to win the championship. NFL teams routinely lose their final regular season game but still make the playoffs.

BUT SOCCER IS DIFFERENT FOR SOME UNKNOWN REASON OR SOMETHING.
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 3:11 PM on June 26 [5 favorites]


Have you been composing this post while watching the football tonight? Great post, finally we have another thread for the World Cup - I think I must have made at least 50% of the comments in the Algeria thread, hopefully it won't be the case in this one.

Also, paging user 256* (name not number!)
posted by marienbad at 3:12 PM on June 26 [1 favorite]


I love (hate) all of the dumb sports fan who are all like...

The World Cup is regular season?
posted by goethean at 3:14 PM on June 26 [1 favorite]


The Americas seem awfully well represented this year.
posted by jamincan at 3:15 PM on June 26


UK Times for the Games:

Saturday 28 June: Brazil v Chile - 17:00 BST; Colombia v Uruguay - 21:00 BST.

Sunday 29 June: Netherlands v Mexico - 17:00 BST; Costa Rica v Greece - 21:00 BST.

Monday 30 June: France v Nigeria - 17:00 BST; Germany v Algeria - 21:00 BST.

Tuesday 1 July: Argentina v Switzerland - 17:00 BST; Belgium v USA - 21:00 BST.
posted by marienbad at 3:16 PM on June 26


The World Cup is regular season?

The group stage is not single-elimination, which apparently is the only type of tournament format that a large portion of American sports fans understand. So I was making -- an analogy!
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 3:17 PM on June 26 [7 favorites]




Saturday 28th June:
(noon) "Little Canary" v "The Red One"
(4:00) "The Coffee Growers" v "The Sky Blue One"

Sunday 29th June:
(noon) "Clockwork Orange" v "El Tri"
(4:00) "Los Ticos" v "Piratiko" ("The Pirate Ship")

Monday 30th June:
(noon) “The Blues” v “Super Eagles"
(4:00) “Nationalmannschaft" ("National Team") v “Les Fennecs" ("The Desert Foxes")

Tuesday 31st June:
(noon) "La Albicelestes" (“The White and Sky Blue”) v "The Schweizer Nati" ("The Swiss National Team")
(4:00) Red Devils v The Yanks

Les Fennecs FTW, but Les Bleus take the Cup.
posted by wensink at 3:21 PM on June 26


The World Cup is regular season?

The Group Stage sorta acts like one in a manner of speaking
posted by Hoopo at 3:28 PM on June 26 [1 favorite]


I'm glad the regulations were changed (cough...over 10 yrs ago...cough) for matches that are tied at the end. The golden goal rule sucked.
posted by travelwithcats at 3:32 PM on June 26


“Nationalmannschaft" ("National Team")
If it's all the same, I'm gonna keep pretending it's "National Man Shaft"
posted by evidenceofabsence at 3:36 PM on June 26 [7 favorites]


To everyone who said in previous threads that the US would not advance from group G or even score a goal: eat it.
posted by Tevin at 3:39 PM on June 26 [1 favorite]


We live in a country where hockey, basketball and baseball play best of seven in the playoffs and they can't understand how the US can advance after losing a game?

'MERICA, FUCK YEAH!!!!
posted by eriko at 3:40 PM on June 26 [1 favorite]


I really hope the rest of American professional sports sees all this, realizes that it's far more entertaining than any of our domestic leagues, and takes a minute to sit in a corner and feel bad about itself.

But that corner will probably be wallpapered with hundred dollar bills, so I'm doubting that will go as far as I'd prefer. :/
posted by scaryblackdeath at 3:40 PM on June 26


BUT SOCCER IS DIFFERENT FOR SOME UNKNOWN REASON OR SOMETHING.

A shocking amount of the anti-soccer sentiment in the US breaks down to the idea that soccer is, in an undefined vague way, a different thing that's completely unlike and inferior to major US sports. I think it's just unfamiliarity, to be honest. Almost anything that gets complained about is already a feature of some other sport that's so American we routinely compel our politicians to pretend to care about it. We just don't think of the existence of ties in football (RIP hockey ties) or low-scoring games in baseball as somehow an intrusion on our valuable mental space/bodily fluids.
posted by Copronymus at 3:50 PM on June 26


We live in a country where hockey, basketball and baseball play best of seven in the playoffs and they can't understand how the US can advance after losing a game?

Better not tell them about the pre-1986 tournaments, in which the best teams from the group stage would then play in a second group stage, from which the participants for the single-elimination semifinals would be chosen.
posted by hangashore at 3:51 PM on June 26


“Nationalmannschaft" ("National Team") v “Les Fennecs" ("The Desert Foxes")

How could anyone stand to score against, and thus make sad, fennecs.
posted by benito.strauss at 3:53 PM on June 26 [3 favorites]


Is it offensive to note that the nickname for the German national team is "the national team"?
posted by running order squabble fest at 3:54 PM on June 26 [2 favorites]


Has anybody written/etc about the probable consequences (in terms of Brazilian public order/politics/etc) of a Brazil win vs. loss in the final?
posted by LobsterMitten at 3:54 PM on June 26 [1 favorite]


Final? I think Brazil is out in the quarterfinals, if not dumped in R16. They've played badly and won the group from a combination of a weak group and a friendly ref.

It's either Germany or the Netherlands.
posted by eriko at 3:57 PM on June 26


Is it offensive to note that the nickname for the German national team is "the national team"?

Not if you're Swiss.
posted by wensink at 3:59 PM on June 26


LobsterMitten: Has anybody written/etc about the probable consequences (in terms of Brazilian public order/politics/etc) of a Brazil win vs. loss in the final?

I think the term you're looking for is "Maracanazo."
posted by hangashore at 4:03 PM on June 26 [1 favorite]


LM - I haven't seen anything, but on some past occasions when Brazil have been eliminated from the WC there have been riots in Brazil, so it may not be good. I haven't read anything, but tie that in to the current situation and clearly there could be a problem. The Brazillian authorities have drafted in an enormous number of extra police and security though.

On preview - what hangashire said,
posted by marienbad at 4:06 PM on June 26


I'm a big fan of the the Oranje (which made watching the NEDvAUS game interesting) but they are not the same side they were 4 years ago, and have a lot of younger players from the Eredivisie. Would love it if they could finally, finally, go all the way and lift the trophy, but I'm not super confidant. A lot will come down to Robben and Van Persie staying healthy/fit and slotting the goals.
posted by Hello, I'm David McGahan at 4:06 PM on June 26


Well, and not kicking people in the chest.
posted by eriko at 4:10 PM on June 26 [9 favorites]


With Ireland nowhere near the finals I was supporting Bosnia, and am sad to see them knocked out. I don't know who to pull for now. I got Argentina in the office pool but .... who wants to support a favourite? I wouldn't mind seeing Holland win but I think it's unlikely. Hopefully there are a few twists yet.
posted by jamesonandwater at 4:13 PM on June 26


Nate Silver's model used to say the U.S. had less than a 1% chance of winning the World Cup. I'm proud to say we are now at 1%! USA! USA!
posted by Area Man at 4:16 PM on June 26 [5 favorites]


In the last Euro, Ireland made it in. The was just after the economies of Europe went to hell, and Germany demanded a bunch of austerity.

My favorite pic was a bunch of Irish fans at an airport holding a sign that said "ANGELA MERKEL THINKS WE'RE WORKING."

Good on you, Ireland. Good on you.
posted by eriko at 4:18 PM on June 26 [18 favorites]




I'm rooting for Costa Rica. It's been wonderful seeing this team come out of nowhere to win their group, and I hope they continue this great run they're on.
posted by Grimgrin at 4:37 PM on June 26 [4 favorites]


@fifteen schnitzengruben Thanks for the heads-up on The Guardian podcasts. Downloading 'em now.

@jamesonandwater @eriko If you have not yet season Episode 1, Season 2 of Moone Boy ("Boylé, Boylé, Boylé"), I can't recommend it enough. Plot: Martin is appalled when his dad takes the family on holiday during the 1990 World Cup, so he tries to hitch-hike back to Boyle to watch a vital match on home turf. It streams for free on Hulu.
posted by wensink at 4:44 PM on June 26


Italia '90 has a special place in the heart and culture of Ireland. See also The Van (from the writer of The Commitments) which is also set during that summer.
posted by TwoWordReview at 5:01 PM on June 26 [1 favorite]


A shocking amount of the anti-soccer sentiment in the US breaks down to the idea that soccer is, in an undefined vague way, a different thing that's completely unlike and inferior to major US sports. I think it's just unfamiliarity, to be honest. Almost anything that gets complained about is already a feature of some other sport that's so American we routinely compel our politicians to pretend to care about it. We just don't think of the existence of ties in football (RIP hockey ties) or low-scoring games in baseball as somehow an intrusion on our valuable mental space/bodily fluids.

Plus the NCAA is pretty damn close to FIFA for sheer inanity.
posted by srboisvert at 5:18 PM on June 26 [2 favorites]


I find the phrase "soccer is boring" to be an extremely succinct and effective benchmark of an individual's personality and values.

I will never forget the moment during the 2006 England-Portugal match when one of my in-laws uttered the phrase just as the shoot out began.
posted by Dr. Zira at 5:22 PM on June 26 [2 favorites]


A penalty shoot out involving England is always boring, because you already know exactly who will win.
posted by dng at 5:25 PM on June 26 [9 favorites]


A fair point.
posted by Dr. Zira at 5:31 PM on June 26


You know, it's okay for people not to like everything you like and it doesn't have to be some indictment of their personality or beliefs. Not everything has to be some cultural signifier.
posted by Benjy at 5:40 PM on June 26 [1 favorite]


Has anybody written/etc about the probable consequences (in terms of Brazilian public order/politics/etc) of a Brazil win vs. loss in the final?
Brazil getting knocked out by Uruguay would probably involve the cancellation of the tournament due to civil unrest.

Brazil beating Uruguay and Argentina on the way to lifting the cup means Thiago Silva's elevation to Emperor.
posted by fullerine at 5:41 PM on June 26 [1 favorite]


You know, it's okay for people not to like everything you like and it doesn't have to be some indictment of their personality or beliefs. Not everything has to be some cultural signifier.

Yeah, that's kind of why soccer fans are pissed.
posted by Celsius1414 at 6:06 PM on June 26 [3 favorites]


US has a chance (?) against gallant little Belgium, but then they would be summarily executed by Jovian Messi. I'm looking forward to France/Germany and hope Costa Rica embarrasses the Dutch.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 6:45 PM on June 26


Benjy: "You know, it's okay for people not to like everything you like and it doesn't have to be some indictment of their personality or beliefs. Not everything has to be some cultural signifier."

For the record, I did not state that the statement "soccer is boring" is an indicator of personality or values that warrant condemnation. What I am saying is that in my experience, here in the US, where the game is not as much a part of our cultural fabric, those who proclaim that "soccer is boring" as opposed to "I find this match boring" or "I don't like soccer" or "I don't understand soccer" or "I don't understand how World Cup works*" provide me with some data points that are very useful indicators of how to relate to and communicate with those individuals, especially if I already know their preferences regarding American football.

*E.g., Today's FB/Twitter posts of "Hurrah! We lost. But we advance? That's crazy!"

posted by Dr. Zira at 7:03 PM on June 26


So: was the US somewhat better than expected, or are the Germans so good & so confident that they engineered the group to eliminate the strongest threat (Portugal) by running up the score in their match with Portugal and sandbagging against the US? (disclaimer: I sort of know most of the rules, but I couldn't tell a good play from a dumb one when watching a soccer match)
posted by mr vino at 7:27 PM on June 26


Yeah, I've seen a few of the hurf-durf "lose but advance, all the kids get a trophy" comments on facebook, especially from hockey fan friends, and I pointed out that it works exactly the same way in group play of the Olympic hockey tournament, not to mention that I know damn well that all their kids got participation trophies in peewee hockey. *Crickets*
posted by gimli at 7:40 PM on June 26


So far, the US has shown huge flaws in skill (passing, retention) but huge strengths in tenacity. The Germans, on the other hand, have the skill, a good chunk of the tenacity, but most of all the Belief. They knew Portugal would crumble the moment they went 2 up. European hubris showed up against a really good Ghana, which was corrected via a win over the US.

I think that the US has more in their tank than Belgium and stands a shot at beating them, but no chance against Argentina. I'm calling an escape from the groups, especially a Group of Death, as a win.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 7:51 PM on June 26 [3 favorites]


There have been enough surprises so far to where I don't know what to expect. I think France is overrated. Argentina has been underwhelming, though not as much so as Brazil. I really hope the Dutch and Germans get destroyed. Columbia has been a joy to watch--here's hoping they continue to shine.
posted by persona au gratin at 8:01 PM on June 26 [1 favorite]


Belgium hasn't played very well but the from a pure talent perspective they are better than the US at every position including goalie.
posted by JPD at 8:21 PM on June 26


To me, the most entertaining teams so far have been Costa Rica and Colombia. The USA stumbled into a win against Ghana, really should have beat Portugal, and held Germany to only one goal on an extremely wet pitch.

Brazil looks like Neymar and the 10 dwarves. Argentina is better, but not overwhelming. Messi is playing like a god.

France is playing better than expected. Mexico's keeper is the best in the tournament so far, not just for his performance in the tie against Brazil.

Greece looks like they hope to win 1-0 in tight defensive battles. Uruguay is not the same without the Cannibal.
posted by blob at 8:42 PM on June 26


Unfortunately, growing interest in soccer is a sign of moral decay, according to Ann Coulter. Among its more horrifying points: no serious sport is co-ed, even during kindergarten; there's not enough chance of athletes being humiliated or horribly injured; you can't make use of humanity's crowning achievement, opposable thumbs; it's just like the metric system and, by extension, the guillotine.

I know she's just a professional troll, but still.
posted by jeather at 9:23 PM on June 26


Unfortunately, growing interest in soccer is a sign of moral decay, according to Ann Coulter.

Someone should tell her that this exactly what communists think of the game. That should make her change her mind in a heartbeat.
posted by daniel_charms at 11:03 PM on June 26


I enjoyed the Coulter piece - it could easily have been circulated as something hilarious from the Onion, and everyone would have loved it. I just read it in that voice.
posted by modernnomad at 11:51 PM on June 26 [2 favorites]


A shocking amount of the anti-soccer sentiment in the US breaks down to the idea that soccer is, in an undefined vague way, a different thing that's completely unlike and inferior to major US sports. I think it's just unfamiliarity, to be honest.

No, the problem you have in the US is that you have a virulent strain of know-nothing rightwing culture warism, which endlessly divides any and all cultural activities in good, clean American ones and bad, multicultural, unamerican ones. Football is of course the ultimate expression of everything that's foreign and liberal and wussy, so is in for special hatred.
posted by MartinWisse at 12:00 AM on June 27 [5 favorites]


Unfortunately, growing interest in Ann Coulter is a sign of moral decay, according to soccer.

FTFY
posted by chavenet at 12:07 AM on June 27 [10 favorites]


Considering how cut-throat capitalist European soccer leagues are and how oh so very communist the NFL is when it comes to revenue sharing, ensuring parity between teams and sponging off tax payers, you would think that supporting Manchester City would be a point of pride for the the hard Right in the USA.
posted by PenDevil at 12:40 AM on June 27 [2 favorites]


The comments on the Coulter piece are worth reading for once. The back and forth whether or not her words were satire lends a surreal air.
posted by telstar at 2:02 AM on June 27


persona au gratin - I agree with everything you say except about France - one iffy game against Ecuador, but apart from that they have looked good. And sometimes, it can take playing poorly, not taking chances and not losing to move forwards, like they have to work it out of their system and will now get better and better. Watch them get slaughtered in the next round now. So you got a favourite, but it is only 95% favourite!

blob - For a very quick summary, that's pretty good.
posted by marienbad at 2:37 AM on June 27


Also, LFC closing in on Belgium's excellent young striker, Divock Origi! Yes! Finally some good news. Ciao Luis.
posted by marienbad at 2:47 AM on June 27


Have they got him in for his physical and dental molds yet?
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 4:31 AM on June 27 [1 favorite]


Luis is going nowhere, the 4 month ban will be reduced.
They've even roped Chiellini into the PR campaign.
posted by fullerine at 5:21 AM on June 27


it's just like the metric system and, by extension, the guillotine.

I enjoyed her little digression into the metric system and how all the standard measurements make more sense because they are the dimensions of a some prototypical man's body. It had never occurred to me that the list of things Ann Coulter doesn't know would be so long as to include "people have different thumb sizes," but apparently it is. Fascinating!
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 6:04 AM on June 27 [3 favorites]


wensink: "“Nationalmannschaft" ("National Team")"
Here in Germany we call them Die Nationalelf ("The National Eleven"). Nationalmannschaft is not a nickname, it literally means national team.
posted by brokkr at 6:20 AM on June 27 [1 favorite]


@brokkr Entschuldigung. I pulled the names from this Mental Floss piece; a site where the fact checking is usually quite good.
posted by wensink at 6:34 AM on June 27


Thiago Silva's elevation to Emperor

Prince Pedro Carlos of Orléans-Braganza would like a word with you on that.
posted by winna at 6:38 AM on June 27


I get the humour of "National man shaft" but I don't get the humour of "The National team". I mean it's about as flat as "Team USA" or something. I always thought it was just Germany stodginess.
Also football/soccer bears some similarity to the tactical subtlety of basketball where if you don't know what you're seeing it's just a bunch of tall guys running around getting like a thousand points each.
posted by From Bklyn at 6:41 AM on June 27


wensink: "I pulled the names from this Mental Floss piece; a site where the fact checking is usually quite good."
I'm sure the Belgians are very happy about that article too.
"Rote teufel" if you're in Germany, "Rode Duivels" if you're speaking Dutch, or "Diables Rouges," according to the French.
Or, you know, "Rote Teufel" if you're a German-speaking Belgian, "Rode Duivels" if you're a Flemish-speaking Belgian, or "Diables Rouges" if you're a French-speaking Belgian.

(The German national team is also sometimes referred to as Jogi's Jungs, by the way.)
posted by brokkr at 6:43 AM on June 27 [2 favorites]


via Wiki "In Germany, the team is typically simply referred to as the Nationalmannschaft (national team), DFB-Elf (DFB eleven), DFB-Auswahl (DFB selection) or Nationalelf (national eleven), whereas in foreign media, they are regularly simply described as (Die) Mannschaft (literally meaning "The Team"). The expression Die Adler (The Eagles) is also used."
posted by wensink at 6:43 AM on June 27


Yeah, okay, I'll just defer to Wikipedia instead of the deluge of media I'm exposed to here.
posted by brokkr at 6:45 AM on June 27 [1 favorite]


Also, LFC closing in on Belgium's excellent young striker, Divock Origi! Yes! Finally some good news. Ciao Luis.

Do you think? I mean, this is kind of Stan Collymore all over again, isn't it? But much, much more so?

His value on the transfer market is probably as low as it's been for a while, and at the same time he's still pretty much the best goalscoring forward in the EPL, and arguably the world. The biting stuff is... a distraction? Problematic? Hard to schedule for? But see the discussion about dog-fighting (or causing death by dangerous driving, or firing a flare gun into the disabled-accessible bathroom of a pizza restaurant). A good footballer can be forgiven a lot.
posted by running order squabble fest at 6:52 AM on June 27


Here in Germany we call them Die Nationalelf ("The National Eleven").

This is literally the first time I've ever heard this. Interesting.
posted by josher71 at 6:54 AM on June 27


Here is a question I had from the USA-Germany match: do the Germans have another national anthem they sing when its just them? That one sounded pretty tame.
posted by shothotbot at 7:06 AM on June 27


Cote D'Ivoire & Ghana should have made it to knock-out stage at least.

Greece cheated that penalty kick and should be ashamed.

No one predicted Algeria.
posted by St. Peepsburg at 7:19 AM on June 27


As far I know there's only one German national anthem. My understanding is that they stopped singing the first two stanzas after World War II (the first is the one that begins "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles"), but it's the same song.

The tune is also used in other contexts, including the English hymn "Glorious Things of Thee are Spoken" which is all I could hear when they played the anthem.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 7:21 AM on June 27


I enjoyed her little digression into the metric system and how all the standard measurements make more sense because they are the dimensions of a some prototypical man's body.

Not sure what men where around when they specified the "foot" but they must have worn size 15 (US) shoes.
posted by octothorpe at 7:28 AM on June 27


The USA stumbled into a win against Ghana, really should have beat Portugal, and held Germany to only one goal on an extremely wet pitch.

Though Germany had no problem controlling the ball. The only real attack that we had that actually made Germany defend hard was in extra time. It was a quality attack, and show's that the US can go up against the best, but you're not winning if you can only attack for three minutes. The problem with the wet is it slows things down, and the US attack is based on speed -- you really saw that early on against Portugal, where the US was getting runs in and the Portuguese defenders simply couldn't keep up. The US has play on three slow pitches, all in weather that either kept things slow or you had to slow down to avoid death by heat stroke.

US players who've done very well: Jermaine Jones has been a wonder, and while his goal isn't the best goal of the tournament so far that I've seen, I'd give it #3 (#2 is Tim Cahill's, #2 is RvP's header against Spain.) Kyle Beckerman, who everyone thought would be a disaster, has played reasonably well. Other than his first game, DeMarcus Beasley has been very good.

Disappointments (not their fault.) Dempsey has been slow because, well, he broke his nose. Altidore out from injury. Besler has been slow because of a tweaked thigh. 75% of CR7 is a hell of a player, 75% of Matt Besler is not. Jermaine Jones has apparently also broken his nose. The injury factor has hit the US hard.

Disappointing: The single most disappointing player, and he's the reason the USMNT looks so disorganized, is Michael Bradley. He was supposed to be the guy who leads the diamond, controls balls to the midfield and feed them to Dempsey and Altidore.

What he's done is lose possession repeatedly. I don't fault him for the Portugal loss. Yes, he lost possession there too, but that was after 95' of play in horrible hot-and-humid conditions, and he lost it 65 yards from the goal, and there were six players behind him, and I'm surprised he didn't puke in the after-game interview.

But he's done that through three games. One bad game? Everyone has them. Look at Beasley against Ghana, esp. that first half. But three?

Something's wrong, and I honestly don't think we have a chance against a 10 man Belgium, much less a full side, with Bradley as the key midfielder. I don't know why he's playing so badly, but he is, and I really think Klinsmann should sit him against Belgium. I know we don't have a better midfielder than Bradley playing well, but I know we have a bunch of them who will, at worst, play as badly as he's playing now, and most likely will play better -- unless Kilnsmann and Bradley can identify why Bradley is playing so poorly.
posted by eriko at 8:00 AM on June 27 [11 favorites]


Nice write up, eriko.
posted by josher71 at 8:02 AM on June 27 [1 favorite]


mr vino: So: was the US somewhat better than expected, or are the Germans so good & so confident that they engineered the group to eliminate the strongest threat (Portugal) by running up the score in their match with Portugal and sandbagging against the US?

Germany were highly motivated in that first game, against Portugal; they didn't know how the rest of the group would turn out and wanted to get into a good position.

Germany were not similarly motivated against the United States; there was almost no way they were going to not advance. They did not have to play aggressively and risk getting injured or cards and having players lose eligibility for the next match.
posted by mountmccabe at 8:02 AM on June 27 [1 favorite]


Will Altidore be back for the Belgium game?
posted by shothotbot at 8:04 AM on June 27


Everything I've read has listed him as "day-to-day."
posted by troika at 8:07 AM on June 27


Just posted on the Twitter feed of Sports Illustrated's Grant Wahl: Jozy Altidore jogging at training now

and USA Today's Kelly Whiteside:
Beautiful day of training at Paulo FC, Jozy Altidore jogging around field at a good clip, no obvious signs of an issue
posted by wensink at 8:21 AM on June 27


On the US-vs.-soccer front: soccer was actually experiencing growing popularity in the '20s (thanks mainly to immigrants, of course, but reg'lar Amuricans were getting interested), but an ill-timed organizational squabble messed things up, and then the Great Depression killed it off. I learned that from the best history of any sport I've read, The Ball is Round: A Global History of Soccer by David Goldblatt.

> But what happens if any knockout match is tied at the end?

An excellent excuse to quote this great story from Goldblatt!
22 June 1922
1.FC Nürnberg 2 Hamburger SV 2
Berlin

A moment of supreme pleasure for the inveterate numerologists and mathematical seers among football fans. It's the German national championship final, Nuremberg against Hamburg, it's 22 June 1922 and it's 2-2 at 90 minutes. There are no provisions for anything other than extra time. The teams played on, players coming and going from the pitch as exhaustion and injuries mounted. Nuremberg's Anton Kugler lost five teeth and kept going. 'They were staggering across the pitch near a complete breakdown. Nobody had any strength left for a shot on goal, but nobody was willing to give up either.' In near darkness, the referee Dr Paco Bauwens calls time after three hours and ten minutes.

The authorities stage a replay in Leipzig and after 90 minutes it's 1-1. The only imbalance after 400 minutes is that Nuremberg's Boss has been sent off, it's eleven against ten. Extra time begins and Nuremberg are down to nine as Kugler retires. Still 1-1. Then Nuremberg are down to eight as Trag is sent off for a spiteful foul. Still 1-1 at half-time in extra time. Nuremberg's Luitpold Popp collapses and they are down to seven. The referee abandons the match and the lawyers step in. Hamburg claim victory, Nuremberg argue that Popp could have recovered in time to continue. The DFB give the cup to Hamburg on the condition they renounce it; which grudgingly they do.
Also, I really, really don't want to see the US vs. Argentina; my heart would be torn. Fortunately (from that perspective), the US will almost certainly be knocked out before that.
posted by languagehat at 8:24 AM on June 27 [1 favorite]


Yeah - Altidore may not score much for a striker, and I confess to not being very familiar with him, but he seemed on the evidence to be able to do something the rest of the US team struggle with, which is to hold the ball - hold off challenges and lay it off.

Without him, and with Bradley off form, the US attack seems to rely too often on an increasingly tired and frustrated Clint Dempsey pumping his legs like a maniac to get onto balls played along the edge of the pitch, and then turning to cut the ball back to Clint Demps-ah.

What Klinsmann does with Bradley is an interesting question. I'd like to see Mix Diskerud in the mix, because he's called Mix Diskerud.

(Whisper it, but would a deep-lying Landon Donovan have been an interesting option to have?)
posted by running order squabble fest at 8:29 AM on June 27 [1 favorite]


regarding Bradley, this delightful all-caps SBNation piece describes it as: OUR STAR MIDFIELDER HAS CAUGHT THE DREADED AMAZONIAN WOODFOOT VIRUS, AND HAS SHOWN NO SIGNS OF RECOVERY.
posted by troika at 8:29 AM on June 27


if you are familiar with Alabama call in radio and college football this comment from that post is absolute gold

PAWWL, FOLKS KEP SAYING WE DIDN'T WIN OUR GROUP...
BUT IT WAS THE TUFFIST GROUP IN THA HOLE WORLD, PAWWWL. And we wuz ready cause these other teams ain’t tested WEEK IN AND WEEK OUT in the CON CA CAFF like us, PAWWL.

And all I’m sayin is, you know them boys from Brazil and France, yeah they won ther groups, but it’s NOT LIKE THEY WON ALL THERE GAMES EITHER, PAWWWL. So for us to lose so close to such a good team today, PAWWWL, I say it’s the best loss anyone’s got. So lets just tell it like it is and skip the arguin’: WE DESERVE A REMATCH WITH GERMANY IN THA FINAL, PAWWL.

And you give Corch Klinsmann four days to prepare, AIN’T NOBODY GONNA BEAT HIM TWICE IN A ROW!!!

I’LL HANG UP AND LISSEN!


Its the "CON CA CAFF" that kills me
posted by JPD at 8:32 AM on June 27 [5 favorites]


Considering how cut-throat capitalist European soccer leagues are and how oh so very communist the NFL yt is when it comes to revenue sharing, ensuring parity between teams and sponging off tax payers, you would think that supporting Manchester City would be a point of pride for the the hard Right in the USA.

Actually, I think the European Leagues would love to have a salary cap. (They already do have revenue sharing.) The fact that most of our league sports represent the world's best at that sport (NFL/MLB/NBA certainly, NHL arguably) means that well, if you don't like the salary in the US, there's nowhere else to go. If you want the best money in US Football, you play in the NFL, not the CFL. You want the best in baseball, you play MLB, not NPB. You wan the best money in Hockey, it's the NHL, not the KHL. You want the best in Basketball, you play in the NBA, not the EuroLeague leagues.

But in soccer? You want the best? You can play in the EPL, the Budesliga, Series A, and so forth. If an top Europe league puts in a salary cap, the player will just move to the next one.

The one US top level league that isn't the world's best at its sport and has a salary cap is MLS. And the result? Well, the best US players don't play for the MLS, unless they're brought in under the Designated Player rule. They go to Europe, where the leagues don't have caps and they can make more money. But the MLS is still a very young league with room to fail (NASL lasted 16 years before folding…) and they consider stability far more important. As the MLS revenues increase, the salary cap will change, but I just don't see MLS just waiving the cap, and that means that very few of the best players will play in MLS, and many of them will do so at the end of their careers.

The European leagues don't want that, thus, they won't cap.
posted by eriko at 8:36 AM on June 27


The EU has ruled that a Cap would be illegal. Caps are only legal in the US because there are collectively bargained. There isn't a labor entity like that in Europe.

There is even a chance that the EU will overturn Financial Fair Play regs.

Revenue sharing is TV driven - but its not revenue sharing as we see it in the US.

This has very little to do with the different leagues. If caps were legal it might even hasten the creation of a full time international top-tier.

The best players also don't play for the MLS because its not seen as a top league - its not like there is a huge outflow of players from MLS to the Championship (widely acknowledge as a very similar league quality wise where average salaries are about $300k).

If money was all that players cared about the UAE would have one hell of a league.
posted by JPD at 8:44 AM on June 27


Isn't MLS structured so that all players are actually employed by the league and not by the individual teams?
posted by Area Man at 9:13 AM on June 27


yes
posted by JPD at 9:21 AM on June 27


Isn't MLS structured so that all players are actually employed by the league and not by the individual teams?

Yes. In case of the Designated Player, the contract is still with the league, but the league pays $400,000 of the salary of the first DP, and $250,000 of the second, the rest is payed by the club. (Note: Numbers may have changed, that was a couple of years ago.) The clubs themselves are, in fact, owned by the league. You don't buy a club. You invest in MLS as a whole and are given operational rights over a club.

The main reason for this was a quiet one that MLS didn't want to use. It enables them to fold a club quickly and just move the players to other clubs. This came in handy -- hell, it saved the league -- when they realized they'd over expanded and folded the two Florida clubs in 2002.

The player's did sue saying this was an unfair restraint of trade and a monopoly, but lost. The key here was that there are other leagues that the players can play for, many of which pay better, so unlike the NFL/MLB/NBA, where there's nowhere to go but down, there was plenty of upside for a non-MLS player.
posted by eriko at 9:33 AM on June 27


One interesting thing for USMNT (and others), is that yellow cards will not be wiped until after the quarter-finals, rather than after the group stages, and the yellows are mounting up now:
"In previous World Cups that wouldn’t be an issue, as cards were wiped after the group stage, but for this World Cup the yellow cards will not be wiped until after the quarter-finals. It means that nobody is going to miss the final through a suspension, but it also means that a couple of key players are on a tightrope going into the game against Belgium.

Gonzalez and Kyle Beckerman picked up yellows against Germany, to add to Jermaine Jones’ caution against Portugal. The only bright side for the central-midfield trio was that Michael Bradley escaped a fairly obvious yellow for a lunging tackle on Thomas Müller just before half-time."
[Guardian: Five things the USA learned from their defeat by Germany]

Could be tricky for one or two teams going forwards if they have to drop players due to suspensions.

So how's everyone's team looking for the next round? Carded and injury laden, or rocking' and ready. Don't even bother asking about my team.
posted by marienbad at 10:02 AM on June 27


Also eriko - in your analysis post upthread, you have given both goals second place!
posted by marienbad at 10:03 AM on June 27


"(Whisper it, but would a deep-lying Landon Donovan have been an interesting option to have?)"
posted by running order squabble fest

Trust me, building a team around an alleged star player who appears past it does not work. I should know: I'm English.
posted by marienbad at 10:09 AM on June 27 [7 favorites]


Trust me, building a team around an alleged star player who appears past it does not work. I should know: I'm English.

Don't think it would have been built around him but I also think he would have been a great super sub.
posted by josher71 at 10:14 AM on June 27


He was out of shape and didn't want to practice as much as the other players on the team (or so I heard). I think we've seen there are enough talented, hungry players to choose from who were ready to go full tilt.
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 10:18 AM on June 27


Has Julian Green played at all yet, by the way?
posted by josher71 at 10:22 AM on June 27


No, Green hasn't played yet. Could have been subbed the other night when the two guys collided but they were ok to carry on.
posted by marienbad at 10:32 AM on June 27


via @GrantWahl: Klinsmann on Altidore's chances of playing vs #BEL: "We are very optimistic. Every day is a big step forward for him."

Subterfuge?
posted by wensink at 10:33 AM on June 27


Getting forward in attack is honestly the only thing the US has done better than expected.

The defense has mostly played to low expectations, the midfield is probably worse than expected. Bradley's been terrible, but Jones has massively outperformed.

Donovan doesn't really solve any problems even if he were fit and willing to play as a sub.
posted by JPD at 10:38 AM on June 27


josher71 - Yeah, I was kinda making a joke about the England team in my earlier comment. I don't think, as you say, the team would be built around him, it is more accomodating an out of shape player at the expense of other better players.

Zonal Marking on the USA v Germany game.
posted by marienbad at 10:38 AM on June 27


I don't think, as you say, the team would be built around him, it is more accomodating an out of shape player at the expense of other better players.

Ah, the Golden Age of English football, when a fractured metatarsal seemed to be a golden ticket for consideration for the national team...
posted by running order squabble fest at 10:58 AM on June 27 [1 favorite]


Greece cheated that penalty kick and should be ashamed.

If you look at slow-motion gifs (there were two angles) you can see it was a penalty after all. Greece should be happy and focus on the next game.
posted by ersatz at 11:45 AM on June 27


Just posted on the Twitter feed of Sports Illustrated's Grant Wahl: Jozy Altidore jogging at training now

That's great news. Both for my US friends, and because I'm a Sunderland supporter, and it'll be great to see him move at as rapid a pace as a jog.
posted by reynir at 12:43 PM on June 27 [1 favorite]


If money was all that players cared about the UAE would have one hell of a league.
posted by JPD


One of the weirder things about the Qatar World Cup is that the host's team automatically get in... but does Qatar even have a team? Have they ever qualified? I have been trying to figure out how this would work.
posted by rosswald at 1:21 PM on June 27


Here is the wikipedia article on Qatar's men's team (wikipedia also has an article on the women's team.) The men's team has never qualified for a World Cup. They have made it to the quarterfinals of the Asian Cup twice.
posted by Area Man at 1:45 PM on June 27 [1 favorite]


when the US was given the '94 cup they hadn't qualified in decades, although they did manage to qualify in '90

(not defending the Qatar thing, just saying its not unprecedented for a bad team to be the host)
posted by JPD at 2:20 PM on June 27 [1 favorite]


"Don't think it would have been built around him but I also think he would have been a great super sub."

Landon is not supersub type of player. He works best by picking up on the rhythm of the game and exploded at the right times. When you're a sub you just don't have that kind of opportunity.

So far as Bradley goes ... he's not performed as well as he has in the past but he has done well under the circumstances.

What circumstances? Well, let's consider Ghana. In the games leading up to the WC Jurgen used Altidore and Dempsey up top. Bradley knew how to play with them, knew their tendencies and was probably planning on using Altidore as a key outlet. So we see Bradley making this goofy passes in the final third against Ghana and I think it's because he wasn't able to adjust to Aron Johanson not being Jozy. Of course, it would be great if he could account for that on the fly and make magic out of it but - tactically, they're just very different and Bradley is smart enough to not play a ball to Johanson that he would have played to Altidore. So he thinks an extra second and boom - turnover.

Other circumstance is the formation we've used in the last few games. Bradley's key in qualifying was sitting deep, reading the field, and picking good opportunities to forward with the attack and make key passes from further back. With Jones and Beckerman occupying the space he played during most of qualifying, he's been pushed up much further than maybe he has been comfortable. So again, you have a situation where he's accustomed to playing a certain way and the mistakes he makes (mostly poor passes, IIRC) make sense if you take this displaced positioning into account.

Furthermore, you don't sit Bradley. You just don't. Even in poor form he is our engine. Mix is a very talented player but he's not a Bradley replacement and we can't change the rest of our lineup to suit him. Even with (relatively) poor passing he still does a great job directing passes and gumming up the midfield, a role I don't think Mix could fill. Bradley is the tip of an attacking diamond but his role is still primarily defensive.

So how do we stack up against Belgium? Pretty well. We've done a good job pushing our opponents to the flanks and keeping them from running up the gut Hazard is very good at drifting into the weird pockets of space in the middle and creating something under pressure and they've looked good at completing when they get good chances (thinking of that crazy Fellaini header in the opening match). A win is possible, but fitness is a concern. Mentally, I think this US team is in it to win. I don't get the same sense of 'Well that was good, let's go!" that I've seen in past teams.

It'll be a good game either way and I won't be disappointed with a loss. Belgium are good.
posted by Tevin at 2:51 PM on June 27 [3 favorites]


I don't get the bench Bradley crowd at all. Its not like we have anyone else on the team remotely capable of playing his role. Regardless of why you think he's having a bad tourney.

Belgium has looked like crap except for a few flashes of their true talent level for a few minutes a game. That's probably enough for them to beat the US. But probably not to live up to their billing as a viable threat to make the semis.
posted by JPD at 3:04 PM on June 27


I was surprised by the sheer number of people who turned out yesterday in Brussels to watch the Belgium game. Then again supporters won't be playing on the pitch.
posted by ersatz at 3:12 PM on June 27


USA vs. Belgium: If the World Cup were played in beer

I can't bring myself to actually read the article. Don't all right-thinking people know Belgium would crush the U.S. if the World Cup were a beer competition?
posted by Area Man at 4:00 PM on June 27 [1 favorite]


If Zombie Dust is in form and we keep it it tight at the back...
posted by running order squabble fest at 4:13 PM on June 27


I can't bring myself to actually read the article. Don't all right-thinking people know Belgium would crush the U.S. if the World Cup were a beer competition?


Considering that Anheuser-Busch is now owned by a Belgian company, that's a tough call to make.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 7:04 PM on June 27 [1 favorite]


Area Man: I can't bring myself to actually read the article. Don't all right-thinking people know Belgium would crush the U.S. if the World Cup were a beer competition?

Read the article. And stop thinking of American beer as Anheuser-Busch/Coors pisswater. You've got scads of world-class regional/micro/craft stuff all around you - go enjoy the hell out of it and cheer your lungs out on Tuesday. You've got plenty to be proud of - on the pitch and on tap.

(Yeah, bitter Canuck here - no Molson/Labatts swill for me, but no World Cup football for us for the forseeable future.)
posted by hangashore at 9:13 PM on June 27 [1 favorite]




Why do USA football supporters call their team "USMNT" instead of just "USA"? They often do the same in Canada (Cdn MNT),

(I know what USMNT stands for, I'm just wondering why it used - I know in ice hockey those same supporters don't use it during international tournaments, they call their teams "Team USA" or "Team Canada").
posted by modernnomad at 11:37 PM on June 27


Because there are a few Team USAs that get talked about (hockey, basketball, etc) and outside World Cup time it's an easy way to identify which sportingball squad you're referring to.

Also US Mutant Ninja Turtles can provide some helpfully hilarious mental imagery like.
posted by Tevin at 12:12 AM on June 28 [1 favorite]


And so here we are at the round of 16. Elimination matches, after extra time and then penalties if necessary.

First, up, it's Brazil vs Chile. The BBC provides team news, a match preview and some match facts, while Luiz Felipe Scolari admits to Brazil nerves.
posted by Wordshore at 1:09 AM on June 28


nthing the USMNT thing. Why don't they just call themselves America FC, like my team is England FC, and then there is France FC and Germany FC. It is so easy, but the USA has to be different.

Predictions for todays games anyone? WIll Brasil bottle it? Will Fred actually turn into a striker? Will Hulk actually smash the ball into the net, will Neymar fall over? And the other game features Uruguay! How will they cope against Columbia without Mr Suarez?* And what about that Colombia side? Have they been great or what? Cuadrado is one of my players of the tournament. I would love to see him at Anfield next season, alongside Origi (and lets get Lukaku too, just for fun). So who have you seen at the World Cup that you would like your team to sign?

Agree somewhat with the Bradley issue - haven't seen enough games to have a solid impression, but he has made one or 2 mistakes, in difficult games, played (as mentioned above) in an unfamiliar role. He hasn't been too bad. And who would replace him?

Pele seems to have some doubts about Brasil : ""I believe Brazil will be in the final," Pele said. "We have to trust our team. But there's one difference this time. Brazil have always been good in attack. I think, for the first time, we have a little problem in attack. But I still trust that Brazil will be in the final.""
posted by marienbad at 2:21 AM on June 28


Could the USMNT thing be at least in part because our women's team traditionally got more press and public attention? Maybe the U.S. is the only country where you need to specify that you are talking about the men's team.
posted by Area Man at 4:02 AM on June 28 [3 favorites]


Some more analysis on the BBC website of Brazil vs Chile, and also the live odds.
posted by Wordshore at 4:37 AM on June 28


Sorry,. forgot to include my predictions for today's games earlier:

Colombia 3 - 1 Uruguay.

Brazil 2 - 3 Chile (without ref's help)

Brazil 3 - 1 Chile (with ref's help)
posted by marienbad at 5:32 AM on June 28


Here in dank Loughborough, somewhere in middle England, interest has tapered off somewhat since England's spectacular "One point from a possible nine." A few supermarkets took down and dumped their "Come on England!" bunting straight after the Costa Rica draw, while the number of drunken, sunburnt, bald, obese, tattoo-laden middle age men wearing England shirts about the town has declined. However, many of the pubs are showing the matches, and this morning several people with Brazil tops were braving the un-Brazil-like weather to wander around the local market town shops.

My predictions for today:

Brazil 4 - 0 Chile, as Brazil finally step it up a few gears.

Colombia 1 - 1 Uruguay, with Uruguay going through on penalties.
posted by Wordshore at 6:07 AM on June 28


... while the number of drunken, sunburnt, bald, obese, tattoo-laden middle age men wearing England shirts about the town has declined.

But that's a good development! Isn't it?
posted by sour cream at 6:37 AM on June 28


But that's a good development! Isn't it?

Yes; it'll make for less mournful street shouting in the early hours, though the pubs will have a knock in trade because of England's early exit.

Brazil vs Chile match time in just over an hour. The match page on the FIFA World Cup website has yet more statistics.

Of note is that the referee is Howard Webb, who some see as controversial. Expect lots of tweets and the like over his decisions. Howard refereed the 2010 World Cup final and issued 14(!) yellow cards during that match.
posted by Wordshore at 7:49 AM on June 28


if the World Cup were a beer competition

In the actual competition of the 2013 marketplace, Bud Light is the Messi/Ronaldo/Suarez of the US; outselling its competitor, Coors Light, by more than 2:1. BL outsold all imports, combined. BL outsold all craft beers, combined. BL outsold all imported and craft beer, combined.

And to whom did the Brazilian Congress capitulate, overturning the country's 2003 ban on beer sales inside soccer stadiums? FIFA, Bud Light and AB InBev, the Belgian-Brazilian multinational owner of Anheuser-Busch (founded in St. Louis, MO in 1852) since 2008. As Americans, we must resist. On Tuesday, we'll fight the Belgians on the pitch and, gods be willing, the Brazilians on July 13th. Root. Paint your face. Wear silly costumes. Cheer. Scream. And have a Yuengling or six while doing so.
posted by wensink at 8:03 AM on June 28


So a Chilean bank did a rousing Worldcup commercial featuring the Chilean miners who'd been trapped underground a few years ago.

Here's the Dutch equivalent.
posted by MartinWisse at 8:54 AM on June 28


Some good haircut comparisons in the tunnel between Brazil and Chile players, nice to see the important things still matter to these guys.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 8:57 AM on June 28


The Brazilian fans tried to drown out the Chilean anthem. Not cool.
posted by Area Man at 8:59 AM on June 28


1st of the knockouts! Time for Hulk to smash one in, so we can all mark that off our bingo cards.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 8:59 AM on June 28


Fred's moustache still there, I see. Come on FIFA, if you can ban Suarez, you can have a word with Fred about that awful bloody thing.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 9:04 AM on June 28


Neymar is limping like crazy.
posted by marienbad at 9:09 AM on June 28


The reason for USMNT is the USWNT, who are also prominent in the game -- indeed, whereas the USMNT considers a Round of 16 appearance a good showing, the USWNT considers appearing in the 3rd place game a bad showing.

The abbreviations come from places where both teams are talked about, so "The National Team" doesn't really work, and really, the teams don't have a nickname. Non-USAins sometimes call them the Yanks, but we don't. We can refer to El Tri and have it point to one team (The Mexico Men's National Team) but we don't have a good short names to refer to the top squads in the US.

I expect all of you to be in the appropriate thread next year when the USWNT goes for their third star.
posted by eriko at 9:11 AM on June 28


Have Brazil got another striker? Fred is dire, offers virtually nothing.
posted by marienbad at 9:13 AM on June 28


Oh, wow - Neymar covering a _lot_ of ground there, and holding the ball of from two defenders. Just couldn't quite make the pass.

Chile are a really nice, ball-playing side, though, aren't they? And totally undaunted, it seems...
posted by running order squabble fest at 9:18 AM on June 28


Okay, finally got to a TV. (On the road this weekend.)

What was that yellow for?
posted by eriko at 9:19 AM on June 28


And no sooner do I say that.
posted by running order squabble fest at 9:19 AM on June 28


I had forgotten about that mustache. You're right, FIFA clearly needs to take a stand against that sort of thing.

OOOPS. Chile scores and it's 1-0 Brazil.
posted by eriko at 9:20 AM on June 28


Agree, Running order, needs to sometimes not do it all!

Luiz is there! Poor defending.
posted by marienbad at 9:20 AM on June 28 [1 favorite]


I turned on the teevee just in time to see Brazilians hugging excitedly
posted by elizardbits at 9:22 AM on June 28


Oh boy, I can't tell if that was an own goal.
posted by shothotbot at 9:25 AM on June 28


My colleague, who really isn't into football, just now:

"So, when are Scotland playing in this world cup thing?"
posted by Wordshore at 9:26 AM on June 28


It looks an awful lot like it was from 2 of the 3 replay angles.

sigh
posted by elizardbits at 9:27 AM on June 28


Is that Howard Webb? And why didn't he book Neymar for that finger wag? Clear dissention.
posted by eriko at 9:27 AM on June 28 [1 favorite]


Not for a long, long time!
posted by marienbad at 9:27 AM on June 28


I turned on the teevee just in time to see Brazilians hugging excitedly

MMmooOOOommmmm you gotta knock before you come in my roooooommm
posted by robocop is bleeding at 9:29 AM on June 28 [3 favorites]


Sorry, am English, couldn't resist obvious joke.
posted by marienbad at 9:29 AM on June 28


Wow, Vidal's mohawk has a mohawk!
posted by eriko at 9:31 AM on June 28


Can we maybe have more than 2 minutes of play without a stupid foul?
posted by marienbad at 9:33 AM on June 28


Admirable restraint displayed so far in terms of cards.
posted by wensink at 9:33 AM on June 28


Ok but the best thing about that goal was the tiny section of red going crazy in a sea of yellow
posted by elizardbits at 9:34 AM on June 28


Boom. 1-1. Not an inspiring effort by the Brazilian goalie, though.
posted by eriko at 9:34 AM on June 28


Sanchez!! Brazil where were you?
posted by marienbad at 9:34 AM on June 28


I'll take that Suarez for Sanchez +50 mil deal, Barca.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 9:35 AM on June 28 [1 favorite]


I was about to say that Brazil was defending well, then they sort of completely forgot about that.
posted by eriko at 9:35 AM on June 28


OH WOW. I do not know how much Silva knew about that block....
posted by running order squabble fest at 9:37 AM on June 28


Yeah, considering Scolari has supposedly set Brazil up to be hard to beat, that was a very poor goal to concede.

Wow, Chile Goalie, what are you doing?

This game is getting lively.
posted by marienbad at 9:38 AM on June 28


That was quite a bit of pachinko in Chile's penalty box, I'm really surprised Brazil didn't score then.
posted by eriko at 9:38 AM on June 28


By the way, Graham Zusi, that's how to cross. Into the box, not completely over it. Please take notes for Tuesday.
posted by eriko at 9:39 AM on June 28


Aww, Hulk, that was yours. Maybe the 'stache is messing with your balance.
posted by eriko at 9:41 AM on June 28


This has been an excellent game. I should be preparing for a party this afternoon, but this is quite good.

Speaking of good, I love this ad for the Chilean national team.
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 9:58 AM on June 28


Fred's moustache still there, I see. Come on FIFA, if you can ban Suarez, you can have a word with Fred about that awful bloody thing.
They already have.
That's why Brazil has to play Fred.
posted by fullerine at 10:02 AM on June 28


Yeah, it has been full of pressing and fairly end to end, there has been only a little slower build-up by Chile sometimes. I score it Brazil just ahead on points, although a bit too reliant on Neymar, bur Chile seem to be more of a team, and willing to work for one another.

Substitutions for the 2nd half? Jo for Fred? Heh. Maybe bring on Bernard, he seems pretty direct.

Luis Gustavo - is it just me or does he look like an Indian Porn star with that 'tache?
posted by marienbad at 10:03 AM on June 28


If Hulk had as much talent as he has body mass, he would be unbelieveably good. Pity he hasn't.

This is the worst Brazil in ages, I don't care if they win this game or even the whole tournament.
posted by marienbad at 10:06 AM on June 28


Both are very physical teams and hungry today for the win. Wish they'd play a bit less aggressive though.
posted by travelwithcats at 10:08 AM on June 28


Agreed -- this game is more like hockey than anything else -- hit the guy with the puck ball.
posted by eriko at 10:11 AM on June 28


HULK SMASH! No wait ah fuck.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 10:15 AM on June 28 [2 favorites]


That was a much less clear handball than I would have liked
posted by elizardbits at 10:16 AM on June 28


A lot of commentators just described that Hulk goal as "incredible" before it was disallowed, I ween.
posted by running order squabble fest at 10:16 AM on June 28


He's right. I don't like Hulk when he's angry.
posted by eriko at 10:16 AM on June 28


Not a handball! Brazil was robbed.
posted by Area Man at 10:17 AM on June 28


Just as I diss Hulk, he scores, and doesn't. Surely this will lift Chile.

Hilarious to hear Scolari and Brazil complain about diving.
posted by marienbad at 10:19 AM on June 28


Also Brazil seem to have stepped it up a couple of gears.
posted by marienbad at 10:19 AM on June 28


This will be 9 vs 9 soon.
posted by marienbad at 10:21 AM on June 28


USA Soccer Guy observes.
posted by Wordshore at 10:22 AM on June 28


Relevant
posted by Rock Steady at 10:24 AM on June 28


What a save!
posted by Dumsnill at 10:25 AM on June 28


Wow, that was a sweet combination by Chile, and a good save. Lame corner, though.
posted by eriko at 10:25 AM on June 28


Chile on top just now, moving quickly both on and off the ball.

And here is the change I jokingly called! I bet that's put the wind up Chile.

Wow Cesar! Where did that come from. Again, poor from Brazil.
posted by marienbad at 10:25 AM on June 28


I don't think I would want to be on the receiving end of a Julio Cesar diatribe.
posted by Dr. Zira at 10:26 AM on June 28


Strange to hear the commentator say "Hulk muscelled out of it."
posted by marienbad at 10:28 AM on June 28 [1 favorite]


every time he says "so and so spreads it wide open" i cackle an ugly infantile cackle
posted by elizardbits at 10:38 AM on June 28 [1 favorite]


HULK didn't SMASH again! You know what I mean.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 10:45 AM on June 28


every time he says "so and so spreads it wide open" i cackle an ugly infantile cackle

At some point someone is going to say, during a Germany game, "Gotze has a huge opening here!".

I may not survive that.
posted by running order squabble fest at 10:49 AM on June 28 [3 favorites]


Because it rhymes with cunt?
posted by travelwithcats at 10:51 AM on June 28


I ... don't think I would feel good about explaining the joke to anyone who didn't already know about ... that.
posted by running order squabble fest at 10:54 AM on June 28


Chile had way more control in that second half than I would have guessed. Brazil just look...confused? Bored? Unsure why the ref just didn't give them a win?

I don't know. But I had them getting to the finals and beat by Argentina but I have to wonder if they have another round in them.
posted by Tevin at 10:58 AM on June 28


Is Taylor Twellman (studio commentator on ABC) wearing a doily corsage?
posted by wensink at 10:59 AM on June 28


I don't know what's more comical, the "OMG MY LEG HAS BEEN RIPPED OFF!!!" ground wiggle or the "I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING!!!!" pleading look.
posted by eriko at 11:08 AM on June 28 [1 favorite]


This is disappointing for Brazil.

I feel like Chile is aiming for the shoot-out, hoping luck will see them through?

Brazil is clearly the better team today, but they can't get the goals.
posted by Dumsnill at 11:09 AM on June 28


I'm secretly hoping for penalties just so Hulk can finally smash, for chrissakes!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 11:15 AM on June 28 [1 favorite]


It's nice to see teams that can actually pass the ball. Unlike a certain side I could name.
posted by ob1quixote at 11:16 AM on June 28


That was uninspiring.
posted by eriko at 11:19 AM on June 28


Whatever happen this game is going to break a nation's heart. Only Howard Webb can save the world from such woe, by giving everyone on both teams three yellow cards each and thus suspending the entire contest. Come on Howard, do the right thing, for mercy's sake.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 11:21 AM on June 28 [3 favorites]


Fourth half underway! By God Howard Webb, use your poor counting skills for good, not for evil!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 11:23 AM on June 28 [1 favorite]


Howard Webb needs not your fancy hair.
posted by eriko at 11:26 AM on June 28 [1 favorite]


Webb can't get through officiating a game without at least one outrage, can he?
posted by ardgedee at 11:28 AM on June 28


I need someone, anyone at all, to win very soon so I can go pee
posted by elizardbits at 11:29 AM on June 28


Seven minute to a shootout. None shall pee!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 11:30 AM on June 28


Blimey. Gustavo wins some sort of award for commitment to open play there by heading a ball the was going out for a throw heroically onto the boot of a Chilean player...
posted by running order squabble fest at 11:32 AM on June 28


Also, I hate how arbitrary penalty shootouts are, and yet they are so thrilling. What to cheer for?
posted by running order squabble fest at 11:34 AM on June 28


Chile is just gassed.
posted by eriko at 11:35 AM on June 28


I have nothing against Chile, but if Brazil loses on penalties... Fuck...
posted by Dumsnill at 11:36 AM on June 28


HULK HAS STRONGEST KICK THERE IS!
posted by running order squabble fest at 11:36 AM on June 28


Everyone just looks tired and grumpy.
posted by elizardbits at 11:36 AM on June 28


Sorry. But that was a pigeon-killer of a shot.
posted by running order squabble fest at 11:36 AM on June 28


oh my god
posted by Dumsnill at 11:37 AM on June 28


And then oh my word! So close from... was that Sanchez?
posted by running order squabble fest at 11:37 AM on June 28


538.com is reporting that the chance of Errant being sober right now is 0.37%
posted by Dr. Zira at 11:38 AM on June 28 [4 favorites]


Quick - your predictions for penalties, MeFites?
posted by Wordshore at 11:39 AM on June 28


Tweet. Kicks from the spot, now.
posted by eriko at 11:39 AM on June 28


*If* this game goes to PKs, edge goes to Chile, no? Cesar has looked sharper than Bravo all game.
posted by wensink at 11:39 AM on June 28


5-4 Brazil
posted by Dumsnill at 11:40 AM on June 28


Both sides are limping and cramping between plays and making stupid decisions during plays. It's Survivor Soccer.
posted by ardgedee at 11:40 AM on June 28


i predict im gonna pee
posted by elizardbits at 11:40 AM on June 28


4-3 Chile.
posted by shothotbot at 11:40 AM on June 28


I think Brasil will shoot better, Chile's GK will do better. A ver.
posted by ersatz at 11:42 AM on June 28


I feel Brazil may not get through here. Big call but, I really hate Fred's tache. But I'm typing out Hulk Smash right now and will hit "post comment" right at the millisecond he kicks it.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 11:42 AM on June 28 [3 favorites]


Chile on PKs
posted by Tevin at 11:43 AM on June 28


4-3 Brazil.
posted by eriko at 11:43 AM on June 28


Julio Cesar reminds me of Buzz Lightyear.
posted by Dr. Zira at 11:45 AM on June 28


BALLO NETTIO! 1-0
posted by Wordshore at 11:48 AM on June 28


SCORE from David Luis, the kid they brought into the later seasons of Frasier to pep up the ensemble.
posted by running order squabble fest at 11:49 AM on June 28


SAVIO! 1-0
posted by Wordshore at 11:49 AM on June 28


Ha ha ha
posted by Dumsnill at 11:49 AM on June 28


OK guys real quick who should I be rooting for?
posted by lalex at 11:49 AM on June 28


Oh FFS not straight to the GK.
posted by ersatz at 11:49 AM on June 28


no!
posted by Dumsnill at 11:49 AM on June 28


PATHETICO SHOTTIO! 1-0
posted by Wordshore at 11:49 AM on June 28


Oops. Wide to the left.
posted by eriko at 11:50 AM on June 28


Oh Willian, has John Terry been giving masterclasses?
posted by ersatz at 11:50 AM on June 28 [3 favorites]


SAVIO AGAINIO! STILL 1-0
posted by Wordshore at 11:50 AM on June 28


Lot of kids going to be called Julio at this rate...
posted by running order squabble fest at 11:51 AM on June 28 [1 favorite]


CESAR SMASH!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 11:51 AM on June 28


Chile: "Are you England in disguise...?"
posted by Wordshore at 11:51 AM on June 28


Do Chile know they don't have to kick straight?
posted by Rock Steady at 11:51 AM on June 28


HULK SMASH!!!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 11:52 AM on June 28


SMASH DENIED
posted by elizardbits at 11:52 AM on June 28


HULK kinda of just tapped it.
posted by eriko at 11:52 AM on June 28


OR NOT!!!
posted by Dumsnill at 11:53 AM on June 28


HULK CRASH!

Emotionally.
posted by running order squabble fest at 11:53 AM on June 28


Oh for FUCKS SAKE Hulk, will you NEVER smash???
posted by the quidnunc kid at 11:53 AM on June 28 [4 favorites]


INTO SUDDEN DEATH PENALTIES!!!
posted by Wordshore at 11:53 AM on June 28


Neymar trolling there...
posted by running order squabble fest at 11:55 AM on June 28


Bonk. Brazil wins.
posted by eriko at 11:55 AM on June 28


Fuck Yeah! there is justice in the world!!!
posted by Dumsnill at 11:55 AM on June 28


The good news is that England have a chance at penalty shootouts should they ever play Chile.
posted by ersatz at 11:57 AM on June 28 [1 favorite]


ok good work everyone see you back here in an hour
posted by elizardbits at 11:58 AM on June 28


Does the fact that they went through have any possible effect down the line? Or is "won and done"?
posted by benito.strauss at 11:58 AM on June 28


Wow. Literally one post-width between the teams. Three cheers for Chile, great game - but Hulk has not smashed his last. Or first, for that matter.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 12:00 PM on June 28


NOOOO Eduardo Vargas THERE IS NO CRYING IN SOCCER
posted by Dr. Zira at 12:01 PM on June 28 [1 favorite]


Wow. Crazy game.
posted by rosswald at 12:05 PM on June 28


Rede Globo is trying to interview Hulk but he's crying.
posted by needled at 12:06 PM on June 28


Tbh, it was not the greatest game and it's down to luck that Brazil won.
posted by travelwithcats at 12:08 PM on June 28


I would like to hear German Matt Damon's thoughts on this match but alas, he is not in the studio today.
posted by Dr. Zira at 12:10 PM on June 28


Is this Hulk's girlfriend?!
posted by wensink at 12:11 PM on June 28 [1 favorite]


Alexi trying the Neymar-inspired "comb-forward."
posted by robocop is bleeding at 12:14 PM on June 28 [1 favorite]


If only he'd saved some of his beard hair for this day.
posted by Dr. Zira at 12:15 PM on June 28


Soccer players in international tournaments should have playoff beards the way hockey players do. It would make the final rounds so much more interesting.
posted by ardgedee at 12:17 PM on June 28


Damn, I was exhausted and fell asleep in the first half of extra time. Woke up at the end of penalties! That's what I get for being up late last night drinking.

Well Done Brazil I guess. Now onto the main course: Uruguay vs Colombia, and Uruguay make a couple of changes, including, unsurprisingly, Forlan in for Suarez:

The teams [via BBC]

"Colombia make seven changes from the side which beat Japan 4-1 in their final group game, as their first-choice players return from a rest.

Uruguay make two changes, as Diego Forlan replaces the banned Luis Suarez.

Colombia: Ospina, Zapata, Yepes (c), Sanchez, Armero, Aguilar, Gutierrez, Rodriguez, Cuadrado, Zuniga, Martinez

Uruguay: Muslera, Godin (c), Pereira, Rodriguez, Forlan, Gimenez, Pereira, Arevalo, Gonzalez, Cavani, Caceres "

This should be another good game.
posted by marienbad at 12:33 PM on June 28


Let's pause and reflect on some of the things Diego Forlán brings to the table....
posted by Dr. Zira at 12:48 PM on June 28


He has nice hair?
posted by marienbad at 12:53 PM on June 28 [1 favorite]


The players are on their way out so anyone for a quick prediction? Sticking with my earlier 3-1 to Cololmbia.
posted by marienbad at 12:55 PM on June 28


I'll go with 2-1 Uruguay because Maxi is back.
posted by Dr. Zira at 12:56 PM on June 28


Uruguay to win, just to annoy everyone. They have a smiley sun on their flag! Their goalkeeper is a tangerine! What's not to like?
posted by the quidnunc kid at 12:58 PM on June 28


And they have an awesome national anthem.
posted by Dr. Zira at 12:59 PM on June 28


And because Oscar Tabarez looks like a James Bond supervillain.
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:00 PM on June 28 [1 favorite]


benito.strauss - To belatedly answer your earlier question: these are knockout games, the winner goes through to the quarter finals, the loser is out.
posted by marienbad at 1:01 PM on June 28 [1 favorite]




And ITV have Tyldsley and Townsend commentating. Jeez.
posted by marienbad at 1:01 PM on June 28


(I'm watching with the sound turned off in a small hotel room in Dublin with my sleeping infant son in a cot underneath the TV).
posted by the quidnunc kid at 1:02 PM on June 28 [1 favorite]


2-2

3-2 colombia in the second of the 15 minutes.
posted by Dumsnill at 1:04 PM on June 28


I'm watching the belgian channel, because our dutch commentary sucks.
posted by Pendragon at 1:04 PM on June 28


And 2-0 for Colombia.
posted by Pendragon at 1:04 PM on June 28


Oh god cuadrado - look at him go, its like sex.
posted by marienbad at 1:05 PM on June 28


(Mrs quidnunc just fired up the iPad - now we have headphones. Technology, eh? What a world.)
posted by the quidnunc kid at 1:06 PM on June 28


Hey, ABC/ESPN? Could you maybe boost the mic levels in the commentator's booth or turn 'em down on the field? The crowd is deafening.
posted by wensink at 1:06 PM on June 28


Good punch by the tangerine!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 1:06 PM on June 28


Yeah, pretty noticable kit for the keeper
posted by marienbad at 1:08 PM on June 28


1970's TV show: Tea Cosy and the Tangerine.
posted by eriko at 1:08 PM on June 28 [2 favorites]


And they have an awesome national anthem.

It sounds like a Mozart overture, very delightful
posted by elizardbits at 1:09 PM on June 28 [1 favorite]


and they also have martin caceres who is dreamy
posted by elizardbits at 1:10 PM on June 28


Neither team is playing particularly well at the moment.

Long shot right at the tangerine.
posted by eriko at 1:12 PM on June 28


[via BBC]

From 2010 to today, Uruguay have won 17 out of 22 with Suarez, and lost 3 out of 4 without.
posted by marienbad at 1:12 PM on June 28


Alternatively Colombia will lose after Peckerman makes a couple of bizarre, 2nd half substitutions.
posted by marienbad at 1:14 PM on June 28


Is the keeper's suit supposed to curry subconscious favor from the Dutch officials?
posted by mbrubeck at 1:17 PM on June 28


I fancy Colombia's chances.
posted by ersatz at 1:17 PM on June 28


"Pecker" man. Hmmm. Well, it's no mannschaft, but I think we can work with that.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 1:18 PM on June 28


Should you be thinking about other men's peckers?
posted by marienbad at 1:20 PM on June 28 [1 favorite]


Is it me or does Zuniga throw the ball oddly at throw-ins?
posted by marienbad at 1:21 PM on June 28


"But the wide chest of Godin stopped the ball". A (translated) excerpt of the German description just for you, tqk.
posted by ersatz at 1:23 PM on June 28 [1 favorite]


I want Miguel Herrera on every sideline. The Uruguay coach is boring.
posted by eriko at 1:24 PM on June 28


The Uruguay coach is delusional, he actually defended Suarez.
posted by Pendragon at 1:26 PM on June 28


Interesting stat: if Colombia win today, then yellow will resume its place as the best of the primarily colours, and blue can go eat a shit.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 1:27 PM on June 28


Rodriguez gives the ball away - see, happens to the best of them.
posted by marienbad at 1:27 PM on June 28


Oh. NICE.
posted by eriko at 1:28 PM on June 28


Nice goal!!!!
posted by Pendragon at 1:28 PM on June 28


MOtherfuck!!
posted by Dumsnill at 1:28 PM on June 28


Damn, how about that!
posted by ersatz at 1:28 PM on June 28


And atones with a scorcher! what a great goal, lovely play before to set him up!
posted by marienbad at 1:29 PM on June 28


Rodriguez with a brilliant shot. Nicely done.
posted by eriko at 1:29 PM on June 28


What kind of wiggle butt dancing is this? I love it!
posted by Margalo Epps at 1:29 PM on June 28


WHAT A GOAL!!!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 1:29 PM on June 28


Now what do Uruguay do, they have been ultra cautious so far, almost Greece like!
posted by marienbad at 1:29 PM on June 28


I am available to console them if they lose, just throwing that out there
posted by elizardbits at 1:31 PM on June 28 [2 favorites]


Uruguay could use some ...... bite.
posted by Pendragon at 1:31 PM on June 28


Nice sequence for Uruguay there. This game is getting interesting.

Nice tackle to stop the break.
posted by eriko at 1:31 PM on June 28


Do ITV announcers always make a point of the pay rates of goal scorers? Because it seemed important enough to go on about for a couple minutes after Rodriguez's goal.
posted by ardgedee at 1:34 PM on June 28


Oh, and it has been three days since Luis Suarez has bitten anyone. Play Safe!
posted by eriko at 1:35 PM on June 28


Hmm, I'm saddened by the lack of a Diego Forlan free kick.
posted by lizarrd at 1:35 PM on June 28


(I'm watching with the sound turned off in a small hotel room in Dublin with my sleeping infant son in a cot underneath the TV).

Tip from a friend who ... had an incident. Write a note and put on the inside of your door:

AM I HOLDING INFANT SON IN COT OR IS HE STILL UNDER TV?
posted by Wordshore at 1:35 PM on June 28 [2 favorites]


Diego Forlán is still a good-looking man.
posted by needled at 1:36 PM on June 28


Cavani was great in Napoli but he hasn't been performing that well lately.
posted by ersatz at 1:36 PM on June 28


> (I'm watching with the sound turned off in a small hotel room in Dublin with my sleeping infant son in a cot underneath the TV).

Half a quid? The Quidnunc Kid Kid? Would this make your brother a nunclet's uncle?

It's OK, I can multitask. The game is going on well too.
posted by ardgedee at 1:37 PM on June 28 [1 favorite]


Wow, other than that one sequence, Uruguay is playing horribly.
posted by eriko at 1:37 PM on June 28


Nice save from Lime, there.
posted by eriko at 1:39 PM on June 28


Urugay needs to be careful with this whole 3 in the back situation lest this Columbian counterattack bite them in the arse.
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:42 PM on June 28


The Quidnunc Kid Kid?

quark, to his MeFi friends.

Close, Uruguay! Your tangerine is mightier than the Colombian lime - Squeeze that lime, and drink the bitter juice of your enemies!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 1:42 PM on June 28


With tequila, of course.
posted by eriko at 1:43 PM on June 28


That was a shoss by Columbia (Not quite a shot, not quite a cross.)
posted by eriko at 1:44 PM on June 28 [1 favorite]


Peep Peep PEEP. 45' down, 45' to go!
posted by eriko at 1:47 PM on June 28


Uruguay looking ordinary, completely missing Suarez. Deep defending til the goal and then they just didn't seem to know what to to. One or 2 decent passages of play and that's about it.
posted by marienbad at 1:49 PM on June 28


Plus an equalizing goal! And 15' overtime! And 15' overtime! And a shootout!

Hey, it happened once.
posted by ardgedee at 1:50 PM on June 28


An equalising goal? Who's going to score that?

Also, its just 30 minutes of extra time.
posted by marienbad at 1:52 PM on June 28


I missed the goal when it happened, just saw it in replay. Boy that was nice.
posted by benito.strauss at 1:52 PM on June 28


That goal is just so beautiful
posted by Dumsnill at 1:54 PM on June 28


Edinson Cavani is conducting a ritual sacrifice to the soccer gods as we speak and will score the equalizing goal.
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:55 PM on June 28


That goal was even prettier than the players (and Uruguay, those shirts look painted on).
posted by Margalo Epps at 1:56 PM on June 28


The TV Globo commentators can't stop enthusing about the golaço from Colombia.
posted by needled at 1:59 PM on June 28


On RTE 2 (Irish station), two sixty year old men in suits just had a snarky argument about their contrasting views on Uraguay's tactics. It was like watching a MetaTalk thread from our own future in lilting accents.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:03 PM on June 28 [2 favorites]


And there we go!
posted by Dumsnill at 2:07 PM on June 28


I really enjoy their goal dance.
posted by elizardbits at 2:07 PM on June 28


James x 2!! What a great worked goal, superb interplay.
posted by marienbad at 2:07 PM on June 28


Wow, Rodriguez strikes again!

Sad Tangerine is Sad.
posted by eriko at 2:08 PM on June 28 [2 favorites]


Tabarez has just given the order to unleash the Doomsday Device.
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:08 PM on June 28 [2 favorites]


Both goals were great.
posted by ersatz at 2:08 PM on June 28


James man of the match!!!
posted by Pendragon at 2:08 PM on June 28


And Happy Lime is Happy!
posted by eriko at 2:08 PM on June 28 [1 favorite]


Uruguay is bringing in two attackers.
posted by eriko at 2:10 PM on June 28


Unsurprisingly Forlan is subbed. Tabarez uses his first two rolls of the dice...
posted by marienbad at 2:11 PM on June 28


Colombia are so likeable it angers me! Bite their proud lime, Urugauy! Bite it with your football prowess! I mean that as a metaphor and in no way literally!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:11 PM on June 28 [4 favorites]


I wonder who will be taking set pieces now for Uruguay.
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:11 PM on June 28


Not Godin!
posted by marienbad at 2:14 PM on June 28


What is the national food of Colombia? The Brazilians have feijoada and Uruguayans have chivito, and there's Chilean empanadas, but what about Colombia?
posted by needled at 2:19 PM on June 28


Cocaine sarnies.
posted by marienbad at 2:20 PM on June 28


Arepas?
posted by benito.strauss at 2:20 PM on June 28


This is a much better half, Uruguay are actually playing football.
posted by marienbad at 2:21 PM on June 28


First good shot Uruguay has had.
posted by eriko at 2:22 PM on June 28


Hippo burger ?
posted by Pendragon at 2:23 PM on June 28


(needled, if you live near Boston, go to Viva Mi Arepa in JP.)
posted by benito.strauss at 2:23 PM on June 28


Good save by lime, again.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:24 PM on June 28


I wonder if I can substitute with Salvadorean pupusas (sadly I am nowhere near Boston).
posted by needled at 2:26 PM on June 28


Goodbye Uruguay.
posted by Dumsnill at 2:31 PM on June 28


Of course this game is going to result in Uruguayan officials insisting that they wuz robbed by the English-speaking conspiracy. And, I dunno, Queen Elizabeth and the lizard people race trying to take over Earth, starting with Uruguay.
posted by ardgedee at 2:31 PM on June 28


If Uruguay had played like this from the start, I wonder what the score would be.
posted by marienbad at 2:34 PM on June 28


what was that?!
posted by misha at 2:34 PM on June 28


Ridiculous foul.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:36 PM on June 28


Armero crosses himself as he comes back on. Its ok mate, Suarez isn't playing.
posted by marienbad at 2:36 PM on June 28 [1 favorite]


Time wasting. Geez.
posted by misha at 2:36 PM on June 28


Wow, nearly!
posted by marienbad at 2:37 PM on June 28


Oh that was close.
posted by Dumsnill at 2:37 PM on June 28


Wow. Amazing that wasn't a goal. Nicely done, Lime!
posted by eriko at 2:37 PM on June 28


"Stop moaning. Play faster". Love that sportscaster.
posted by ersatz at 2:38 PM on June 28


Cuadrado exits. See you in the quarters mate.
posted by marienbad at 2:39 PM on June 28


Well tackled there. Colombia defending well so far (generally)
posted by marienbad at 2:39 PM on June 28


"Stop moaning. Play faster". Love that sportscaster.

What is this and how can I stream the audio (from the US)?
posted by Margalo Epps at 2:39 PM on June 28


All forwards for Uruguay now.
posted by marienbad at 2:41 PM on June 28


What is this and how can I stream the audio (from the US)?

I'm afraid it's in German. Could you understand the language?
posted by ersatz at 2:43 PM on June 28


And now Rodriguez is off - Colombia are shutting up shop.
posted by marienbad at 2:43 PM on June 28


Rodriguez off. Nice game for him.
posted by eriko at 2:43 PM on June 28


Not well enough, unfortunately. I'll try to be ready for the next World Cup.
posted by Margalo Epps at 2:43 PM on June 28


I'm happy
posted by Dumsnill at 2:45 PM on June 28


Of all the teams people said were dark horses, Colombia look just about the best.

So what do people think the Brazil Colombia scoreline will be?
posted by marienbad at 2:47 PM on June 28


12-12 after extra time.
Brazil on Penalites
posted by fullerine at 2:47 PM on June 28


Not well enough, unfortunately. I'll try to be ready for the next World Cup.

I'll send links your way come next WC :)
posted by ersatz at 2:48 PM on June 28


On RTE 2 (Irish station), two sixty year old men in suits just had a snarky argument about their contrasting views on Uraguay's tactics. It was like watching a MetaTalk thread from our own future in lilting accents.



Johnny Giles and Eamonn Dunphy are the best! They've been doing the studio commentary (with Bill O'Herlihy hosting) for literally as long as I can remember!
posted by TwoWordReview at 2:49 PM on June 28 [1 favorite]


Peep. Peep. PEEEEP!!! Columbia's defense was solid the whole game, James Rodriguez was brilliant. First time for the quarterfinals for them. Well done.
posted by eriko at 2:51 PM on June 28


I'm going to miss the early game -- I'll be driving back home listening on the radio, but I don't Mefi and Drive. Should be back for the Germany game.
posted by eriko at 2:52 PM on June 28


Colombia are through! Well done Colombia, well deserved.
posted by marienbad at 2:52 PM on June 28


So what do people think the Brazil Colombia scoreline will be?

1-1
Brazil wins on shoot-out.
posted by Dumsnill at 2:52 PM on June 28


Brazil look beatable.
posted by shothotbot at 2:53 PM on June 28


After all 10 try penalty kicks Rodriguez vs Neymar in single combat
posted by shothotbot at 2:54 PM on June 28


"12-12 after extra time.
Brazil on Penalites
"

Brazil score 12? lol.
posted by marienbad at 2:55 PM on June 28


Colombia could well knock Brazil out in QF. Friday 4th July is the big day for that one
posted by marienbad at 2:57 PM on June 28


Brazil 2 - 3 Colombia after Colombia's second goal butt wiggle dance hypnotizes the entire team into letting Colombia win.
posted by lizarrd at 3:09 PM on June 28 [1 favorite]


Anyone know of continuing WC coverage that is not ESPN? ITV just finished up their broadcast.
posted by wensink at 3:17 PM on June 28


ugh i fell asleep and missed everything
posted by elizardbits at 3:18 PM on June 28


With 18 teams out and only 14 left, here's the latest (live and therefore changing) odds across many UK bookmakers.
posted by Wordshore at 3:18 PM on June 28


What are you looking for Wensink? MOTD highlights on BBC 1 shortly. BBC has clips and stuff. atdhe has stuff but I only watched the pre-WC friendlies on there as it has all been on BBC or ITV, so not sure exctly how it works.

Netherlands v Mexico first tomorrow, followed by Costa Rica v Greece - the Big One!
posted by marienbad at 3:27 PM on June 28


Wow, the US is getting better odds than Greece and Switzerland.

And Germnay isn't playing tommorow. I has a fail.
posted by eriko at 5:12 PM on June 28


I am really looking forward to Netherlands v. Mexico tomorrow.


I want to see van Gaal and Herrera go at each other like frickin' Gurren Lagann.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 6:04 PM on June 28


I'll be travelling during the game, but I hope reading the thread post facto (and after the glorious Grecian victory etc.) will make up for it.
posted by ersatz at 6:25 PM on June 28


Man, I want to watch the matches tomorrow. But our special needs son is going to sleep-away camp tomorrow, and it will be the first time my wife and I will be alone for a night for a decade. Life is so cruel sometimes.
posted by mollweide at 6:32 PM on June 28


I am really looking forward to Netherlands v. Mexico tomorrow.

Do you too await the Meteor of Justice?
posted by robocop is bleeding at 7:32 PM on June 28


wensink -- if you're in the US, Univision is broadcasting most (maybe all?) of the remaining games with commentary in Spanish. (I'm watching despite a lack of understanding of Spanish.) It's a regular broadcast channel (not cable).
posted by Margalo Epps at 8:29 PM on June 28


Good morning, football fans new and old.

Round of 16: Matches 3 and 4

Some say "Football is Sex". They may be referring to this commentary (perfectly safe for work) from the Colombia vs Uruguay match yesterday.

It's day 2 of the Round of 16, where the number of teams still in the 2014 FIFA world cup is reduced from 14 to 12.

First today - noon USA eastern time - we have the Netherlands (1/1 at some bookmakers) against Mexico (3/1). The BBC have basic team news, match preview and facts. The Netherlands coach fears the heat in this one.

At 4pm USA eastern time we have Costa Rica (6/4) against Greece (9/4). Again, the BBC with some team news and match preview and statistics. Costa Rica are coming under more analysis due to their progress, especially of their goalkeeper Navas and striker Campbell.

The winners of todays matches face-off in the Quarter Finals next Saturday at 4pm USA Eastern.

Also: the increasingly confident USA coach Jürgen Klinsmann has told his players to change their families’ return flights from Brazil until after the World Cup final.
posted by Wordshore at 3:12 AM on June 29 [3 favorites]


Come on Costa Rica! I cannot stand all that Greek anti-football. The thought of Greece getting to the semi-final by beating Costa Rica and then Mexico! Yeah, defending well is a skill and requires discipline, training, concentration blah blah blah. And when you have successfully defended I'm pretty sure the idea is to turn over the play and go on the attack, play pretty football and score goals (hello Colombia).

Greece have had a couple of decent counter attacks and in their last game played a bit better than before, but Costa Rica have been outstanding all tournament, playing better football than anyone in their group. They deserve to be where they are and hopefully will go a little bit further.
posted by marienbad at 4:22 AM on June 29 [1 favorite]


Man, I want to watch the matches tomorrow. But our special needs son is going to sleep-away camp tomorrow, and it will be the first time my wife and I will be alone for a night for a decade. Life is so cruel sometimes.
I'm sure she'll understand ;)

Joking aside, at least it'll be easy to avoid hearing the score.
posted by fullerine at 4:51 AM on June 29 [2 favorites]


The Guardian's preview of today's games is up on their pod. (39 minutes)
posted by wensink at 7:06 AM on June 29


So who's ready for Netherlands Mexico? Where/how are you watching, and what munchies have you got for the game? I have tomato and cheese pasta bake but it is microwave, so will be enjoying that at some point. Watching on the god-awful ITV, who should never be allowed near another sporting event ever.
posted by marienbad at 8:47 AM on June 29


I have ITV picture on, but with the sound off and listening to Metallica from Glastonbury last night. It works. Watching in my friends apartment in Loughborough, and I have some cut-price croissants from the Marks and Spencer bakery.
posted by Wordshore at 8:51 AM on June 29


Martin O'Neill has the air of a man permanently unhappy that he's one of the ITV pundits and wondering how his life came to this point.
posted by Wordshore at 8:53 AM on June 29


The Dutch national anthem sounds like they have put the British one, on a 33rpm record, on the stereo but played it at 45rpm.

The Mexico one is much more jolly. Lots of clashing cymbals and brief trumpet solos. Enjoyed that. Oh, an ad break. Again. I really loathe ITV.
posted by Wordshore at 8:57 AM on June 29


LOL That's true. In the comments on some Guardian World Cup article they were discussing ITV coverage, how awful Townsend is as a commentator, and the awfulness of Chiles and someone commented that "Fabio Cannavaro doesn't even bother to hide his dislike of Chiles anymore." Not noticed it as bad as that but it does seem a bit odd. Then again, the BBC punditry has been so-so. More Danny Murphy and Clarence Seedorf and Tim Vickery please.

Yeah, and all the ads are (as you say) way annoying, if you join a game late you still have to sit through about 2 mins even though the game is in progress.
posted by marienbad at 9:00 AM on June 29


Scoreline prediction?
posted by marienbad at 9:00 AM on June 29


Clarke Carlisle in the commentary box - excellent - I like him a lot - good analysis.
posted by marienbad at 9:00 AM on June 29


2-1
posted by Pendragon at 9:01 AM on June 29


Hedging your bets, Pendragon?
posted by marienbad at 9:03 AM on June 29


"look" gestures a team mate as another lame shot flies in
posted by marienbad at 9:05 AM on June 29


I think any result that does not result in Nigel de Jong executing a karate kick to an opposing player's chest is a good result.
posted by Dr. Zira at 9:05 AM on June 29 [3 favorites]


My God - Dirk Kuyt!
posted by marienbad at 9:05 AM on June 29 [2 favorites]


I know, right? Is Dirk Kuyt playing as a wing-back? That seems odd...

(I'm going to say 2-1 to the Netherlands, but possibly the heat will be an issue for them...)
posted by running order squabble fest at 9:06 AM on June 29


Hey I'm dutch, of course I'm going for a dutch victory :-)
posted by Pendragon at 9:06 AM on June 29


So ... any American MeFites out there watching this? Or is everyone over there saving themselves for the Belgique battle on Tuesday?
posted by Wordshore at 9:07 AM on June 29


No, it would be like an English person watching Scotland ;)
posted by marienbad at 9:08 AM on June 29


BBC: "Noticeable that as soon as the anthems were over, all of the Dutch players were straight over to get to their drinks. Hard to describe the heat inside this stadium. It hits you like a wall as soon as you walk out into it and it will certainly be a major factor this afternoon."
posted by marienbad at 9:10 AM on June 29


So here's my burning question....what is Garoto Garoto and is it any good?
posted by Dr. Zira at 9:12 AM on June 29


So ... any American MeFites out there watching this?

I'm watching & so's mbrubeck. (Though our daughter is not so enthused and may drag him away at some point.) We don't have any munchies around, but we just finished breakfast before the game started.
posted by Margalo Epps at 9:12 AM on June 29


90 degrees and high humidity, according to forecast.io

no thank u
posted by elizardbits at 9:13 AM on June 29


What's wrong with De Jong? I didn't catch the commentary.
posted by cerbous at 9:14 AM on June 29


I'm watching in the U.S.
posted by Area Man at 9:14 AM on June 29


"So here's my burning question...." Who or what is Marfrig?

Mexico look good, Herrera and Layun looking dangerous. Chicarito to come on and score the winner in 2nd half?
posted by marienbad at 9:15 AM on June 29


It's only 85 degrees and 68% humidity where I'm at and I don't even want to go outside to fetch the paper.
posted by Dr. Zira at 9:16 AM on June 29 [1 favorite]


Whoa! ace stuff from Mexico. Come on El Tri!
posted by marienbad at 9:17 AM on June 29


ref letting things flow nicely too. Hopefully both teams will use this to their advantage and it won't deteriorate.
posted by marienbad at 9:19 AM on June 29


I love the shots from the flying camera drone, but it's kind of distracting seeing its shadow flitting around the field.
posted by mbrubeck at 9:20 AM on June 29 [1 favorite]


Every time the overhead camera zooms by I expect one of the players to be sucked up into an alien tractor beam.
posted by elizardbits at 9:21 AM on June 29 [1 favorite]


The dutch are pulling shirts and going in with high feet.
posted by marienbad at 9:21 AM on June 29


Re: the heat. I follow a few thousand librarians on Twitter, and many of them are at the annual American Library Association conference, this year in Las Vegas. Number one complaint on social media: the heat. Number two complaint: people saying "but it's a dry heat".
posted by Wordshore at 9:24 AM on June 29


The heat will eventually count in Mexico's favour, surely. They love heat in Mexico: they actually invented the hot water bottle, because they felt their summers were too cold. True story. Or false - but definitely one of the two.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 9:29 AM on June 29


Drinks break Timeout!!! Will ITV show more adverts?
posted by marienbad at 9:31 AM on June 29


Cooling break! Mine's a beer, thanks.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 9:32 AM on June 29


I am in the U.S. and following on radio, and the commentators (Russ Dyer and Shep Messing) are doing a really good job of helping me follow even though I know next to nothing about football and can't actually see the game.
posted by lalex at 9:32 AM on June 29 [1 favorite]


Ochoa doesn't need a cooling break because he is already as cool as a cucumber.
posted by Dr. Zira at 9:32 AM on June 29


These cooling breaks are good, but what if they had a little bar on the side of the pitch, and the bartender was Henry Winkler, aka The Fonz? THAT would be the coolest. Wake up, FIFA!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 9:35 AM on June 29 [3 favorites]


Again, almost from Mexico. It is the final third where the ball is not good or the wrong decision is made.
posted by marienbad at 9:36 AM on June 29


"I should have managed my money better," sighs Winkler as he pours fruit juice over ice. "Ik heb geen idee wie je bent," replies Robin Van Persie as he heads the drink out of the Fonz's hands.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 9:39 AM on June 29 [3 favorites]


> So ... any American MeFites out there watching this?

I am, and rooting for my southern neighbors. Come on Mexico!
posted by languagehat at 9:42 AM on June 29


So when a player from Mexico gets into an argument with a player from the Netherlands, what language do they use to yell at each other?
posted by Dr. Zira at 9:43 AM on June 29


Esperanto.
posted by Pendragon at 9:44 AM on June 29


I think they just thumb wrestle.
posted by elizardbits at 9:45 AM on June 29 [1 favorite]


Esperanto.
posted by marienbad at 9:45 AM on June 29


That was a penalty!!
posted by Pendragon at 9:47 AM on June 29


Mexico's defense has been top shelf.
posted by Dr. Zira at 9:47 AM on June 29


Arjen Robben looks like a hit man from a Luc Besson film.
posted by Dr. Zira at 9:49 AM on June 29 [1 favorite]


Another couple people in the U.S. watching Mexico and Netherlands increasingly stagger around each other like sunstruck punch-drunk lugs.
posted by ardgedee at 9:49 AM on June 29


I hadn't noticed the extra time called and played because it felt like it'd all been spent trying to get Moreno into a basket.
posted by ardgedee at 9:51 AM on June 29


Mexico seem to be winning the midfield battle when they go forwards, but content to let the Dutch stroke the ball around when defending. Marquez has done a job on RVP, and both Robben and RVP not really had many chances or created much.

If you think this is a slow game, imagine how slow it will be in Qatar !
posted by marienbad at 9:53 AM on June 29


This game is the best example why a world cup in Qatar is a bad idea.
posted by Pendragon at 9:55 AM on June 29


Arjen Robben looks like a hit man from a Luc Besson film.

And he looks 10 yrs older than he really is, easily. Hard to believe Robben's just 30...
posted by travelwithcats at 9:58 AM on June 29 [1 favorite]


If you think this is a slow game, imagine how slow it will be in Qatar !


Although that will at least be livened up by people collapsing on the pitch from heat prostration!
posted by running order squabble fest at 9:59 AM on June 29


I assumed shade would be provided by the spectral miasma of dead stadium builders' souls.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 10:00 AM on June 29 [3 favorites]


> Where/how are you watching, and what munchies have you got for the game?

I made a trip out to a roadside stand and got us a couple huaraches and sopas variously topped with asada, barbacoa, and chorizo.

They had a TV tuned to Univision in the kitchen, and I asked the owner whether they had the game on. He wanted to know which team I was supporting, and... well, I just want a good game, really.

There was a sudden long queue at the counter after I ordered, which held up their getting my food out, so I missed the first eight minutes of the game. But the food was awesome as usual. And now that it's been put away, we're slowly working on the horchata and tamarindo they make from scratch.

Further questions?
posted by ardgedee at 10:02 AM on June 29


38.8 degrees highest pitchside temp during first half!
posted by marienbad at 10:05 AM on June 29


GOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAALLLLL!!!!!!
posted by Dr. Zira at 10:08 AM on June 29


GDS! Its there! Oh dear holland!
posted by marienbad at 10:08 AM on June 29


Great goal Dos Santos! Outta nowhere!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 10:09 AM on June 29


It's not quite the same when the announcer wasn't paying attention so there's like a five second delay between the goal and GGGOOOOAAAAALLLLLLL.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 10:09 AM on June 29


I have to say, if the Netherlands don't do something, that might be the winning goal. And they look really hot and out of sorts...

(38.8 celsius is a little under 102 degrees fahrenheit, which wow.)
posted by running order squabble fest at 10:09 AM on June 29


> I have to say, if the Netherlands don't do something, that might be the winning goal. And they look really hot and out of sorts...

Agreed. It was the sort of shot that Holland's goalie had stopped in the first round. He's just not fast enough now.
posted by ardgedee at 10:12 AM on June 29


Have to say, there was no call for the spray foam around the ball for that free kick. Terrible abuse of foam-spraying power by the ref.
posted by running order squabble fest at 10:13 AM on June 29


Yeah, it's hot. I almost feel guilty eating my black sesame ice cream.
posted by travelwithcats at 10:13 AM on June 29


{watches spray foam being applied to the pitch}
{dreams of being back in Ohio and squirting easy cheese straight from the can into my mouth}
{mmmmmmm, American cuisine. Sigh....}
posted by Wordshore at 10:17 AM on June 29


It is FIFA's rules, running order, anywhere around the box and the spray has to be used to mark where the ball goes as well as a line for the wall.

The heat is a serious issue for the dutch, need to score asap really. Wonder how Van Gaal will handle defeat?

Oh my god Ochoa! yet again another reaction save!
posted by marienbad at 10:17 AM on June 29


Ochoa, Mexico's goalie, is dressed in black shirt and socks, orange shoes, red shorts and white gloves. His hair is black.

From a distance he looks like Mickey Mouse.
posted by ardgedee at 10:18 AM on June 29


Yeah, Ochoa is absolutely amazing.
posted by languagehat at 10:19 AM on June 29


Ochoa, you are my dreamiest Mexican ever.
posted by lizarrd at 10:19 AM on June 29


Not a Mickey Mouse performance in the slightest, though. The man's amazing!
posted by ardgedee at 10:19 AM on June 29


The wonderfully-named Memphis DePay's arrival seems to have perked up the Dutch...
posted by running order squabble fest at 10:20 AM on June 29


It looks from a distance as though Ochoa is wearing a little red skirt!
posted by marienbad at 10:21 AM on June 29 [2 favorites]


The Netherlands definitely look desperate, but still controlled. I wonder where Chicharrito is?
posted by lizarrd at 10:23 AM on June 29


benched
posted by elizardbits at 10:23 AM on June 29


The Dutch have been on top since that counter-attack. Think they know they need to score sooner rather than later.
posted by marienbad at 10:25 AM on June 29


The score would be 4-1 if Mexico's goal were two meters to the left.
posted by ardgedee at 10:25 AM on June 29 [2 favorites]


Dutch set pieces are scary.
posted by Dr. Zira at 10:30 AM on June 29


a bit casual from mexico and the dutch have another attack.
posted by marienbad at 10:34 AM on June 29


Ochoa saves Mexico's ass again.
posted by languagehat at 10:34 AM on June 29


Robben could have held onto that and gone over that challenge for a penalty, I think. Or he could have passed...
posted by running order squabble fest at 10:35 AM on June 29


they take van Persie off?!
posted by Dumsnill at 10:36 AM on June 29


Huntelaar on for Holland - desperate times.
posted by marienbad at 10:36 AM on June 29


Oooh. Threatening stuff from the Dutch. I've run some numbers here, and on my rough calculation, Holland need to score ... 1 goal, to tie it up. But check the maths there, I could be wrong.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 10:36 AM on June 29


And Chicarito is on for Mexico. Which forward will make the difference (if any) in this heat?
posted by marienbad at 10:37 AM on June 29 [1 favorite]


104 degrees oh my god
posted by elizardbits at 10:38 AM on June 29


Chicharito! Yay...and holy crap, I don't even know how they're standing.
posted by lizarrd at 10:38 AM on June 29


And the Mexican coach is keeping his suit jacket on. Maybe it's cooler in the shade.
posted by needled at 10:41 AM on June 29


My CPU is overheating in sympathy for the players.
posted by benito.strauss at 10:41 AM on June 29


> on my rough calculation, Holland need to score ... 1 goal, to tie it up.

That's by your hegemonic imperialistic Western mathematics.
posted by languagehat at 10:41 AM on June 29 [1 favorite]


I hereby nominate Miguel Herrera's antiperspirant for the Ballon d'Or.
posted by Dr. Zira at 10:43 AM on June 29


fuck.ing. hell!! Ochoa is unreal.
posted by marienbad at 10:45 AM on June 29


Now I've read the Mickey Mouse comment, I cannot unsee it. Thanks, Metafilter.
posted by kariebookish at 10:45 AM on June 29 [1 favorite]


And the outstanding Herrera gives the ball away in a dangerous position.
posted by marienbad at 10:46 AM on June 29


Ochoa is still my pick for Golden Gloves. Although, I gotta give some credit to Tim Howard.
posted by lizarrd at 10:46 AM on June 29


Yeah, Mexico absolutely has to be able to keep control of the ball.
posted by languagehat at 10:47 AM on June 29


Hell and damnation.
posted by languagehat at 10:47 AM on June 29


Oh my!
posted by Dumsnill at 10:47 AM on June 29


This is a different Dutch side since Depay came on.

Its there!! Snieder!
posted by marienbad at 10:47 AM on June 29


Damnation. Another 30 minutes of this.
posted by kariebookish at 10:48 AM on June 29


Damn those Dutch set pieces.
posted by Dr. Zira at 10:48 AM on June 29


God, that was unstoppable.
posted by running order squabble fest at 10:48 AM on June 29


OH HO! 1 ALL! WHOSE IMPERIALIST WESTERN MATHS HAS CALCULATED AN EQUALITY OF NUMERICAL QUANTITIES NOW!?
posted by the quidnunc kid at 10:48 AM on June 29


These freaking corner kicks are making me so nervous. If I bit my nails, I would. DAMNIT NO!
posted by lizarrd at 10:48 AM on June 29


My god, Ochoa can't stop all shots after all! I am gobsmacked!
posted by ardgedee at 10:48 AM on June 29


If this goes to a shootout I am gonna need another drink.
posted by Dr. Zira at 10:50 AM on June 29


Both sides just wanted to play extra time because they're having so much fun in the sun today!
posted by ardgedee at 10:50 AM on June 29 [1 favorite]


(That also justifies van Gaal taking RVP off for the more... aerial Huntelaar...)
posted by running order squabble fest at 10:51 AM on June 29


Penalty!
posted by Dumsnill at 10:51 AM on June 29


NO way!! Its a penalty to Holland.
posted by marienbad at 10:52 AM on June 29


PENALTY. Jesus.
posted by kariebookish at 10:52 AM on June 29


Such a dive, but he should've had at least 2 others.
posted by fullerine at 10:52 AM on June 29


ESPN announcer: "Arjen van Robben goes down very easily."
posted by languagehat at 10:53 AM on June 29


FUUUUUUUUUUUUDDDDDGGGEEEEE
posted by Dr. Zira at 10:53 AM on June 29


And Mexico's out. Shit.
posted by languagehat at 10:53 AM on June 29 [1 favorite]


Unfortunately Huntelaar scores.
posted by marienbad at 10:54 AM on June 29


Fuck, that's a horrible way of deciding this match,
posted by Dumsnill at 10:54 AM on June 29


He's been looking for a penalty for a long, long time. Not convinced by any of them, but the ref has been lax with penalising dives, alas.
posted by kariebookish at 10:54 AM on June 29 [1 favorite]


90 seconds to equalize!
posted by ardgedee at 10:55 AM on June 29


I... disagree. Robben knocked the ball on, and the defender put a foot out. He could possibly have kept his feet, but he would have been held up and lost control of the ball if the referee hadn't seen it. And it was a foul in the box whether or not he stayed up.
posted by running order squabble fest at 10:55 AM on June 29


That sucked.
posted by shothotbot at 10:55 AM on June 29


ESPN announcer: "The Netherlands had something inside them, and they squeezed it out."
posted by languagehat at 10:55 AM on June 29


...and the award for best flop goes to Robben. Thank you, Netherlands, for taking out Mexico in such a horrible way. You beat the Italians at being the floppiest.
posted by lizarrd at 10:55 AM on June 29


By God, Mexico almost tied it!
posted by ardgedee at 10:56 AM on June 29


> ESPN announcer: "The Netherlands had something inside them, and they squeezed it out."

Oranj on the outside, oranj on the inside.
posted by ardgedee at 10:57 AM on June 29 [1 favorite]


Its over - Hollande are through to the quarters. You've got to feel for Mexico after the way they played today.
posted by marienbad at 10:57 AM on June 29


That was not a deserved victory, but such is the game at times.
posted by kariebookish at 10:57 AM on June 29


The dutch had the better second half.
posted by Pendragon at 10:57 AM on June 29


Another heartbreaker. Three cheers for Mexico, that was a harsh way to lose it.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 10:58 AM on June 29 [2 favorites]


I despise Robben but he could've had two nailed on penalties from Marques alone.
posted by fullerine at 10:58 AM on June 29 [1 favorite]


OK, I hate this game.
posted by lalex at 10:58 AM on June 29


Has anyone seen possession stats for the second half?
posted by Dr. Zira at 10:58 AM on June 29


I.. disagree. Robben knocked the ball on, and the defender put a foot out. He could possibly have kept his feet, but he would have been held up and lost control of the ball if the referee hadn't seen it. And it was a foul in the box whether or not he stayed up.

He was diving the moment he saw Rafa Marques approaching. He was going down before Marques's foot went down. That was a dive whether or not he would've been held up. Try to stay up and not go down or cheat. So he chose to cheat.
posted by lizarrd at 10:59 AM on June 29


After the group play, Costa Rica is who I want to go all the way. Thinking they should be able to manage Greece at least.
posted by edgeways at 10:59 AM on June 29


> ...the ref has been lax with penalising dives, alas.

Equally lax with penalizing fouls too, you should admit. No bookings for either side until well into the second half.
posted by ardgedee at 11:00 AM on June 29 [1 favorite]


He was already in the air, yeah.
posted by elizardbits at 11:00 AM on June 29


Pendragon, it seems to be full of Mexico fans tonight, sorry mate. The dutch were better in the 2nd half, but needed to be. Too many dives and niggly stuff from them so far this tournament, and after the 2010 final they have a lot to atone for.
posted by marienbad at 11:02 AM on June 29


Costa Rica vs Greece will be either truly exciting (if CR dominates) or deadly dull (if GR get their way). I need coffee to fortify me.
posted by kariebookish at 11:02 AM on June 29


Here's to hoping Costa Rica beats Greece and then crushes the Oranj and makes wonderful, delicious juice.
posted by lizarrd at 11:02 AM on June 29 [2 favorites]


At least the dutch don't do karate kicks anymore :-)
posted by Pendragon at 11:03 AM on June 29 [3 favorites]


OK, I hate this game.

Remember that the heartbreak of football is just God's way of saying to us:

"NYAAH NYAAH NYAAH I'M GOD AND I'M A BIG ASSHOLE, SO THERE!"

I believe that He speaks in a quiet voice in our hearts, but He speaks to us nonetheless.

Also: he's an asshole.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 11:04 AM on June 29 [2 favorites]


Replay of Robben - it so looks like simulation in slow-mo.
posted by marienbad at 11:05 AM on June 29


Now, now, Pendragon. De Jong was only on the pitch for 9 minutes this time.. don't ask too much of him ;)
posted by kariebookish at 11:05 AM on June 29 [1 favorite]


Hmm. I think there's a difference between simulation and assiduously attempting to avoid getting the person fouling you into trouble. Robben played it up, definitely, but it was a poor challenge. Of the three falls in the box he made that I saw, I'd say that was the second most credible.
posted by running order squabble fest at 11:07 AM on June 29


I think Fox News could probably do better football coverage than ITV.
It's embarrassing.
posted by fullerine at 11:08 AM on June 29


I'm still embarrassed by our (the dutch) behavior 4 years ago.
posted by Pendragon at 11:10 AM on June 29 [1 favorite]


Robben should be be banned from all future international competition.
posted by Dumsnill at 11:11 AM on June 29


Robben should be be banned from all future international competition.

Hamburger ?
posted by Pendragon at 11:15 AM on June 29


Huh. Ochoa is a free agent at the moment, after his French club was relegated? That performance must have put a couple of thousand a week on his next contract...
posted by running order squabble fest at 11:16 AM on June 29 [1 favorite]


Or at least be forced to wear some sort of glare-reducing cosmetic on his large and majestic forehead.
posted by elizardbits at 11:16 AM on June 29 [2 favorites]


Not really. Did you watch the slo-mo?
posted by Dumsnill at 11:17 AM on June 29


Huh. Ochoa is a free agent at the moment, after his French club was relegated? That performance must have put a couple of thousand a week on his next contract...
Is there a league which doesn't allow corners?
posted by fullerine at 11:18 AM on June 29 [1 favorite]


Has there been word on why de Jong had to leave early? Did he get a bad case of The Vapors?
posted by Dr. Zira at 11:18 AM on June 29


I watched the slo-mo, did you see the slo-mo from the first half ? That was definitely a penalty for Robben.

And if you think a Schwalbe is reason for a ban, then you're crazy.
posted by Pendragon at 11:19 AM on June 29


He (Ochao) was okay with most of the corners, and the rest were poor pretty much apart from the Huntelaar head on for Sneijder.

The commentator mentioned something but was out of room and couldn't hear properly, but I think there was something about de Jong going to the hospital recently, maybe yesterday.
posted by marienbad at 11:21 AM on June 29


de Jong had a groin injury.
posted by Pendragon at 11:22 AM on June 29


I think that kind of acting should just get you thrown out of the game for good. I know that's not very realistic, so yeah crazy.
posted by Dumsnill at 11:24 AM on June 29


Not very realistic, no. Within a year a quarter of all players would be banned. It's just part of the game.
posted by Pendragon at 11:26 AM on June 29


I know.
posted by Dumsnill at 11:27 AM on June 29


And even if they introduced retroactive red and yellow cards post-match for simulation and stuff, well even the experts are divided on whether something is a dive or a penalty, so how do you make the final decision?
posted by marienbad at 11:28 AM on June 29


And honestly guys, considering the mods concern over modding liveblogs of games, this disagreement over whether it was a dive or a penalty has got to be one of the most civilised arguments I have ever seen on mefi! See you all in about an hour for the Big Match, the Mighty Greece, vs the Mighty Costa Rica.
posted by marienbad at 11:30 AM on June 29


And even if they introduced retroactive red and yellow cards post-match for simulation and stuff, well even the experts are divided on whether something is a dive or a penalty, so how do you make the final decision?

It's a denalty/pive. Goal stands, everyone gets a yellow! Assuming, of course, that you can't make a decision after watching the video anyway. True, here's hoping for Los Ticos.
posted by lizarrd at 11:35 AM on June 29




And honestly guys, considering the mods concern over modding liveblogs of games, this disagreement over whether it was a dive or a penalty has got to be one of the most civilised arguments I have ever seen on mefi!

Reading between the lines after a conversation with mods, I suspect (as they were too careful to say) that they don't really mind the liveblogging of World Cup stuff so long as it doesn't sprawl and stays in one thread (hence created this one) and it's good natured and stuff. In other words, it requires little modding and generates no complaint or flagging, especially with there being thinner mod coverage across the whole MetaFilter Universe.

It's partially because of the good-natured banter in this thread and metafilter that I'm following the World Cup. Some online things seem to be a good fit for real world things. Twitter and Eurovision, definitely. The World Cup and MetaFilter, quite possibly.

Anyway, between matches so time to cautiously venture out into the wild Sunday evening lands of Loughborough, middle England.
posted by Wordshore at 12:02 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


I have to visit the zoo this afternoon when I'd rather be watching Costa Rica. It seemed for a while that a thunderstorm would save me, but no such luck. I will be reduced to checking the score on my phone.

I have been holding a grudge against the Ticos for everything that happened the last time the U.S. men played down there (not providing them with a practice space, not providing them with balls, cab drivers trying to create a traffic jam in an attempt to prevent them from getting to the stadium, a ridiculously phony flop, and a man in a cow suit with a air horn trying to disrupt practice), but I've decided to root for Costa Rica anyways. Greece is no fun and it is time for some CONCACAF solidarity.
posted by Area Man at 12:06 PM on June 29 [2 favorites]


a man in a cow suit with a air horn trying to disrupt practice

Wait, really?

Huh.
posted by running order squabble fest at 12:27 PM on June 29


Costa Ricans are clearly fans of classic knock-knock jokes.
posted by ursus_comiter at 12:39 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]




Jesus, how many yellows has Greece racked up? They're still on play right? So if one of those yellows gets another yellow it counts as a red?
posted by lizarrd at 1:01 PM on June 29


The Guardian is in top form:

Tonight's referee is … Benjamin Williams of Australia. His assistants are Hakan Anaz and Matt Cream, who has romped to the Linesman Who Mosts Sounds Like A Tin Of Paint award.
posted by languagehat at 1:03 PM on June 29


Only two yellow cards in the same game is a red card.
posted by Pendragon at 1:04 PM on June 29


Just got ITV working, watched the requisite minutes of adverts even though game had started. yeah I am going to bitch about it regualrly!
posted by marienbad at 1:05 PM on June 29


Hello, all.

Listened to Mexico-Netherlands on the drive back, watching now.

Only two yellow cards in the same game is a red card.

But if you have had a yellow before this game, a yellow this game means you're ineligible for the next match. All those reset after the quarterfinals.
posted by eriko at 1:07 PM on June 29


So, attackers v defenders then. Who will triumph? No one with shots like that!
posted by marienbad at 1:08 PM on June 29


Wow, I see we have Yet Another Day Of Fluorescent Goalies. What are we calling these two?
posted by eriko at 1:11 PM on June 29


Is it me or do Costa Rica seem nervous, not themselves?
posted by marienbad at 1:13 PM on June 29


Costa Rica's goalie is Olive. Really a shame that he's not the Greek goalie. The Greek goalie is Banana.

And since we know a banana is horrible in a martini, I'm rooting for CR.
posted by eriko at 1:13 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


eriko: "Wow, I see we have Yet Another Day Of Fluorescent Goalies. What are we calling these two?"

If we don't start referring to Greece's goalkeep as "Banana" so someone can say "GO BANANA" it will be an opportunity squandered.
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:14 PM on June 29


Greece is definitely playing better right now. Nervous is the perfect word for CR now.
posted by eriko at 1:15 PM on June 29


Jurgen Klinsmann gets trolled by a cow, and it’s awesome

Includes video footage of cow-man-troll exasperating Klinsmann.
posted by ardgedee at 1:16 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


I bet Sokratis will be

(wait for it)

asking some tough questions of the Costa Rican defence.
posted by running order squabble fest at 1:16 PM on June 29 [4 favorites]


> And since we know a banana is horrible in a martini

but neither belongs on a pizza.
posted by ardgedee at 1:17 PM on June 29


Costa Rica's goalie is Olive. Really a shame that he's not the Greek goalie. The Greek goalie is Banana.

Given that olives grow in Greece and bananas grow in Costa Rica, I wonder if there was a uniform mixup.
posted by A dead Quaker at 1:17 PM on June 29


Costa Rica seems to be settling down. Much better touches in the last couple of minutes.
posted by eriko at 1:21 PM on June 29


ITV - Campbell back to Arsenal after WC. CR playing a bit better now
posted by marienbad at 1:22 PM on June 29


I'm only paying half attention to the game, actually, but am I right in concluding from what little I've seen that Greece has successfully put weighted radio collars on all the Costa Ricans to throw them off their stride and confound their intuitions?
posted by ardgedee at 1:22 PM on June 29


Just heard "cinco ticos" on Univision.
posted by eriko at 1:23 PM on June 29


And, hey, the spanish for "Oops!" is "Oops!"
posted by eriko at 1:24 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


The announcer is quite fluent with all the Greek names. Kudos announcer!
posted by shothotbot at 1:26 PM on June 29


They need the two extra linesmen behind each goal to keep an eye on things. As the ref set up the wall they were pushing and shoving. And while he sorted that out, the wall shuffled forwards a few inches.
posted by marienbad at 1:26 PM on June 29


Yeah, so far I'm not seeing the Greek team's actions being observed by the same people whose razor-sharp vision and clear thought had made the verdict of the Robben/Marquez intersection so obvious.
posted by ardgedee at 1:31 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


fucking hell samaras and samaris, how do you not understand offside?
posted by marienbad at 1:32 PM on June 29


It's feeling a bit, what?, slippery, not quite clean already at 30 minutes, tied. I wonder how it will get as pressure mounts.
posted by benito.strauss at 1:34 PM on June 29


slow and not pretty so far, and that was a lousy ball over the top,
posted by marienbad at 1:34 PM on June 29


I have a lot of empathy for people like Karagounis and Colombia's Mario Yepes. They're about my own age, running around trying to keep up with people 15 years younger than them. You can see on Karagounis' face how much it all hurts.
posted by brokkr at 1:35 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


Yeah, that one looked yellow from the start.
posted by eriko at 1:36 PM on June 29


Woah, that was a good save by Olive, who's not sure exactly how he made it.
posted by eriko at 1:37 PM on June 29


FUUU
posted by ersatz at 1:38 PM on June 29


*Super* good cross, as well.
posted by running order squabble fest at 1:38 PM on June 29


What a run by Samaras, completely missed.

And holy Moly - Navas just saves with his leg. Finally - some action!
posted by marienbad at 1:38 PM on June 29


Again the greeks wander offside.
posted by marienbad at 1:40 PM on June 29


Costa Rica is losing the thread again. Too many long fast balls that either miss or aren't controllable.
posted by eriko at 1:40 PM on June 29


I have never eaten an olive that color. Why isn't he "The Lime"? Are we tired of citrus?
posted by benito.strauss at 1:40 PM on June 29


We used Lime yesterday.
posted by eriko at 1:42 PM on June 29


This goalie's uniform more closely matches the color of the lime in my drink than yesterday's goalie uniform did.
posted by ardgedee at 1:43 PM on June 29


Greece is the only team this WC that got through to the second round with an overall negative goal difference.
posted by Pendragon at 1:43 PM on June 29


Thought that might be a red for a second but the other defender was covering. I have a horrible feeling Greece are going to nick this one.
posted by marienbad at 1:43 PM on June 29


Although we could be equitable and call them Green Banana and Yellow Banana.
posted by ardgedee at 1:44 PM on June 29


Ticos? What are you doing? Get into it guys, get into it.
posted by lizarrd at 1:44 PM on June 29


Am I the only one rooting for Greece here?
posted by brokkr at 1:45 PM on June 29


We could go with Guacamole and Banana.
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:45 PM on June 29


Banana and plantain?
posted by shothotbot at 1:46 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


Seeing as he is wearing green with yellow boots surely we should call him Kumquat?
posted by marienbad at 1:46 PM on June 29


I'm with you, brokkr. Any team managed by Anthony Bourdain's older brother is a team for me.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 1:47 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


brokkr - I am neutral but am technically rooting for Costa Rica.
posted by marienbad at 1:47 PM on June 29


Kumquat works for me.
posted by languagehat at 1:47 PM on June 29


Unripe Banana and Ripe Banana.
posted by eriko at 1:47 PM on June 29


Why is ripeness the privileged class?
posted by shothotbot at 1:48 PM on June 29


Am I the only one rooting for Greece here?

I am rooting for Costa Rica because us North Americans need revenge after the Mexico/Netherlands game. Not that I am still watching this no-good terrible stupid sport.
posted by lalex at 1:48 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


On the one hand, I admire the way Greece's organization and teamwork can cancel out more talented, ball-passing sides.

On the other, it does make the matches they play in very dull for long periods...
posted by running order squabble fest at 1:48 PM on June 29


There's no one in the fucking box for Costa Rica. And there is HT.
posted by marienbad at 1:48 PM on June 29


Well, that was an uninspiring half there.
posted by eriko at 1:48 PM on June 29


Gotta root for Team Interrupting COwS.
posted by ursus_comiter at 1:49 PM on June 29 [2 favorites]


Are we obligated to use fruit? I would rather think of them as Schoolbus and 1970s Refrigerator.
posted by ardgedee at 1:49 PM on June 29


I am feeling a vendetta against greece ever since the mouldy yogurt trauma I experienced last week.

THE SELL BY DATE CLEARLY SAID JUNE 30 WHY DID YOU BETRAY ME
posted by elizardbits at 1:49 PM on June 29 [2 favorites]


Half time. When Costa Rica come back out I bet they'll find a wooden horse on the pitch, but no Greeks. And they'll say: "Oh, they've given up! Let's drag this large wooden horse into our penalty box to celebrate". I have a feeling that could be a mistake.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 1:50 PM on June 29 [16 favorites]


I'm leaning toward Greece because I'm still feeling a bit grudgy about the previous unpleasantness following the Snow Game, but I will be happy if either advance because CONCACAF.
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:51 PM on June 29


How about Green River?
posted by ursus_comiter at 1:51 PM on June 29


Well, I'm certainly rooting for Greece. Thankfully Campbell is playing as a 9, whereas he's better when he plays deeper. It looks to me like Greece is playing better so far and I'm optimistic if we go on like this. Our playmaker, Karagounis, will be getting tired around 60' so let's seehow that goes. Hell, I haven't seen that much passing forwards from our side forever
posted by ersatz at 1:53 PM on June 29


There's a Samaras and a Samaris on the Greek team? Is this like that homoousios versus homoiousios thing?
posted by benito.strauss at 1:54 PM on June 29


Also, we should all root for Greece so that this can happen.
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:58 PM on June 29


I'm not sure, did either play for the Greek national team ;)
posted by marienbad at 1:59 PM on June 29


ursus_comiter: I suspect many Americans will not associate Green River with anything pleasant.
posted by ardgedee at 2:00 PM on June 29


There was an advert for Costa Rica at half-time on ITV!
posted by marienbad at 2:00 PM on June 29


Also, I am rooting for The Kraken over The Bacardis because The Kraken is less whiny.
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:01 PM on June 29


Did it feature a gentleman in a cow suit?
posted by ardgedee at 2:01 PM on June 29


I'm rooting for Costa Rica, they came out on top against 3 ex world cup winners!
posted by travelwithcats at 2:02 PM on June 29


I was/am rooting for Costa Rica but I think this shall be the first game of the WC I'm giving up on.
posted by kariebookish at 2:06 PM on June 29


Yeah, I think that was reckless enough for a yellow.
posted by eriko at 2:08 PM on June 29


Karagounis sure can act, looks like a greek tragedy.
posted by Pendragon at 2:09 PM on June 29


I think Gamboa nutmeged himself. That's....unimpressive.
posted by eriko at 2:09 PM on June 29


> I suspect many Americans will not associate Green River with anything pleasant.

I do.
posted by languagehat at 2:09 PM on June 29


Tejeda's first name is Yeltsin. Let's all think about that for a moment. Yeltsin.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 2:10 PM on June 29


The great dictator is watching the game, I see.
posted by Pendragon at 2:11 PM on June 29


Sepp Blatter's nose is secure.
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:11 PM on June 29


That was a banana slip! GOAAAAAAALLLLLLL!
posted by eriko at 2:12 PM on June 29


What a goal....
posted by Pendragon at 2:12 PM on June 29


YeeeeeeeeeeessSSSSSSsssss!!!!!!!!!!!
posted by marienbad at 2:12 PM on June 29


COSTA RICA DRIVES THROUGH THE WALL
posted by ardgedee at 2:12 PM on June 29


oh yeah!
posted by Dumsnill at 2:12 PM on June 29


Oh ffs
posted by ersatz at 2:12 PM on June 29


> Tejeda's first name is Yeltsin. Let's all think about that for a moment. Yeltsin.

Does he drink too much and let his nation's economy go to rack and ruin?
posted by languagehat at 2:13 PM on June 29


goal!
posted by travelwithcats at 2:13 PM on June 29


its a miss-hit grasscutter, but it counts!
posted by marienbad at 2:13 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


In other news: thank god, someone found the net!
posted by languagehat at 2:13 PM on June 29


He scored that goal like I cook brisket. Slow and low.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 2:13 PM on June 29 [2 favorites]


Damn, that was a lucky shot.
posted by brokkr at 2:14 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


Greece have got to do something and I can see more Costa Rican goals. Lets hope!
posted by marienbad at 2:15 PM on June 29


That should have been a penalty.
posted by Pendragon at 2:15 PM on June 29


Oh good. It's still technically possible that Costa Rica and the USA will face-off in the Semi Finals. Which would be entertaining.

Especially if it snowed.
posted by Wordshore at 2:15 PM on June 29 [2 favorites]


Bench Card. Wonder what he called the ref's mother?
posted by eriko at 2:16 PM on June 29


The hand of Zeus.
posted by benito.strauss at 2:16 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


Wow, how many cards now?
posted by marienbad at 2:16 PM on June 29


Worse things could happen! Like an equalizer from Greece.
posted by ardgedee at 2:16 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


I can't wait to see Campbell in red and white.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 2:17 PM on June 29


Samaris, who has forgotten the offsides rule one too many times, is subbed off for Mitroglou.
posted by eriko at 2:18 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


I'd never seen benched players get carded in a World Cup game, and now I've seen it happen in both games today. Have the players gotten lippy all of a sudden, or has Mr. Blatter's presence mandated a display of stern authority among the refs?
posted by ardgedee at 2:19 PM on June 29


I think the Greek Coach should be the next Doctor.
posted by eriko at 2:20 PM on June 29


The good news is Mitroglou wasn't offsides! The bad news is Salpingidis was.
posted by eriko at 2:22 PM on June 29 [3 favorites]


The Costa Rica Manager has his own website (in Spanish)
posted by marienbad at 2:22 PM on June 29


Do they even know the rules? Offside from a throw-in at end of first half is fucking appalling.
posted by marienbad at 2:23 PM on June 29


Actually, I think the Greek Coach should replace Jeremy Clarkson on Top Gear.
posted by eriko at 2:23 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


Yeltsin subbed! Never thought I'd get to say that.
posted by marienbad at 2:26 PM on June 29


Holy Shit, Duarte off!!
posted by marienbad at 2:26 PM on June 29


ooooh red card
posted by elizardbits at 2:26 PM on June 29


Red card! Jesus
posted by Dumsnill at 2:26 PM on June 29


did not want
posted by elizardbits at 2:26 PM on June 29


Duarte just got screwed there, and CR is now in real trouble.
posted by eriko at 2:26 PM on June 29


RED!
posted by travelwithcats at 2:26 PM on June 29


Duarte off! This should presumably inspire relentless cross-field attacking from Greece...
posted by running order squabble fest at 2:26 PM on June 29


Duarte! You jackass!
posted by ardgedee at 2:26 PM on June 29


marienbad: "Do they even know the rules? Offside from a throw-in at end of first half is fucking appalling."
Do you even know the rules? :) You can't be offside on a throw-in.
posted by brokkr at 2:27 PM on June 29


Stupid foul, especially if you already have a yellow card.
posted by Pendragon at 2:27 PM on June 29


COME ON THE TEN MEN!
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 2:27 PM on June 29


Can they hold out for fifteen minutes?
posted by languagehat at 2:27 PM on June 29


Our bench is out of midfielders though
posted by ersatz at 2:27 PM on June 29


Costa Rica's #22 covered himself in his own backwash before coming on, so I think they'l be okay.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 2:28 PM on June 29


Definite foul by Greece, definite exaggeration by Costa Rica.
posted by eriko at 2:28 PM on June 29


These are going to be really painful final minutes.
posted by ardgedee at 2:28 PM on June 29


Salpingidis, who also has shown a remarkable unfamiliarity with the offsides rule, is also subbed off.
posted by eriko at 2:28 PM on June 29


ardgedee: "I'd never seen benched players get carded in a World Cup game, and now I've seen it happen in both games today."
Liassine Cadamuro on Algeria's bench was also yellow carded for time wasting during stoppage time against Russia.
posted by brokkr at 2:29 PM on June 29


This match should be a great opportunity for Classics majors.
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:29 PM on June 29


OK OK OK, Los Ticos just make this work just make this work. I can't stand another Central American country going out today.
posted by lizarrd at 2:29 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


Awful goalkeeping from Navas there.
posted by brokkr at 2:31 PM on June 29


Come on Greeeece
posted by ersatz at 2:31 PM on June 29


This is getting ugly.
posted by Pendragon at 2:32 PM on June 29


While the Greeks have suddenly remembered the direction the ball is supposed to go, they're still hazy on where to put it when it gets there.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 2:32 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


CR will be drawing fouls now I guess, seeing as one or two Greeks are on yellows.

(yeah, sorry, for some reason I thought the throw-in/offside rule had been changed!)
posted by marienbad at 2:32 PM on June 29


Is this football or a game of 52 Pickup?
posted by ardgedee at 2:32 PM on June 29


Stupid foul by Manolas there.
posted by eriko at 2:33 PM on June 29


What's with all the time-wasting going on.
posted by needled at 2:33 PM on June 29


This is nerve racking now that CR are down to 10. Need a Greek player to get sent off to even it up again. And a poor free kick there.
posted by marienbad at 2:34 PM on June 29


No ref is going to say anything if the team that's losing is wasting time. That's a self-punishing foul.
posted by eriko at 2:34 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


Close, but not close enough. CR are hanging on...
posted by marienbad at 2:35 PM on June 29


Greece will drive pretty fucking hard now, CR hoping to keep things very very very very slow in midfield.
posted by Dumsnill at 2:35 PM on June 29


Both of these teams will have a hard time against the dutch.
posted by Pendragon at 2:36 PM on June 29


The Greeks are atrocious at long passes.
posted by brokkr at 2:36 PM on June 29


Let's hope CR can hang onto the ball better than Mexico.
posted by languagehat at 2:36 PM on June 29


Oh God, Brazil Colombia is on ITV.
posted by marienbad at 2:37 PM on June 29


Already?
posted by brokkr at 2:38 PM on June 29


That's it for Greek subs. I think CR has one more left.
posted by eriko at 2:38 PM on June 29


Good thing Suarez isn't here. I don't think he could resist the bananas and greek subs.
posted by eriko at 2:38 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


What's the US equivalent, that you say "Oh god, not ..." when the games are on?

Yet another Greek free kick.
posted by marienbad at 2:39 PM on June 29


Excellently played for the free kick there by Karagounis.

Lacking on the finish though.
posted by brokkr at 2:39 PM on June 29


> Already?

ITV were announcing the quarter final games they're broadcasting.
posted by ardgedee at 2:39 PM on June 29


Skies it!
posted by marienbad at 2:39 PM on June 29


What a brilliant free kick! OH WAIT THIS ISN'T RUGBY THAT SUCKED!
posted by eriko at 2:40 PM on June 29


BEND IT LIKE BECKHAM.
Victoria Beckham
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:41 PM on June 29


You know, Costa Rica, you keep giving up those fouls just outside the box, you're going to pay...
posted by eriko at 2:41 PM on June 29


To the moon!!!
posted by Pendragon at 2:41 PM on June 29




That was a much better effort by Greece.
posted by eriko at 2:41 PM on June 29


> What's the US equivalent, that you say "Oh god, not ..." when the games are on?

Bob Costas.
posted by ardgedee at 2:42 PM on June 29 [2 favorites]


Okay, I was right, Costa Rica had one more sub.
posted by eriko at 2:43 PM on June 29


Man, whoever paid for that Suarez ad on the bus shelter has gotten 100 * the publicity they paid for.
posted by marienbad at 2:45 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


That was a mistake. Costa Rica had a real attack going, blasting it in actually saved Greece time.
posted by eriko at 2:45 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


5 minutes... CR will be nervous after what happened to Mexico earlier
posted by marienbad at 2:45 PM on June 29


There you go, CR.
posted by eriko at 2:46 PM on June 29


CR tried to be clever and Greece was *not* fooled at all.
posted by eriko at 2:47 PM on June 29


Nice save from Limolivanana!
posted by eriko at 2:47 PM on June 29


God, that trumpet ...
posted by brokkr at 2:47 PM on June 29


COME ON!
posted by ersatz at 2:47 PM on June 29


Oh God CR, please hold on!
posted by marienbad at 2:49 PM on June 29


CR cannot seem to hang on to the ball.
posted by languagehat at 2:49 PM on June 29


goalkick - run the clock down CR1
posted by marienbad at 2:49 PM on June 29


lolwhut - the Greek goalie doesn't know how to do a throw-in?
posted by brokkr at 2:49 PM on June 29


> God, that trumpet ...

Hey man, you're the one boosting Greece, you must want to hear Trumpet Guy for even more games.
posted by ardgedee at 2:49 PM on June 29


And a yellow card for Navas.
posted by languagehat at 2:49 PM on June 29


maybe not that much though
posted by marienbad at 2:49 PM on June 29


Ok that dude on the right for Costa Rica? Acosta? STOP MAKING STUPID CALLS!
posted by lizarrd at 2:50 PM on June 29


THey don't even seem to be trying.
posted by benito.strauss at 2:50 PM on June 29


Holy shit. Another late game-changer
posted by eriko at 2:50 PM on June 29


WHYYYYYY
posted by elizardbits at 2:50 PM on June 29


My God - another last-minute goal.
posted by running order squabble fest at 2:50 PM on June 29


Oh, Jesus. Here we go.
posted by languagehat at 2:50 PM on June 29


HOLY CRAP!
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:50 PM on June 29


and now 5 minutes of stoppage time.. and possibly extra time. Oh No.
posted by marienbad at 2:51 PM on June 29


NNNnnnnnNNNNNNNRNRRRRGH.
posted by ardgedee at 2:51 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


Greeks know when to score.
posted by brokkr at 2:51 PM on June 29


Woo hoooo mofos!
posted by ersatz at 2:51 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


Damn, at 89 minutes.
posted by joedan at 2:51 PM on June 29


What was it you were saying about asking questions of the CR defence?
posted by marienbad at 2:51 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


When did FIFA institute the "At least one goal must be scored after the 90th minute" rule?
posted by Rock Steady at 2:52 PM on June 29


Well, hopefully Acosta gets his game together, oh and, if the Greeks do another handball in the penalty box, I hope they actually freaking call it.
posted by lizarrd at 2:52 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


Now they're moving!
posted by travelwithcats at 2:53 PM on June 29


One of the announcers on Univision is so frustrated with Costa Rica right now.
posted by joedan at 2:53 PM on June 29


So a tiny country is going to win the whole damn thing.
posted by Dumsnill at 2:53 PM on June 29


Wow, Greece almost won it right there.
posted by eriko at 2:53 PM on June 29


Greece decides to start playing in extra time.
posted by Pendragon at 2:53 PM on June 29


That's a yellow card!!!
posted by Pendragon at 2:55 PM on June 29


This Brazilian announcer really struggles with Greek players' names, sounding out each syllable and really drawing out the 's' at the end. Except for Sokratis - and now they're joking a bit about former Brazilian footballer Socrates.

They keep calling the game "feo."
posted by needled at 2:55 PM on June 29


Peep Peep PEEP. 30 more minutes.
posted by eriko at 2:56 PM on June 29


I want to dub over a bunch of World Cup arms out running around goal celebrations with my son making airplane noises.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 2:56 PM on June 29


Fucking hell. Extra time.
posted by languagehat at 2:56 PM on June 29


That's a yellow card!!!

That's a 15 yard penalty in US football.
posted by eriko at 2:56 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


THIS IS A VERY STRESSFUL GAME
posted by elizardbits at 2:56 PM on June 29


How was that NOT a yellow card? The Costa Ricans got yellow cards like freaking candy!
posted by lizarrd at 2:57 PM on June 29


Extra time - oh noes - it is looking bad for CR now. And their keeper seemed a bit injured, so penalties will be difficult if he is and it goes there.
posted by marienbad at 2:57 PM on June 29


Down a man, no subs left, hurt goalie -- things are very bad for Costa Rica right now.
posted by eriko at 2:57 PM on June 29


Rooting for Costa Rica. The smaller the better.
posted by Dumsnill at 2:57 PM on June 29


OH GOD GARETH BALE MINE EYES
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:58 PM on June 29


Damn, have to be up early for work and its now 11pm in the UK.
posted by marienbad at 2:58 PM on June 29


I kinda wish I hadn't started watching this one.
posted by benito.strauss at 3:00 PM on June 29


While were waiting for the game to restart, here's TIm Henman doing keepy-uppy with a tennis ball.
posted by marienbad at 3:00 PM on June 29


It is 00:00 here in the Netherlands, and I also have to be up early for work. I guess a double espresso for breakfast will do the trick.
posted by Pendragon at 3:02 PM on June 29


Torosidis having leg wrapped - pundits feel he has a problem. This could be a dark technical game now, with things like that coming into play.
posted by marienbad at 3:03 PM on June 29


GO Costa Rica GO!
posted by travelwithcats at 3:03 PM on June 29


With a bit of luck we'll go through. Please please please.
posted by ersatz at 3:03 PM on June 29


There's no way Torosidis can play anywhere near 100% with that much tape on his thigh.
posted by eriko at 3:04 PM on June 29


Come on, Ticos! If the Greek player fouls you? Pretend like you're dead it may get a yellow cause apparently nothing else will.

Also, score, score and press them. They are not comfortable attacking.
posted by lizarrd at 3:05 PM on June 29


New flash: Greece was offside, and General Francisco Franco is still dead.
posted by eriko at 3:06 PM on June 29


Costa Rica's got to just go for broke. Push forward, all out attack, forget they are a man down. I don't think they can just buckle down and hold off Greece for another 30.
posted by Rock Steady at 3:07 PM on June 29


Torosidis is in a bad way -- just watch when he puts any pressure on the right leg.
posted by eriko at 3:07 PM on June 29


Do the greek players even know the offside rule ?
posted by Pendragon at 3:07 PM on June 29


I think the officials had decided that Greece is always offside and they can't suspend the game just for that, so they're going to ignore it.
posted by ardgedee at 3:07 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


They surely can't hang on like this, crosses being whipped in!
posted by marienbad at 3:09 PM on June 29


Are the Greeks even aiming?
posted by lizarrd at 3:09 PM on June 29


Back up Greece, geeze.
posted by travelwithcats at 3:09 PM on June 29


Costa Rica are kind of fucked, but they're putting up a pretty tough fight.
posted by Dumsnill at 3:11 PM on June 29


What a dive!
posted by eriko at 3:13 PM on June 29


Yeah, Can't see how CR are going to get a goal. playing 4-4-1 and Campbell is so isolated and worn out.
posted by marienbad at 3:13 PM on June 29


At this point we can't even assume the players are trying to oversell their fouls. They're as likely to be leg cramps.
posted by ardgedee at 3:13 PM on June 29


Pinball football.
posted by Pendragon at 3:14 PM on June 29


Awesome defending, and a terrible head on from the corner.
posted by marienbad at 3:14 PM on June 29


One of these has to go through!
posted by ersatz at 3:14 PM on June 29


CR's defending at the point is two steps away from just sitting on each others' shoulders in front of goal shouting "YOU SHALL NOT PASS (because you are offside)"
posted by robocop is bleeding at 3:15 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


Garoto is a Brazilian chocolate manufacturer. Just in case you, like me, has found yourself wondering about that sometime in the last 2½ weeks.
posted by brokkr at 3:17 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


Hard to believe CR have held off the tide for fifteen minutes.
posted by languagehat at 3:19 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


Marfrig.

Yet another offside flag against the Greeks!!

This is going to take a mistake to sort it out.
posted by marienbad at 3:19 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


Was that the first actual offsides call against Greece in this game?
posted by ardgedee at 3:20 PM on June 29


Campbell looks like he wants to lay on his face in the middle of the pitch and have a good nap.
posted by elizardbits at 3:20 PM on June 29


That ref just needs to have the offside flag up at all times for Greece. I don't think I've ever seen offside called so much in a World Cup match.
posted by lizarrd at 3:21 PM on June 29


I was just going to ask about Marfrig.
posted by Rock Steady at 3:21 PM on June 29


God dammit, quit wearing him out! WE NEED HIM!
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 3:21 PM on June 29


The WatchESPN feed can detect when things are getting interesting, and insert stutters and dial down the speed.
posted by benito.strauss at 3:22 PM on June 29


Wake up, Banana!
posted by eriko at 3:22 PM on June 29


Could it end up with Greece Vs Colombia in one of the semi finals?

Brenes looks the best bet for CR.
posted by marienbad at 3:23 PM on June 29


Weird that two of the first finals go to extra halfs.
posted by Dumsnill at 3:23 PM on June 29


No, Greece and Colombia can only meet in the final, not going to happen.
posted by Pendragon at 3:24 PM on June 29


Navas timewasting? Didn't look much to that tbh.
posted by marienbad at 3:24 PM on June 29


And the magic spray comes out!
posted by needled at 3:25 PM on June 29


marienbad: "Could it end up with Greece Vs Colombia in one of the semi finals?"
Teams who advanced from the same group can't meet each other again before the final (or match for third place).
posted by brokkr at 3:25 PM on June 29


If Greece beat Costa Rica do they become the unofficial World Champions?
posted by marienbad at 3:25 PM on June 29


From the Guardian:

"I'm no tactical expert," writes Jerry Parks, "but it appears that in Gekas and Mitroglu Greece are pioneering the use of a revolutionary double False 9 system, where two players pretend to be footballers in order to distract the defense and free up space for the rest of team. It's a pity Fulham couldn't keep Mitroglu and Berbatov together in order to try it at club level."
posted by languagehat at 3:26 PM on June 29 [3 favorites]


Yay magic spray!
posted by joedan at 3:26 PM on June 29


This is rapidly descending into chaos.
posted by eriko at 3:27 PM on June 29


Closing in on penalties...
posted by marienbad at 3:27 PM on June 29


I am not watching penalties - I'm English and have seen enough of them.
posted by marienbad at 3:28 PM on June 29


Wow, that was quite the run by Cubero.
posted by eriko at 3:28 PM on June 29


how much time of extra time is left? 10m?
posted by elizardbits at 3:29 PM on June 29


Good opportunity here. Might be the last one they get.
posted by joedan at 3:29 PM on June 29


5 on 2 and Mitrolglou misses!!!
posted by marienbad at 3:29 PM on June 29


If that backheel went in, Campbell would instantly have become President of Costa Rica.
posted by Rock Steady at 3:30 PM on June 29 [3 favorites]


ET runs to 120 minutes plus prolly 1 minute stoppage time.
posted by brokkr at 3:30 PM on June 29


Campbell can barely move at this point.
posted by languagehat at 3:30 PM on June 29


Campbell is walking dead now.
posted by brokkr at 3:30 PM on June 29


So this will end in penalties. I hate that. I wish the would just introduce sudden death.
posted by Dumsnill at 3:31 PM on June 29


They look pretty dead, if you ask me.
posted by ardgedee at 3:31 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


Dumsnill: "I wish the would just introduce sudden death."

Nice try, France.
posted by Dr. Zira at 3:32 PM on June 29


They tried the golden goal a couple of years ago, wasn't a success.
posted by Pendragon at 3:32 PM on June 29


A chili cookoff, then.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 3:32 PM on June 29 [3 favorites]


Dumsnill: "So this will end in penalties. I hate that. I wish the would just introduce sudden death."
Tried that, it didn't work.
posted by brokkr at 3:32 PM on June 29


Another offside!
posted by languagehat at 3:33 PM on June 29


Do the Greeks even know how to make chili?
posted by Dr. Zira at 3:34 PM on June 29


joedan: "Yay magic spray!"

In all seriousness, I have no idea what's in their magic spray, but if it's anything like BioFreeze, it's awesome. It's basically a menthol spray. Imagine Ben Gay that actually works.
posted by Dr. Zira at 3:35 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


So tired he can barely walk let alone control the ball.

And Mitrolglou again misses.
posted by marienbad at 3:35 PM on June 29


They probably know just as much about chili as they do about offsides.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 3:35 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


> Do the Greeks even know how to make chili?

They make it with rice rather than beans, and chicken rather than beef, and there any peppers you'd notice, but yeah. It's called avgolemono.
posted by ardgedee at 3:36 PM on June 29


A general knowledge quiz, then. Perhaps the Pointless team could oblige.
posted by Grangousier at 3:36 PM on June 29


What was the problem with sudden death anyway? Seemed to work just fine.
posted by Dumsnill at 3:36 PM on June 29


How much injury time? Where's the Hublot (tm) board?
posted by marienbad at 3:36 PM on June 29


"So this will end in penalties. I hate that. I wish the would just introduce sudden death."

Rock-paper-scissors between the captains. Best of 3 so it's not unfairly random.
posted by Wordshore at 3:36 PM on June 29


2 more min i think
posted by elizardbits at 3:37 PM on June 29


Dance-off
posted by Rock Steady at 3:37 PM on June 29


Wow!
posted by marienbad at 3:37 PM on June 29


My heart in my mouth there. Greece and their last-minute shots. Damn.
posted by ardgedee at 3:38 PM on June 29


You could Benny Hill theme these last few minutes.
posted by lizarrd at 3:38 PM on June 29


Navas is playing the role of Ochoa.
posted by languagehat at 3:38 PM on June 29


Holy moly, that was almost in, but Greece can't put the ball on the net again.
posted by eriko at 3:38 PM on June 29


Its penalties now. by the time this is taken...
posted by marienbad at 3:38 PM on June 29


I'm too worn out to peep after that. Kicks from the spot, now.
posted by eriko at 3:39 PM on June 29


I'm being reminded of this.
posted by languagehat at 3:39 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


Dumsnill: "What was the problem with sudden death anyway? Seemed to work just fine."
Nobody wanted to lose, so you just had two teams holding back for 30 minutes before it went to penalties anyway.
posted by brokkr at 3:39 PM on June 29


It looks like the walking dead out there.
posted by Pendragon at 3:39 PM on June 29


But we're on to penalties. I don't think I can take this.
posted by languagehat at 3:39 PM on June 29


I think this is the first time Greece go to penalty shoot outs. Please make it through!
posted by ersatz at 3:40 PM on June 29


GO BANANA!
posted by Dr. Zira at 3:40 PM on June 29


Jesus, penalties! Let's see if anyone has the energy to kick the ball 12 yards.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:41 PM on June 29 [2 favorites]


This is going to be an interesting set of penalties. Wonder how it will finish up. Costa Rica look dead on their feet, but Mitroglu and Samaras are not exactly razor sharp, and Samaris has gone off.
posted by marienbad at 3:41 PM on June 29


Do any of the Costa Ricans have legs any more?
posted by running order squabble fest at 3:42 PM on June 29


Greece had so many chances and they have a really hard time to get the ball in the box. I see a great chance for Costa Rica here to win this!!!
posted by travelwithcats at 3:42 PM on June 29


I think the Greek coach is improvising a scene from Curb Your Enthusiasm with the referees.
posted by Dr. Zira at 3:42 PM on June 29


Did the Greek coach get sent off, or is he just storming off in a huff?
posted by eriko at 3:43 PM on June 29


But kicking the coach out was unnecessary.
posted by travelwithcats at 3:43 PM on June 29


Time for someone to be a hero. Or villian. I am so glad I am neutral right now. Well, sorta...
posted by marienbad at 3:44 PM on June 29


Greek coach sent off? What had he done?
posted by ardgedee at 3:44 PM on June 29


Santos got send off but refuses to go.
posted by Pendragon at 3:44 PM on June 29


Not sure about Greek coach but I didn't see any cards shown to him.
posted by marienbad at 3:44 PM on June 29


I wonder if any of the mods are watching this match. Or even there, perhaps (if so, wave a sign at us)?
posted by Wordshore at 3:44 PM on June 29


Santos was constantly arguing with the reff. You can't do that.
posted by Pendragon at 3:45 PM on June 29


Rooting for CR, but Greece will win this.
posted by Dumsnill at 3:46 PM on June 29


A coach doesn't get a card but can be sent off the field.
posted by Pendragon at 3:46 PM on June 29


ardgedee: "It's called avgolemono."

I just Googled it for a recipe and it appears to take less time to make than this match.
posted by Dr. Zira at 3:46 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


the real hero of the day is me who just ran up 4 flights of stairs with 30lbs of laundry in under a minute
posted by elizardbits at 3:47 PM on June 29 [6 favorites]


Lee Dixon on ITV - "have a picture in your mind and do that, don't change your mind."
posted by marienbad at 3:48 PM on June 29


Good first penalty.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:48 PM on June 29


No joy for banana there.
posted by eriko at 3:48 PM on June 29


one - nil (/david Coleman)
posted by marienbad at 3:49 PM on June 29


An entire wedding banquet would take less time to make than this match.
posted by languagehat at 3:49 PM on June 29


And Mitroglou scores after six months!
posted by ersatz at 3:49 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


Cheeky, Greece! 1-1
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:49 PM on June 29


Apparently coming off the GK line is all the rage these days.
posted by Dr. Zira at 3:50 PM on June 29


Mitrogolu finally scores one!
posted by marienbad at 3:50 PM on June 29


Dos a uno!
posted by eriko at 3:50 PM on June 29


Good second penalty.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:50 PM on June 29


do you remember the before times?
posted by robocop is bleeding at 3:50 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


are you watching these, Hulk??? You smashless wonder!!!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:51 PM on June 29 [6 favorites]


Second!
posted by ersatz at 3:51 PM on June 29


Dos a dos!
posted by eriko at 3:51 PM on June 29


Sold him, waited and scored. Nice pen, greece
posted by marienbad at 3:51 PM on June 29


The goalies are just plain too fatigued to make any kind of judgement.
posted by ardgedee at 3:51 PM on June 29


Good third penalty.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:51 PM on June 29


This is going to end up 8 - 7!
posted by marienbad at 3:51 PM on June 29


Third
posted by ersatz at 3:52 PM on June 29


Tres a Tres. We may be able to make two wedding banquets.
posted by eriko at 3:52 PM on June 29


Still all square. This could go on all year, no?
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:52 PM on June 29


That's probably more penalties in than England have scored in the last 20 years, by now.
posted by Wordshore at 3:52 PM on June 29 [2 favorites]


Good fourth penalty.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:53 PM on June 29


Oh man, Campbell... Scores!!!
posted by marienbad at 3:53 PM on June 29


Campbell cunningly fools the goalie by appearing to be dead.
posted by running order squabble fest at 3:53 PM on June 29 [6 favorites]


Campbell does it!
posted by languagehat at 3:53 PM on June 29


Surprised Campbell had anything left.
posted by eriko at 3:53 PM on June 29


navas!!!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:54 PM on June 29


OLIVE STUFFS HIM!
posted by eriko at 3:54 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


Fucked it up!
posted by Dumsnill at 3:54 PM on June 29


YAAAAAAAAAAAASS
posted by elizardbits at 3:54 PM on June 29


NAVAS!!!!!!
posted by marienbad at 3:54 PM on June 29


Motherfucker!
posted by ersatz at 3:54 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


(DRAMATIC STING)
posted by robocop is bleeding at 3:54 PM on June 29


Oh man, Navas!
posted by ardgedee at 3:54 PM on June 29


Quatro a tres. CR scores and wins. Greece misses and loses.
posted by eriko at 3:54 PM on June 29


Costa Rica HAS to sink this last one. Puh-LEEEEZE
posted by ardgedee at 3:55 PM on June 29


Umania!!! Oh boy good luck dude!
posted by marienbad at 3:55 PM on June 29


Good fifth penalty!!!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:55 PM on June 29


yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted by marienbad at 3:55 PM on June 29


YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted by languagehat at 3:55 PM on June 29


Costa Rica!
posted by Dumsnill at 3:55 PM on June 29


COSTA RICA GOES TO THE QUARTER FINALS
posted by ardgedee at 3:55 PM on June 29


Yes! Costa Rica!
posted by travelwithcats at 3:56 PM on June 29


PARTEY TIMES
posted by elizardbits at 3:56 PM on June 29


GAME.

I guess Banana lost his

(•_•)
( •_•)>⌐■-■
(⌐■_■)

Appeal.
posted by eriko at 3:56 PM on June 29 [4 favorites]


Oh the Umania!!!!!
posted by benito.strauss at 3:56 PM on June 29 [2 favorites]


Sorry, Ersatz. Tough, long game and it sucks to lose in PKs.
posted by eriko at 3:56 PM on June 29 [2 favorites]


Bollocks. Well done, Costa Rica.
posted by ersatz at 3:57 PM on June 29


Three cheers for Greece, though - it could easily have been them.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:57 PM on June 29


SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII! LOS TICOS!
posted by lizarrd at 3:57 PM on June 29


oh god i forgot to pick up my dog at puppy school

fucking football
posted by elizardbits at 3:57 PM on June 29 [2 favorites]


Well Done Costa Rica - into the Quarter Finals.
posted by marienbad at 3:58 PM on June 29


So, where are we at for the Quarter Finals? Here:

Brazil -vs- Columbia
France or Nigeria -vs- Germany or Algeria
Netherlands -vs- Costa Rica
Argentina or Switzerland -vs- Belgium or USA
posted by Wordshore at 3:58 PM on June 29


Costa Rica in the quarter finals, that is just fantastically awesome.
posted by Dumsnill at 3:58 PM on June 29


I was going to get a gyro a local Greek restaurant. Now I'm a little afraid to go there.
posted by benito.strauss at 3:59 PM on June 29


WHAT A MATCH THAT WAS! WHAT A FUCKING SPORT THIS IS!
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 3:59 PM on June 29 [2 favorites]


Now we Europas can go to bed. Goodnight all!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:59 PM on June 29


Even Alexi Lalas and German Matt Damon look exhausted.
posted by Dr. Zira at 3:59 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


France v Germany or Algeria would make an excellent game. Also, goodnight!
posted by marienbad at 4:00 PM on June 29


do you remember the before times?


IN THE GRIM DARKNESS OF THE FAR FUTURE, THERE IS ONLY FOOTBALL.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 4:02 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


Michael Umana was literally trembling before taking the winning kick.
As cruel as it is penalties are the purest sporting drama.
posted by fullerine at 4:02 PM on June 29 [2 favorites]


Enough for me. Two more matches tomorrow, both Europe vs Africa. Goodnight all!
posted by Wordshore at 4:03 PM on June 29


OK, I love this game.
posted by lalex at 4:03 PM on June 29 [2 favorites]


Incidentally, guys: Called it, like, 10-15 minutes into the second half.
posted by ardgedee at 4:38 PM on June 29 [1 favorite]


I thought we would win this one, but that's the beauty of football. At least Greece showed we can play football and fought till the end: Shots 24-6, on goal 13-2, possession 57%-43% in the round of 16. No anti-football here.
posted by ersatz at 4:41 PM on June 29 [3 favorites]


Good morning!

20 teams out. Only 12 remain. It's...

Round of 16: Matches 5 and 6

It's day 3 of the Round of 16, where the number of teams still in the 2014 FIFA world cup is further reduced, to 10. Here's the live odds to win the tournament outright. But before this, let's have another look at that Colombian goal celebration by the players, and some images from the 2010 World Cup.

The daily podcast from the Guardian (NSFW).

First today - noon USA eastern time - we have France (1/2) against Nigeria (6/1). The BBC have some team news, and a match preview and facts.

At 4pm USA eastern time it's Germany (3/10), the favorites of many, against Algeria (12/1). Again, the BBC summary. Because of a match in 1982, Algeria have extra motivation to dump German out of the World Cup.

The winners of todays matches face-off in the Quarter Finals on Friday at noon USA Eastern.
posted by Wordshore at 1:35 AM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Well France really should see off Nigeria; unfortunately you cannot see past a German victory no matter who they are playing.

In footy "news" today:

Robben admits he dived but not for the penalty.

In other actual footy news:

The BBC's Ben Smith talks about van Gaal's tactical/formation changes.
Costa Rica practised pens and Greece coach Fernando Santos is leaving his post as his contract is up.
posted by marienbad at 2:15 AM on June 30


Re: Almany - I really doubt Algeria will win, but I hope they do just to revenge the West Germany-Austria fix-up. We all have regrets about the 80s, but none more so than Algeria.

Re: Frigeria, I predict a tight match, as I'm not wholly convinced that France can just take the win for granted (but, I've been wrong about everything I've said here before).

BBC Weather says Brasilia (for Frigeria) will be 25 C today, surely comfortable for everyone; and Porto Alegre (for Almany) will be ... raining and 18 C? That's in Germany's favour, you'd think.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:23 AM on June 30


Germany's practically playing in Germany. Porto Alegre / Rio Grande do Sul is one of the regions of Brazil where a large proportion of German immigrants ended up. (German-Brazilian Gisele Bündchen is from Rio Grande do Sul).
posted by needled at 6:05 AM on June 30 [1 favorite]


In other news, upon their return to Korea the Korean team was pelted with yeot by angry football fans. (In Korean slang 엿 먹어라/ "eat yeot" approximately translates to "Fuck you").
posted by needled at 6:18 AM on June 30


FIFA may take action over Robben after his admittance of diving in the gane against Mexico.

Gotta work tonight (called in to cover) so won't be back till later and may miss the game altogether unfortunately, but need the money right now so can't turn the work down. I hope you will all be filling in for me by posting endless daft comments about the game.
posted by marienbad at 6:28 AM on June 30 [3 favorites]




> Uruguay's President Jose Mujica has called football's world governing body Fifa "a bunch of old sons of bitches"

Well, there's no arguing with that, though his example is ill chosen.
posted by languagehat at 6:57 AM on June 30 [4 favorites]




Was it not the famous English centre-half T. S. Eliot who once wrote, "The Uruguayan President's act is the greatest treason / To insult the right people for the wrong reason" - in his great work Mujica in the Cathedral?

The answer to this question is: "No. He never wrote that. Shut up, quidnunc."

But let me just explain myself - I actually lost my balance and FELL on T. S. Eliot's great verse drama. So even if I have acci-DENTALLY masticated his works, you will surely agree that it would be a breach of my human rights to ban me from commenting here for four months.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 7:37 AM on June 30 [3 favorites]


> the Korean team was pelted with yeot by angry football fans.

I hope those candies were wrapped, because that stuff's basically liquid rice sugar in a highly viscous state. Let it sit on something for a while and it's more tenacious than molasses.
posted by ardgedee at 7:50 AM on June 30


You want to take a moment before you cross your arms, Patrice Evra?

Sure, go ahe - SCREW YOU! SCREW YOU! WE'RE CUTTING TO ANOTHER DUDE CROSSING HIS ARMS, LOSER!
posted by running order squabble fest at 8:57 AM on June 30


And they're off! Go Super Eagles!
posted by languagehat at 9:02 AM on June 30


Cocks vs Eagles.
posted by Pendragon at 9:08 AM on June 30


Is there any reason to NOT root for the African teams playing today? I'm neutral w/r/t all four teams, but have a sentimental preference for the underdogs. Also I'd just plain like to see Africa represented in the quarter finals.
posted by ardgedee at 9:08 AM on June 30


Depends how much you like World War II.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 9:10 AM on June 30


Is there any reason to NOT root for the African teams playing today? I'm neutral w/r/t all four teams, but have a sentimental preference for the underdogs.

Liking French lit and memories of Zidane? Allez les Bleus!
posted by ersatz at 9:14 AM on June 30


Or allez les Blancs considering their shirt colour today.
posted by ersatz at 9:15 AM on June 30


I hope when the WC is over, someone does a graph correlating shirt tightness to performance. It seems like all the sausage casings (Italy, Uruguay) did not perform as well as the looser fits.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 9:16 AM on June 30 [2 favorites]


les bleus do not seem overly motivated to get threu, although they already have Nigeria in a steu.
posted by ardgedee at 9:16 AM on June 30


I like French lit and remember Zidane fondly, but he ain't on the team, and I'd love to see Nigeria move on. That said, if France win, I won't weep into my Star beer.
posted by languagehat at 9:16 AM on June 30


"Pretty awful attempt," sez the announcer, and I can't disagree.
posted by languagehat at 9:17 AM on June 30


aw man offside
posted by elizardbits at 9:19 AM on June 30


GOOOO.... offside. Fuck.
posted by languagehat at 9:19 AM on June 30


Nigeria score a Greek goal!
posted by ardgedee at 9:19 AM on June 30


I offered my reasons, lh, not claiming they're universal. Great try by Nigeria.
posted by ersatz at 9:19 AM on June 30


How did France not score there??
posted by languagehat at 9:20 AM on June 30


GLORIOUS SAVE
posted by elizardbits at 9:22 AM on June 30


The ridiculous color commentary fool just informed everyone that Nigeria has a player with a broken arm and another who just had a malaria event.

To equalize this, apparently the French are hungover. Way to kick it old skool...

Great save.
posted by syncope at 9:22 AM on June 30 [1 favorite]


aren't you supposed to be in class right now
posted by elizardbits at 9:27 AM on June 30


Oops. Stlll on mentally EDT, forgot the game started at 1100 CDT.

Frankly surprised that it's still 0-0, to be honest.
posted by eriko at 9:28 AM on June 30


Nigeria are playing well! The BBC sportscaster cannot pronounce the French names incl. these of Premier League players.
posted by ersatz at 9:29 AM on June 30


France is/are my pick to win the Cup. Which means they will lose today to Nigeria.
posted by wensink at 9:29 AM on June 30


Thank god I turned in the book I was editing so I can concentrate entirely on fútbol.
posted by languagehat at 9:30 AM on June 30


I finally comment, and trolling!

Also, no, I'm on vacation (which was lucky since I would have had to drop out otherwise).
posted by syncope at 9:30 AM on June 30


I see we have Mark Gieger referring again. He's done a good job his last two matches.

Which means I'm sure that he's blown several calls while I wasn't watching this morning.
posted by eriko at 9:31 AM on June 30


> I hope when the WC is over, someone does a graph correlating shirt tightness to performance.

I tried compiling stats on Adidas vs. Puma vs. Nike vs. etc. before I lost interest. Anyway it looked like Adidas was way ahead of everybody else.
posted by needled at 9:31 AM on June 30


Any nicknames yet?
posted by eriko at 9:33 AM on June 30


Nigeria seem to be playing well, and penetrating on the right, but without threatening a lot. France fitful but more menacing.
posted by running order squabble fest at 9:34 AM on June 30


i like the shade of their kit but they're blending a bit too much with the pitch. either that or i need my glasses prescription updated.
posted by elizardbits at 9:37 AM on June 30


The corner is up...and over...and gone untouched. Oops
posted by eriko at 9:38 AM on June 30


Heck of a counter there by France, and Debuchy just plain missed on the finisher.
posted by eriko at 9:39 AM on June 30


Terrible finishing there.
posted by ersatz at 9:39 AM on June 30


The rival goalies are traffic light red and traffic light yellow, and the Nigerian side are green and the French side are white and black, so it's traffic day.
posted by ardgedee at 9:40 AM on June 30


Was there ever a "ruling" on that Ramadan issue for pro athletes?
posted by syncope at 9:41 AM on June 30


Surely they'd be Yellow Card and Red Card, right?
posted by eriko at 9:42 AM on June 30


More on that yeot throwing incident at the Korean team today.
posted by ardgedee at 9:43 AM on June 30


Wow, that was a blast, then the handball ruined everything.
posted by eriko at 9:44 AM on June 30


Now Nigeria is bringing attacks in, and France is running the counter -- which is the exact opposite of what I'd expected.
posted by eriko at 9:46 AM on June 30


That's that for now. What snacks is everyone having?
posted by ersatz at 9:48 AM on June 30


I realize France will in all likelihood win, but at this rate Nigeria seems to at least have a chance. half time and no scores...
posted by edgeways at 9:49 AM on June 30


This game is quite fun so far. Can they all be like this one?
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 9:55 AM on June 30


What snacks is everyone having?

Six-piece sushi from Marks and Spencer in central Loughborough, reduced from horrendously expensive to 35p.
posted by Wordshore at 9:56 AM on June 30


Hello, football people, so this is where you've been going silly. Very sad for Chile, and especially for Jara, but they acquitted themselves to great credit. The width of the post, fine margins, all that. The second penalty Chile scored, though...woof. I expect Colombia to crush Brazil, who just have not looked very good at all.

I'm more sad for Mexico, which is not a feeling I'm accustomed to and I hope it goes away soon. Everything about Robben is odious except his left foot.

Unfortunately I was not able to fulfill 538.com's predictions for the match itself, due to an unexpectedly complicated weekend, but I did my best to make up for it later that night, pouring one out for my vanquished homies.

I would be quite happy to see either Nigeria or France go through, so let's just have a good second half. And Mark Geiger's doing quite well, isn't he?
posted by Errant at 9:59 AM on June 30 [1 favorite]


I'm not sure I'd trust overly discount sushi.
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 9:59 AM on June 30


And Mark Geiger's doing quite well, isn't he?

He is doing well, which is amazing, because MLS refs aren't exactly the cream of the crop. But this is his crew's third match and so far, they've run 5 solid halves.

Assuming he doesn't screw up, I think he should be given strong consideration for a slot in the last four games (semis, 3rd place, and final.)
posted by eriko at 10:01 AM on June 30


It's lunchtime in the US, where I am, and therefore, I believe I will call our goalies Mustard and Ketchup.
posted by eriko at 10:03 AM on June 30 [1 favorite]


(Note, this is lousy US hot-dog mustard, not real mustard. Real mustard isn't that color.)
posted by eriko at 10:03 AM on June 30


I can't see him getting a semifinal or the final, just because he's American and no one really trusts that the MLS in him won't suddenly appear and screw everything up. But a quarterfinal or the 3rd place game would be quite a coup.
posted by Errant at 10:05 AM on June 30


Sadly I am writing SQL queries instead of watching soccer, sneaking occasional glances at this page and the Guardian's liveblog.
posted by needled at 10:08 AM on June 30


> I believe I will call our goalies Mustard and Ketchup.

I will join you in this nomenclature.
posted by languagehat at 10:10 AM on June 30


The thing I most admire about Gieger's performance, other than the general not screwing up, is they way his games stay under control without a ton of cards coming out. He appears to have a very real "Don't push it" attitude that players are respecting, and when he gives the "knock it off" speech, everyone appears to knock it off.

Compared to the chaos that was the 2010 final, that alone is reason to put him in one of the marquee matches.
posted by eriko at 10:11 AM on June 30 [2 favorites]


I just had a haircut!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 10:11 AM on June 30


AND OF COURSE he pulls out the yellow card just after I posted that. Arguably, he pulled the wrong card, though -- that's a pretty clear red, but from where he was I think he didn't see how hard the tackle was.
posted by eriko at 10:12 AM on June 30


That was a call back to the group stages, which were all about the haircuts. I see we've moved on goalkeepers and the foods they resemble. Sorry everyone.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 10:13 AM on June 30


> (Note, this is lousy US hot-dog mustard, not real mustard. Real mustard isn't that color.)

It's kind of like donuts or french fries where you can find examples that are better by all measures but a plain ol' industrial-production fast food counterpart can be satisfying on its own terms.

I mean, we've got about a half-dozen different great mustards in our fridge because those are the only kind I'll buy. But at a ballpark or cookout I'm still going to reach for French's fluorescent yellow stuff. It's the only mustard that tastes right at the time.
posted by ardgedee at 10:13 AM on June 30


Giroud's hair has always been world class, even when his strikes have not been so.
posted by Dr. Zira at 10:14 AM on June 30


my dog's reaction to the yellow card was to express her anal glands with extreme prejudice
posted by elizardbits at 10:14 AM on June 30


Nasty tackle.
posted by ersatz at 10:14 AM on June 30


Yeah, that's a bad one. I can just about see only a yellow for it, but Matuidi is very lucky and a red wouldn't have been out of line.
posted by Errant at 10:14 AM on June 30


I have no idea who'll win, but anybody willing to risk a guess on the likelihood of this going to penalty kicks?
posted by ardgedee at 10:16 AM on June 30


No cards at all in the first half? geeze
posted by edgeways at 10:16 AM on June 30


Giroud or Benzema will score late, much to the chagrin of poor Mr. Mustard.
posted by Dr. Zira at 10:17 AM on June 30


Nigeria is playing very well right now.
posted by eriko at 10:17 AM on June 30


Also, Nigeria understand the offsides rule. That's nice to see at this level!
posted by eriko at 10:18 AM on June 30


Attack the flanks, Nigeria!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 10:19 AM on June 30


Via ESPN broadcast, Jozy Altidore is available to play tomorrow.
posted by wensink at 10:20 AM on June 30


Ketchup was a little surprised by that shot.
posted by eriko at 10:22 AM on June 30


25 minutes left in the 2nd innings.
posted by Wordshore at 10:22 AM on June 30


Solid shot by Odemwingie there - Ambrose keeps crossing slightly too close to the goal line, though... they keep going to French defenders.
posted by running order squabble fest at 10:22 AM on June 30


(Not, I hasten to add, that I think I could do better.)
posted by running order squabble fest at 10:22 AM on June 30


Whoops! Nigeria almost ate that bad clearance. That was twice we had "bonehead-brilliant" play sequences by them there.
posted by eriko at 10:24 AM on June 30


Nice run in there -- and good defending by France. That ball goes by and Nigeria's got a goal.

Alas, the spirit of Graham Zusi descend on Nigeria....
posted by eriko at 10:26 AM on June 30


Late to the party, looks like a fast moving game!
Oh, I already have problems loading this 1000+ comment thread. Mods, can we have a new one please?
posted by travelwithcats at 10:26 AM on June 30


Holy Cow, Mustard, how could you screw that up that badly and not give the goal!
posted by eriko at 10:27 AM on June 30


How did France not score there????
posted by languagehat at 10:27 AM on June 30


that was a fucking historic save, omg
posted by elizardbits at 10:28 AM on June 30


Huzzah for goal line technology!
posted by Dr. Zira at 10:28 AM on June 30


Oh wow, what a chance!
posted by ersatz at 10:28 AM on June 30


Absolutely brilliant defending by Ambrose there, but he's shaken up now.
posted by eriko at 10:28 AM on June 30


Moses saves!
posted by ardgedee at 10:28 AM on June 30 [2 favorites]


This is maybe the most bizarre scoreless game I've ever seen. Both teams have let the other fellows frolic around their goal areas pretty much at will, and yet nobody's been able to get the ball into the net.
posted by languagehat at 10:30 AM on June 30


Holy Cow, Mustard, how could you screw that up that badly and not give the goal!


I think Enyeama did really well, actually - the last defender totally missed the clearance and played Griezmann onside. It was impressive to get down to block the ball, although without Moses' clearance it wouldn't have been enough...
posted by running order squabble fest at 10:30 AM on June 30


France tried a give-and-go, but it ended up a give-and-give-and-give-and-giveoops.
posted by eriko at 10:30 AM on June 30


> (German-Brazilian Gisele Bündchen is from Rio Grande do Sul).

Where she grew up speaking "Riograndenser Hunsrückisch German". Now that's a language name.
posted by benito.strauss at 10:30 AM on June 30


Hey, everybody. Luis Suarez is really sorry.
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 10:31 AM on June 30


As an Arsenal fan, I am ashamed to admit that I didn't know that Kos saved an accordian factory from bankruptcy.
posted by Dr. Zira at 10:32 AM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Something's put a fire under France now. The balance of power on the field is markedly different.
posted by ardgedee at 10:33 AM on June 30


STUPID SEXY CROSSBAR.
posted by Dr. Zira at 10:34 AM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Wow. I don't think God loves the French.
posted by languagehat at 10:34 AM on June 30


Holy cow, first right through the box, then off the woodwork? France just can't get a break here.
posted by eriko at 10:34 AM on June 30


France are just a bit more of a goal threat, I feeWOAH!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 10:34 AM on June 30


You're not kidding, ardegee - Nigeria have been saved by Moses, Enyeama and the crossbar. You wouldn't bet against one of those strikes being a goal.
posted by running order squabble fest at 10:35 AM on June 30


Hell of a burst by France there. Right now, they've got Nigeria looking lost.
posted by eriko at 10:35 AM on June 30


That's terribly interesting for a 0-0 game.
posted by ersatz at 10:35 AM on June 30


woah again!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 10:36 AM on June 30


Another fantastic Enyeama save. How long can he keep this up?
posted by languagehat at 10:36 AM on June 30


...Not long enough.
posted by languagehat at 10:36 AM on June 30


That was coming, definitely. Les pas maintenant bleus score!
posted by running order squabble fest at 10:36 AM on June 30


ANGRY HISS
posted by elizardbits at 10:36 AM on June 30


And finally!
posted by ersatz at 10:37 AM on June 30


Nice assist by Mustard, and France breaks through. You figure they had to given the way they've been pouring the shots in.
posted by eriko at 10:37 AM on June 30


PASS THE MUSTARD? I DON'T THINK SO.
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 10:37 AM on June 30


ANOTHER shot by Benzema! ANOTHER save by Enyeama! ANOTHER shot by Pogba! It goes through!
posted by ardgedee at 10:37 AM on June 30


I was rooting for Nigeria, but France deserved that and they deserve to win.
posted by languagehat at 10:37 AM on June 30


Mustard couldn't cut it there!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 10:37 AM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Shame, he had a nice save just before then, but that little tap forward was a bad mistake, and he paid for it instantly.
posted by eriko at 10:38 AM on June 30


Oh, nevermind. Pass the mustard, I guess. Booooo!! Come on, Nigeria!
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 10:38 AM on June 30


Goalie was out of the box...why?
posted by travelwithcats at 10:38 AM on June 30


I usually cringe at the thought of last-minute equalizers but I'll confess... I WANT one this time! This game's been a corker and I don't want it to end.
posted by ardgedee at 10:38 AM on June 30


Nigeria is in full blown panic mode right now. They need to play, not panic, if they want a chance at an equalizer.
posted by eriko at 10:39 AM on June 30 [1 favorite]


GK was having a good game until then. Terrible mistake.
posted by josher71 at 10:40 AM on June 30


Only a few more minutes to go, will we see another last minute goal?
posted by travelwithcats at 10:41 AM on June 30


Another nice save by Mustard.
posted by eriko at 10:41 AM on June 30


Great save. super Eagles gotta break quicker if they want a goal.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 10:41 AM on June 30


I've got to lay off my reliance on The Guardian and BBC for World Cup coverage, they're infecting me with Briticism. I don't want it to get to the extent of fatalistic irony and a craving for warm beer.
posted by ardgedee at 10:42 AM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Oh Peter Odemwingie, why couldn't you make some magic?!
posted by josher71 at 10:42 AM on June 30


Goalie was out of the box...why?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 10:42 AM on June 30


Watch the live odds change before your eyes. You can get 500/1 on Nigeria to win the World Cup - if you're quick.
posted by Wordshore at 10:45 AM on June 30


...and also insane. Or believe in miracles.
posted by Wordshore at 10:46 AM on June 30


Stupid foul given the time.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 10:46 AM on June 30


That was a dumb foul.
posted by From Bklyn at 10:47 AM on June 30


Five minutes extra time -- and I think Nigeria just turned a throw in for them into a corner for France.
posted by eriko at 10:48 AM on June 30


5 minutes for Les Bleus to kill
posted by From Bklyn at 10:48 AM on June 30


sob
posted by elizardbits at 10:48 AM on June 30


And, well, that finishes that. Horrible defending there.
posted by eriko at 10:49 AM on June 30


Oh stupid play!
posted by ardgedee at 10:49 AM on June 30


boooooooo
posted by dismas at 10:49 AM on June 30


Oh my god.
posted by From Bklyn at 10:49 AM on June 30


And they put it away for good (with an own goal!). Nigeria wasn't even trying.
posted by languagehat at 10:49 AM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Ooh, unlucky, but Nigeria were surely beat even before that. They are now, anyway.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 10:50 AM on June 30


Really, France?
posted by eriko at 10:50 AM on June 30


This was not the extra-time goal I was looking for.
posted by ardgedee at 10:50 AM on June 30


That makes eleven stoppage-time goals so far.
posted by languagehat at 10:51 AM on June 30


Peep peep PEEP! Alas.
posted by eriko at 10:53 AM on June 30


well at least there will be the hilarity of watching them lose to germany to fall back upon
posted by elizardbits at 10:53 AM on June 30


YES now comes the best part of the match aka where everyone takes off their shirts
posted by elizardbits at 10:54 AM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Oh well. In two hours there's Algeria's opportunity to earn representation for Africa in the quarter finals. Right? ...right?...
posted by ardgedee at 10:56 AM on June 30


@elizardbits How's about a bet?
posted by wensink at 10:58 AM on June 30


well at least there will be the hilarity of watching them lose to germany to fall back upon

It will be interesting to see the center backs that play as full backs for Germany against the quick French players. Might be the game that will test Lahm playing in the midfield too. But there's another game before that - back in a couple of hours.
posted by ersatz at 11:00 AM on June 30


I missed the whole match! *cries a bit*

How was it? were France looking like champions? were Nigeria up and at 'em?
posted by marienbad at 11:05 AM on June 30


We've seen 5 matches so far and each time the group winner emerged victorious. Let's continue with that trend for today. :-)
posted by travelwithcats at 11:08 AM on June 30


Nigeria had many moment of brilliance, but just couldn't get the goal. In the 75th minute, though, they lost it, France poured it on and scored. Nigeria panicked, spent the rest of the game booming balls down the field and not getting real chances. The own goal was a nail in the coffin.
posted by eriko at 11:08 AM on June 30


Algeria for the revenge upset (unlikely as it is!) Get 'em for 1982, Algeria!
posted by lizarrd at 11:16 AM on June 30 [1 favorite]


While we wait, here's an inspiring historical anecdote from the 1962 Copa Libertadores:
In the first leg Santos won 2-1 in Montevideo. In the second leg, deep in the second half Peñarol were leading 3-2. The Chilean referee Carlos Robles was then knocked unconscious by a stone thrown from the stand. Still on the pitch, when he woke up forty minutes later he decided to abandon the game only to be persuaded by the Brazilians to let play continue. Santos equalized in the final moments of the restarted game, but simultaneously one of the linesmen was knocked out by another projectile. Robles disallowed the goal and abandoned the match - which had by now lasted over three hours - and declared the result 3-2 to Peñarol. Santos won the play-off.
Talk about your jogo bonito!
posted by languagehat at 11:27 AM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Mustafi starts instead of Hummels. That's ... unfortunate.
posted by brokkr at 11:31 AM on June 30


But things got even wilder in 1971, when "the Copa Libertadores staged the Battle of the Bombonera":
In the opening rounds of the tournament Boca Juniors were playing the Peruvians Sporting Cristal in Buenos Aires. With the score at 2-2 and just a few minutes from time a mass brawl broke out which resulted in nineteen players being sent off; only the goalkeepers and a Peruvian playing for Boca managed to keep out of it. The city police decided to jail both the Peruvians and the Argentinians for thirty days only for them to be set free by a hastily assembled special judicial commission.
posted by languagehat at 11:39 AM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Nearly there - anyone care for a scoreline predo? Head : 2-1 to Germany. Heart : 2-1 Algeria.
posted by marienbad at 12:57 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Nice historical background there, languagehat! That's just the kind of commentary depth that I expect from a well-disciplined MeFi commentary team, as we have here today. We'll be commenting in a 4-1-4-1 formation, I want to see some good clean commentary going forward - and if it comes to penalties, we've had plenty of practice and we should be able to comment through to the next round. Good luck, everyone!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 12:57 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


I'd prefer if we could avoid any commenting formation that requires wingers.
posted by Dr. Zira at 12:58 PM on June 30


And in my wildest fantasy, Germany fall apart and Algeria thrash them 7-0. Out on Penalties? Your boys took one hell of a beating?

It would be so fucking sweet.
posted by marienbad at 12:58 PM on June 30


Anyone know if the CBC WC feed works in the US? Anyone have, um, a workaround?
posted by wensink at 1:00 PM on June 30


It's a tough call as to which would be the bigger grudge match: Algeria v. France, or France v. Germany.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 1:00 PM on June 30


Let's get some goalkeeper names; we've done fruit, we've done condiments, we need something different from the commentary team. I say fish, one guy is dressed like a salmon.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 1:01 PM on June 30




Anyone know if the CBC WC feed works in the US? Anyone have, um, a workaround?

I had to turn off Mediahint to watch it here in Canada, so it is pretty geo-restricted. You might have a better chance of finding a work-around for the BBC feed.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 1:03 PM on June 30


poor flag there
posted by marienbad at 1:03 PM on June 30


If Germany's in All Black he is hereby dubbed "New Zealand."
posted by eriko at 1:03 PM on June 30


Germany remembers the offside rule. Alas, the lineman isn't as up on it.
posted by eriko at 1:04 PM on June 30


Trying saying Schweinsteiger with a bad German accent. It really sounds like you're cursing someone out.
posted by eriko at 1:05 PM on June 30


You are not allowed to play "Spin the German," Algeria.
posted by eriko at 1:06 PM on June 30


Schweinstiger = Pig-Tiger. true!
posted by marienbad at 1:08 PM on June 30


How about Salmon and Sturgeon?
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:08 PM on June 30


Thanks, marienbad. Ha! I'm actually there, listening to the ZDF feed.
posted by wensink at 1:08 PM on June 30


Shit, that was close! Keeper gambled and could have lost!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 1:09 PM on June 30


Wow, Neuer!! Shades of Schmacher!
posted by marienbad at 1:09 PM on June 30


Wow, New Zealand almost screwed himself badly there. Nice run to save it, but wow, he misjudged that badly.
posted by eriko at 1:09 PM on June 30


I always shake my head when I see a goalkeeper wander so far away from the goal he could be said to be "keeping" it only in a metaphysical sense. Didn't pay for it, though.
posted by languagehat at 1:10 PM on June 30


MURDERSACKER!
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:10 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Mertersacker intercepts jit.

Slimani looks lively - needs some more good service.
posted by marienbad at 1:11 PM on June 30


Okay, I'm going with Salmon and Sturgeon. Unless anyone can think of a country that matches that color.

Germany isn't looking too hot right now -- though they looked sharp just 5 minutes ago.
posted by eriko at 1:11 PM on June 30


Plus, it lets us yell GET IN THE NET, STURGEON!
posted by eriko at 1:11 PM on June 30


Was that a germany throw in to the Algerian keeper? whoa
posted by marienbad at 1:12 PM on June 30


Vote 1 Salmon and Sturgeon, aka one fish/two fish (red fish, blue fish).
posted by the quidnunc kid at 1:13 PM on June 30


The good thing is that if Germany advances to play France, they have already gotten practice here against France B.
posted by brokkr at 1:13 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Games in the knockout phase have a different fibe... It's all a bit more nervous.
posted by Pendragon at 1:13 PM on June 30


Nice stop Salmon!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 1:14 PM on June 30


Wrong decision completely!
posted by marienbad at 1:14 PM on June 30


Oooh silly angle for a shot Algeria, that ball should have come inside.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 1:14 PM on June 30


Wow, hell of a run by Algeria, ruined by a bad shot.
posted by eriko at 1:14 PM on June 30


Tigger is rooting for Germany?
posted by eriko at 1:16 PM on June 30


NO GOAL!
posted by eriko at 1:16 PM on June 30


Fuck that was a great piece of play, save for the offside.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 1:16 PM on June 30


Clearly offside.
posted by Pendragon at 1:16 PM on June 30


And it was the right call. Pretty no goal, but no goal.
posted by eriko at 1:16 PM on June 30


Where is that offside? wow awesome from Algeria. (Ok, on replay he is just offside)
posted by marienbad at 1:17 PM on June 30


Germany saved by offside!
posted by languagehat at 1:17 PM on June 30


Vote 1 Salmon and Sturgeon...

Can we keep the impending Scottish Referendum debate in a different post, please? Thanks.

Expl.: First minister and deputy first minister
posted by Wordshore at 1:17 PM on June 30 [5 favorites]


Nice feed, nice shot, nice save!
posted by eriko at 1:18 PM on June 30


Wow. If Germany doesn't shape up, one of those is going to go in one of these days.
posted by languagehat at 1:18 PM on June 30


Great ball and a decent effort, although better options were available!
posted by marienbad at 1:18 PM on June 30


Good tackle!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 1:19 PM on June 30


Höwedes is tiptop.
posted by ersatz at 1:20 PM on June 30


I am so supporting Algeria that I am getting angry when they mess up.
posted by marienbad at 1:20 PM on June 30


Algeria is hungry for the win. Germany needs to wake up!
posted by travelwithcats at 1:21 PM on June 30


Germany's defense looks very shaky, and Algeria is using its speed to take advantage.
posted by eriko at 1:21 PM on June 30


Sounds like the crowd is a lot more Algeria than Germany? Louder fans or what?
posted by benito.strauss at 1:21 PM on June 30


Lovely stuff from Algeria. pretty football.
posted by marienbad at 1:22 PM on June 30


Why are so many of the seats empty? Or are Germany fans all in black?
posted by ardgedee at 1:22 PM on June 30


Ah, they're all in black. But they're sitting so still and polite that the seats looked empty.
posted by ardgedee at 1:22 PM on June 30 [2 favorites]


This is allready better than the France - Nigeria game.
posted by Pendragon at 1:22 PM on June 30


Revenge + First time in the Knockout stage = Loudest fans ever!
posted by lizarrd at 1:22 PM on June 30


The Germans are shaken, they are misplacing passes.
posted by marienbad at 1:23 PM on June 30


They know what they did. They know what they've done. They feel SHAME. I dunno why I'm rooting for Algeria so hard other than losing Mexico and Chile has affected my brain.
posted by lizarrd at 1:24 PM on June 30


Is it me, or is Germany trying to put a ball into orbit?
posted by eriko at 1:25 PM on June 30


if you're rooting for Algeria, don't you kinda want this game to stay 0-0 for as long possible?
posted by wensink at 1:25 PM on June 30


God, the Univision commentators are very much in Algeria's corner and just love saying Schweinsteiger.
posted by eriko at 1:26 PM on June 30


The Univision commentators never even pretend to be impartial. Makes them fun to listen to, honestly.
posted by joedan at 1:27 PM on June 30


Univision is amazing. Not only are they CLEARLY going for Algeria and LOVE saying Schweinsteiger, but when the German coach got up earlier they started making angry German sounds then giggling uncontrollably. It's quite amusing.
posted by lizarrd at 1:28 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Amazing. Germany are struggling a bit here. Algeria need to push up and push on in wide areas and in the channels
posted by marienbad at 1:28 PM on June 30


Geez. BFG's lack of speed has always been a problem for both Germany and Arsenal. It seems Algeria knows how to exploit this weakness.
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:28 PM on June 30


That's the worst I've seen Germany play since... 2002 and they have half the determination. I'm sure they wouldn't mind were Hummels and Reus healthy.
posted by ersatz at 1:29 PM on June 30


One of the Brazilian commentators on Globo just remarked "That looks like a diaper on his head" when the camera panned to Feghouli and the bandage on his head.
posted by needled at 1:30 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


just love saying Schweinsteiger

Who doesn't?

The German commentators on ZDF heart him too. And we just got a "Mein Gott!" after the last shot on goal from Algeria. The commentators are shaken too.
posted by wensink at 1:30 PM on June 30


They seem to be playing as if they expected a rout and encountered a defense.
posted by ardgedee at 1:30 PM on June 30


I'm embarrassed we lost to Germany if this is how they're playing.
posted by eriko at 1:30 PM on June 30


But I also love to say Schweinsteiger.

SCHWEINSTEIGER....

It just rolls of the tongue.
posted by Pendragon at 1:31 PM on June 30


Dumb Foul, there.
posted by eriko at 1:31 PM on June 30


This is actually how I expected Germany to play against the US. Guess I was off by a game.
posted by Errant at 1:31 PM on June 30


My friend works for univision and she said that all work of any kind has ground to a halt over the past week and shows no sign of resuming until after the final.
posted by elizardbits at 1:32 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Wasted.
posted by marienbad at 1:32 PM on June 30


I admire the way the Germans don't cover their balls when they're on the wall.
posted by eriko at 1:32 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Bad free kick. Wasted.
posted by eriko at 1:33 PM on June 30


Seems like the European teams have the set-pieces down better than the the smaller countries.
posted by shothotbot at 1:33 PM on June 30


That was some lovely ping-pong passing from Algeria.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 1:34 PM on June 30


I personally find Univision commentators rather annoying, which is why I shelled out money for a proxy service that lets me watch Brazilian TV.
posted by needled at 1:34 PM on June 30


Algeria losing control -- they're getting too eager.
posted by eriko at 1:34 PM on June 30


There we go. Ozil and Muller are starting to figure it out.
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:34 PM on June 30


Germans have balls of steel, it is known.
posted by Pendragon at 1:34 PM on June 30


Germany is also fouling and getting away with it.
posted by lizarrd at 1:35 PM on June 30


Well, some of them only have one ball of steel.
posted by marienbad at 1:35 PM on June 30


Ho cambiado de ESPN a Univision. The game just got 10 x more exciting.
posted by benito.strauss at 1:35 PM on June 30


Did Univision just invent "Tiki Täken?" That's brilliant.
posted by eriko at 1:36 PM on June 30


Was that possession stat right? GER at 65%? Feels like the opposite
posted by shothotbot at 1:36 PM on June 30


> Algeria losing control -- they're getting too eager.

Hoping this doesn't turn into a replica of France vs Nigeria, where Nigeria were equals, if not occasionally superior, up until they wore out and got demoralized.
posted by ardgedee at 1:36 PM on June 30


My dream: Germany-Netherlands in the final, and the dutch win: revenge for 1974.
posted by Pendragon at 1:37 PM on June 30


Can we call Ozil Dr Oz?
posted by shothotbot at 1:37 PM on June 30


Höwedes and Mustafi are underwhelming. Very good game from the Algerians so far.
posted by ersatz at 1:37 PM on June 30


help make them stop saying SCHWEINSTEIGER
posted by elizardbits at 1:37 PM on June 30


Is it Tiki Täken or Tiki Tächen? Anyway, yeah they've been joking about that for a while.
posted by lizarrd at 1:37 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Algeria's possession has mainly been on the counter.
posted by marienbad at 1:37 PM on June 30


Actually, I think "Tiki Tächen" is more accurate.

Wow, bit of a howler there by Salmon, but he got lucky.
posted by eriko at 1:37 PM on June 30


Love the Orange Frown!
posted by shothotbot at 1:38 PM on June 30


shothotbot: "Can we call Ozil Dr Oz?"

Oh heavens, no. Ozil does not quack.
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:38 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


I thought it was Ticki-Tacki...
posted by Pendragon at 1:38 PM on June 30


Isn´t Argentina-Netherlands possible too?
posted by ersatz at 1:39 PM on June 30


Wow, one of those pinball shots that nobody knows where it will go. Nice.
posted by eriko at 1:39 PM on June 30


STURGEON PUNCH!
posted by eriko at 1:39 PM on June 30


"Germany getting away with fouls" - yeah, in the Algeria attack earlier where the wide man was offside, I thought the attacker had been pushed over.

What a lovely strike that was. Unlucky it didn't spin into the net.
posted by marienbad at 1:39 PM on June 30


I want Algeria - France
posted by shothotbot at 1:40 PM on June 30


I like the German team and this is coming from a Dane
posted by kariebookish at 1:40 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


How did Germany not take that Gift!
posted by eriko at 1:40 PM on June 30


GREAT DOUBLE SAVE FROM THE SALMON OF NO DOUBT!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 1:40 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


What a massive chance!
posted by ersatz at 1:41 PM on June 30


Argentina-Netherlands would be the semi-final. Revenge for 1978 :-)
posted by Pendragon at 1:41 PM on June 30


"Schweinsteiger mit dem kopf." - ZDF announcer
posted by wensink at 1:41 PM on June 30


Is Neuer Chilean? He plays like he's Chilean.
posted by Errant at 1:41 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Jesus, what a save Algeria!
posted by lizarrd at 1:41 PM on June 30


Brilliant from the Algerian keeper.

And Neuer has done more work in this game than in 90 minutes against the USA and 90 minutes against Portugal.
posted by marienbad at 1:41 PM on June 30


I think Salmon just saved the ball with his crotch.
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:41 PM on June 30


Oh No, Das Gelbkarten!
posted by eriko at 1:42 PM on June 30


Brazilian commentators are having no problems saying "Schweinsteiger," which is in contrast with the problems they were having with Greek players' names yesterday.

Globo commentators are equally excited about good plays from either side (although even they were hating on the Greek style of play yesterday).
posted by needled at 1:42 PM on June 30


Well, that German player went down like he'd been shot.

Don't ... mention ... the ... war
posted by Wordshore at 1:42 PM on June 30 [2 favorites]


I hope Ballack is in the ESPN studio at halftime. He's going to be apoplectic.
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:43 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Germans are getting more confident.
posted by Pendragon at 1:43 PM on June 30


Algeria's mascot is this guy so you know who I'm rooting for.
posted by desjardins at 1:44 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Oh man I'm going to have to switch to ESPN for half-time. Also, yeah Algerian captain fouled, hope that ref starts calling European on non-European fouls now.
posted by lizarrd at 1:44 PM on June 30


The german eagle would eat that fox for breakfast :-)
posted by Pendragon at 1:45 PM on June 30


This game has been yet another great advert for the World Cup.
posted by marienbad at 1:46 PM on June 30


He would be too cute. The German eagle would stop and reconsider his actions and his entire life...and feel shame.
posted by lizarrd at 1:46 PM on June 30


PEEP! Halbzeit! Germany started to put it together in the last 15 minutes. If they keep that up, it's only a matter of time.
posted by eriko at 1:47 PM on June 30


That was OK stuff from the 'Geria, although Germany looked like they were getting a little rhythm going at the end there.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 1:47 PM on June 30


eriko, are you watching a German feed?
posted by ersatz at 1:48 PM on June 30


Algeria can't keep this up. Germany will wear them out: 3-0 for Germany.
posted by Pendragon at 1:49 PM on June 30


Yeah, I think Ozil and Gotze and Muller are figuring out where to deliver the passes.
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:49 PM on June 30


Time for Plan B for Algeria then ;)
posted by marienbad at 1:50 PM on June 30


I'm all for Algeria will be able to keep it up and El Arabe will score. 1-0 Algeria.
posted by lizarrd at 1:50 PM on June 30


Hey, it worked for the dutch :-)
posted by Pendragon at 1:50 PM on June 30


Via BBC - Neuer first half touches

Well, the Dutch went to plan c and it worked!
posted by marienbad at 1:52 PM on June 30


German Matt Damon IS NOT IMPRESSED.
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:52 PM on June 30


Brazilian TV showed a Coca Cola ad, followed by a Hyundai ad, followed by another Coca Cola ad. And now some dude called Tiago Leifert is handling the half-time show.
posted by needled at 1:52 PM on June 30


ZDF feed is streaming on atdhe.net. They also have feeds in Arabic, Italian, French, Norwegian and Portuguese. I would advise accessing the site via a laptop you don't care about. (I've always presumed the site is filled with tons of malware.)
posted by wensink at 1:52 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


The weakest link of the Germans is Mertesacker.
posted by Pendragon at 1:52 PM on June 30


Well, that and lots and lots of diving as admitted by Robben! :P Anyway, Costa Rica will make short work of those guys.
posted by lizarrd at 1:53 PM on June 30


I think that was Plan B. They're going to need Plan C.

Germany really looked bad the first 20 minutes, and not good then next 15, but then they started to put things together. If they play like that in the second half, I don't fancy Algeria's chances.
posted by eriko at 1:53 PM on June 30


So USA fans, watching this performance from the Mannschaft, how do you feel about the USMNT performance against them?

Are we getting our hopes up to have them dashed on the rocks by Germany?
posted by marienbad at 1:55 PM on June 30


Half time review: and it's a solid performance by the MeFi commentary team. Nice, quick comments, good responsiveness under pressure, and I don't think we let much through uncommentated. One or two harsh comments about the war, but no cards yet. All in all I think we're looking good for the second half, and hopefully we won't need to go to penalties because some of us will get a bit tired by then.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 1:56 PM on June 30


Pendragon: "The weakest link of the Germans is Mertesacker."

I doubt Jogi will sub him out though. BFG is slow, but he makes up for it by being good in the air, which will help them on set pieces.
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:56 PM on June 30


Please god, no penalties. I'm still broken from last night... My boss will be so mad if I fall asleep at my desk again :-)
posted by Pendragon at 1:57 PM on June 30 [2 favorites]


I'm still not sure. the USMNT attacks were lame, but the defense was solid. IF Altidore is back and can play, that moves Dempsey back and Bradley back, where they want to play.

But really, the best performance in GER-USA was by the rain -- and of course, Germany didn't need to win, and when Portugal went up 2-1, the US didn't either.
posted by eriko at 1:58 PM on June 30


I'm still skeptical about Jozy's fitness. Hammy injuries suck.
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:59 PM on June 30


Everybody loves saying Schweinsteiger. Up until the 1950s, there were uncontacted cultures in the Amazon that loved saying Schweinsteiger. There are Sumerian jokes recorded in cuneiform, for which the punchline is "Schweinsteiger."
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 2:00 PM on June 30 [5 favorites]


We're going to need to put up a Quarterfinals Thread. This one's getting harder to load, and we've got two more games tomorrow. Maybe we can stick it in MeTa or somewhere safe, I get not wanting to overload the blue with WC posts.
posted by eriko at 2:00 PM on June 30


Knock, Knock?

Who's there?

Schweinsteiger!
posted by eriko at 2:01 PM on June 30 [2 favorites]


I think the USA has a change against Belgium, but they have to score early.
posted by Pendragon at 2:01 PM on June 30


Götze goes off.
posted by eriko at 2:01 PM on June 30


Yeah, maybe contact the mods and do one for QFs one for Semis and a special WC Final thread with loads of links in?
posted by marienbad at 2:02 PM on June 30


I wish we could get fanfare posts for each game.
posted by Pendragon at 2:02 PM on June 30


We're going to need to put up a Quarterfinals Thread. This one's getting harder to load, and we've got two more games tomorrow.

I was thinking of making one about Robben's admission of diving but I'm so lazy
posted by elizardbits at 2:03 PM on June 30


Schurrle on. Not a fan of Goetze myself, Schurrle maybe a better option.
posted by marienbad at 2:03 PM on June 30


I agree re: a new post, eriko. Should we contact the mods?
posted by travelwithcats at 2:03 PM on June 30


We could probably have one thread for the QFs and SFs, even the 3rd place game. The final itself would probably triple all of that.
posted by eriko at 2:03 PM on June 30


Back in the old days we used to hijack little-used MeTa posts for similar purposes, but that probably would get a yellow card in these stricter times.
posted by languagehat at 2:04 PM on June 30


Nice catch, Salmon!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:05 PM on June 30


If Germany keeps playing like this, Algeria is doomed.
posted by eriko at 2:05 PM on June 30


Robben didn't admit to diving for the foul he got a penalty for. He admitted to diving in the first half.
posted by Pendragon at 2:05 PM on June 30


That was a good idea, and they get a corner from it.
posted by marienbad at 2:06 PM on June 30


Wow, route 1 from the Germans.
posted by marienbad at 2:06 PM on June 30


This thread will implode under the weight of Belgium - USA.
posted by ersatz at 2:06 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


I say that, and Algeria comes up with a break....
posted by eriko at 2:07 PM on June 30


Back in the old days we used to hijack little-used MeTa posts for similar purposes, but that probably would get a yellow card in these stricter times

If there's one thing I cannot contemplate, it's irrelevance in MetaTalk threads. Imagine!

Anyway - this is some TRUE "end to end" stuff right now.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:08 PM on June 30


Again the decision making is off. Should have played it in sooner maybe.
posted by marienbad at 2:08 PM on June 30


Schürrle they should have scored from one of those!
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 2:08 PM on June 30


Relevant to our Arjen Robben-related diving interests. [Link is to FB post from Man-News.com]
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:08 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


I'll write the Mod's after the game and ask for suggestions.

We could use this thread tonight to build up a good QF/SF FPP.
posted by eriko at 2:09 PM on June 30


Seriously? No yellow for Schweinsteiger? Bah.
posted by lizarrd at 2:09 PM on June 30


Neuer is the most South American goalie I've ever seen from Europe.
posted by brokkr at 2:10 PM on June 30


I REALLY want to see someone chip Sturgeon from halfway, that'd learn 'im.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:10 PM on June 30


Okay, I have to admit that was funny, Dr. Zira :-)
posted by Pendragon at 2:10 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


WOW, close from Lahm.
posted by Pendragon at 2:11 PM on June 30


That was a fucking great save!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:11 PM on June 30


Nice save by Salmon -- I'm pretty sure that was catching the corner. Hell of a strike.
posted by eriko at 2:11 PM on June 30


Germany go through the gears and its a great effort and again Rais saves. A poor corner though.
posted by marienbad at 2:11 PM on June 30


That was an upstream effort by Salmon, but he made it up the ladder and as the game bears down upon him he's sure to spawn even more brilliant moves!
posted by ardgedee at 2:12 PM on June 30 [2 favorites]


Neuer is the most South American goalie I've ever seen from Europe.

The keeper-as-sweeper has been a feature of Northern European football as well - Harald Schumacher played a fair amount outside his box, and Peter Schmeichel of Denmark...

(I think Neuer, specifically, would say he'd rather not be coming out of his box, but his defence is forcing him to...)
posted by running order squabble fest at 2:13 PM on June 30


Schweinsteiger Mannschaft.

snicker
posted by eriko at 2:13 PM on June 30


When the Algerians whistle, it's as though I am transported back in time to a John McEnroe match from the 1980s.
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:14 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Oh for Christ's sake, Algeria, I know you don't want to lose, but try to make a decent decision in the final third please, and get up and support the attack a bit more.
posted by marienbad at 2:15 PM on June 30


German goal can't be far off.
posted by Pendragon at 2:16 PM on June 30


I don't remember Schmeichel getting that much outside the box. Then again, he started out as a striker so he definitely knew how to play as a field player.
posted by brokkr at 2:16 PM on June 30


Algeria's lost confidence. They keep just dumping it back to the keeper and blasting it forward, praying that it'll bounce to them. That's not a winning strategy.
posted by eriko at 2:18 PM on June 30


Algeria's playing like they're a goal ahead, but they're not.
posted by benito.strauss at 2:20 PM on June 30


Do you know how you become a keeper ? You start as a striker, but you're not good enough, so they place you in midfield. You fail in midfield so you become a defender. When you're not good enough for that they put you in the goal :-)
posted by Pendragon at 2:20 PM on June 30


I just assumed they sprouted from the earth with perfect hair like Ochoa.
posted by lizarrd at 2:22 PM on June 30


Nice hustle saving the corner there by Algeria.
posted by eriko at 2:22 PM on June 30


Wow, where is his hand?
posted by eriko at 2:24 PM on June 30


What is he doing to Mustaphi?
posted by marienbad at 2:24 PM on June 30


What happened to Mustafi?
posted by languagehat at 2:25 PM on June 30


I think Mustafi blew his hamstring there.
posted by eriko at 2:25 PM on June 30


I think Algeria are OK here, they're more tired than the first half but their defending is still pretty tight and you only need to convert one chance on the break. Still anybody's game.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:25 PM on June 30


He just pulled an Altidore, it seems.
posted by brokkr at 2:25 PM on June 30


The commentator is talking a lot about a German elf that can win the game for Germany. Probably Glorfindel arriving resplendent on his horse.
posted by ersatz at 2:25 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


i hope it is thranduil on his party elk
posted by elizardbits at 2:26 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Gotta laugh that that elf link is on en.wikipedia
posted by marienbad at 2:27 PM on June 30


What a performance from Neuer though!
posted by ersatz at 2:28 PM on June 30


I just saw a laser dot on Sturgeon. Wish they'd find the asshole and store the laser in a safe, rectal place.
posted by eriko at 2:28 PM on June 30


Just looked out the window, I should pay attention to the weather too.
posted by eriko at 2:29 PM on June 30


The difference between having goetze on and schurrle on is amazing. And surely Slimani is going to flick one over Neuer soon.
posted by marienbad at 2:30 PM on June 30


That was a nice try, but not on target.
posted by eriko at 2:30 PM on June 30


It's en.wiktionary, not en.wikipedia. It's weird, but I enjoy looking up a word and discoverint that it means something completely different in Lithuanian.
posted by benito.strauss at 2:30 PM on June 30


Damn!
posted by languagehat at 2:31 PM on June 30


Well you came and you gave without taking
And I sent you away, oh Mandi

posted by Dr. Zira at 2:31 PM on June 30 [2 favorites]


Ah, fucking hell.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:31 PM on June 30


Algeria is attacking well; let's hope something comes of it.
posted by languagehat at 2:31 PM on June 30


Wow, three quick runs for Algeria.
posted by eriko at 2:31 PM on June 30


Damn Sturgeon's distribution is AMAZEBALLS
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:32 PM on June 30


Wow. Great off the ball running by the Germans and a poor cross, followed by a fantastic attack by Algeria, but yet again, well you know what I am going to say
posted by marienbad at 2:32 PM on June 30


Germany is looking distinctly slow right now.
posted by eriko at 2:33 PM on June 30


Ball just died.
posted by brokkr at 2:34 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


< 15 mins left
posted by marienbad at 2:35 PM on June 30


Don't get fooled by the Germans, they always score in the last 15 minutes.We have a saying in the Netherlands: "a football match lasts 90 minutes, and at the end the Germans win."
posted by Pendragon at 2:36 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


SALMON IS THE KING
posted by marienbad at 2:36 PM on June 30


Another great stop. Salmon is supercool about it too.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:36 PM on June 30


Holy mother of God.
posted by languagehat at 2:36 PM on June 30


Wow. Nice save by Salmon, and then by Belkamen!
posted by eriko at 2:36 PM on June 30


I'll have to look to our local official to confirm this, but I believe every day of elimination round matches is required to have one go to penalty kicks.
posted by ardgedee at 2:37 PM on June 30


I just almost knocked my computer onto the floor.
posted by syncope at 2:37 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


What a counter!
posted by marienbad at 2:37 PM on June 30


This is the most thrilling 0-0!
posted by running order squabble fest at 2:37 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


dude blocked that second try with his groin, algerians are officially super hardcore
posted by elizardbits at 2:37 PM on June 30 [2 favorites]


Algeria keeps getting great runs in and then takes crap shots. I think Sturgeon's been challenged once.
posted by eriko at 2:37 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


The stats are well in Germany's favor. They just need a sec to get into the groove with Khedira.
posted by travelwithcats at 2:37 PM on June 30


Gary Lineker speaks Dutch?
posted by brokkr at 2:37 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Muller !!!!! SO CLOSE!!!
posted by Pendragon at 2:37 PM on June 30


No one has their best shooting boots on!
posted by marienbad at 2:38 PM on June 30


Müller shanks that. I thought it was offsides, but the refs disagreed.
posted by eriko at 2:38 PM on June 30


Don't get fooled by the Germans, they always score in the last 15 minutes.We have a saying in the Netherlands: "a football match lasts 90 minutes, and at the end the Germans win."

Gary van Lineker, no?
posted by ersatz at 2:38 PM on June 30


I cannot believe the Germans haven't actually scored.
posted by languagehat at 2:38 PM on June 30


Okay I can't take it anymore.
/loads univision app
/kisses data limit goodbye
posted by Big_B at 2:39 PM on June 30


Bad giveaway gives Germany a corner.
posted by eriko at 2:40 PM on June 30


10 minutes to go and Algeria are now getting 8:1 odds for a win.
posted by wensink at 2:40 PM on June 30


Ozil hasn't been great in the 2nd half.
posted by marienbad at 2:40 PM on June 30


Just wait, they will.
posted by travelwithcats at 2:40 PM on June 30


So if Germany wins it's sausages and beer, but what should we eat if Algeria wins?
posted by needled at 2:40 PM on June 30


im gonna eat peanut butter out of the jar because it's either that or dog biscuits
posted by elizardbits at 2:42 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Ghoulash... no, wait.
posted by marienbad at 2:42 PM on June 30


Mint tea and merguez.
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:42 PM on June 30


Wow, I never knew that was a Gary Lineker quote. You learn something every day.
posted by Pendragon at 2:42 PM on June 30


Nothing, it's Ramadan.
posted by brokkr at 2:42 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


> So if Germany wins it's sausages and beer, but what should we eat if Algeria wins?

Mergez and couscous!
posted by ardgedee at 2:43 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


> Nothing, it's Ramadan.

If it's after sunset where you are, mangia.
posted by ardgedee at 2:43 PM on June 30


Couscous

delicious delicious couscous
posted by edgeways at 2:43 PM on June 30


Ha ha! You fell over!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:44 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Müller FFS!
posted by brokkr at 2:45 PM on June 30


Schürrle this!
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 2:45 PM on June 30


The Univision commentators are getting impatient with the refs. "Stop talking and let them play!"
posted by joedan at 2:45 PM on June 30


Sturgeon swims out and clears another one!
posted by eriko at 2:45 PM on June 30


Sturgeon doesn't just come off his line he comes off EVERYBODY'S LINE
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:45 PM on June 30


This is a strange game.
posted by languagehat at 2:45 PM on June 30


That's a GIF.
posted by benito.strauss at 2:45 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Wow, close.
posted by eriko at 2:46 PM on June 30


Ok, overtime seems likely.
posted by Pendragon at 2:46 PM on June 30


Four more minutes fishing for a goal.
posted by eriko at 2:46 PM on June 30


4 added minutes!
posted by ardgedee at 2:46 PM on June 30


Vier minuten!
posted by languagehat at 2:47 PM on June 30


What are the current odds on Germany winning the World Cup?
posted by marienbad at 2:47 PM on June 30


Norwegian Computing Center says 15.4% probability of German WC win.
posted by brokkr at 2:48 PM on June 30


why are there no predicting animals yet this year

who will take on paul the octopus' important role
posted by elizardbits at 2:50 PM on June 30


This corner kick scares me.
posted by languagehat at 2:50 PM on June 30




Tyskland is perfect!

Wow, again the Algerians stop the Germans,
posted by marienbad at 2:50 PM on June 30


where is larry the football llama spitting thoughtfully on the chosen team's flag
posted by elizardbits at 2:50 PM on June 30


Peep Peep PEEP! Game's so good we ordered an extra 30 minutes!
posted by eriko at 2:50 PM on June 30


...but no problem.
posted by languagehat at 2:50 PM on June 30


OK, extra fucking time again. THANKS OBAMA. I'm getting a beer.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:51 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


New ruling: every game needs ET and/or goal in injury time.
posted by ersatz at 2:52 PM on June 30


"Where is larry the football llama"

At Jeff Minter's house.
posted by marienbad at 2:52 PM on June 30


BRB, switching from beer to gin.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 2:53 PM on June 30


Bring back Golden Goal and take a player off from each side every 5 minutes.
posted by marienbad at 2:53 PM on June 30


Pelé looks really, really high in that Subway spot.
posted by wensink at 2:53 PM on June 30


Ok, this is serious. Getting my good wine.
posted by ersatz at 2:53 PM on June 30


I want to see a Subway ad with a really really twitchy Maradona.
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:54 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


German Matt Damon has used too much product again and his enormous head is glistening ominously beneath the studio lights
posted by elizardbits at 2:56 PM on June 30


Bring back Golden Goal and take a player off from each side every 5 minutes.

We could have a big wheel to spin to say who to take off.
posted by eriko at 2:57 PM on June 30


Fuck!!!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:58 PM on June 30


Boom.
posted by kariebookish at 2:58 PM on June 30


Goal for Germany!
posted by travelwithcats at 2:58 PM on June 30


Ich will mein tanzbein schwingen!
posted by Dr. Zira at 2:58 PM on June 30


damn
posted by marienbad at 2:58 PM on June 30


And there it goes.
posted by ersatz at 2:58 PM on June 30


There it is. One of those crosses was bound to find a german foot.
posted by eriko at 2:58 PM on June 30


noooo
posted by elizardbits at 2:59 PM on June 30


German Matt Damon

ITYM Die Deutchesdamon.
posted by eriko at 2:59 PM on June 30


Salmon got smoked
posted by shothotbot at 2:59 PM on June 30


Come on Al.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 2:59 PM on June 30


I am not pleased.
posted by languagehat at 3:01 PM on June 30


FFS Schürrle, couldn't you have scored that before we had to sit through extra time?
posted by brokkr at 3:01 PM on June 30


How often have Germany taken the lead and then lost do you reckon?
posted by marienbad at 3:02 PM on June 30


Look at that German crowd. You know who else made a German crowd cheer?

HASSELHOFF.

Just sayin'.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:02 PM on June 30 [2 favorites]


elizardbits: "German Matt Damon has used too much product again and his enormous head is glistening ominously beneath the studio lights"

For comparison, this is what he looked like during the 2012 Euros with much less product.
TRIGGER WARNING: Alexi Lalas sideburns.
posted by Dr. Zira at 3:03 PM on June 30


Jaaaaaawohl!
posted by brokkr at 3:04 PM on June 30


Hurrah, a half decent cross at last
posted by marienbad at 3:05 PM on June 30


Oh Christ, brokkr, I actually clicked on that.
posted by marienbad at 3:06 PM on June 30 [2 favorites]


@ Dr. Zira Will Maradona reffing a foosball game between Pelé and Zidane do?
posted by wensink at 3:06 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Offsides -- rare German mistake there.
posted by eriko at 3:06 PM on June 30


ooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!
posted by marienbad at 3:07 PM on June 30


Oh, so close on that corner.
posted by eriko at 3:08 PM on June 30


fuck again, but for a different reason!!!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:08 PM on June 30


Slimani you are not the keeper FFS
posted by marienbad at 3:08 PM on June 30


These corners worry me. Germany are going to get another goal before the half-hour's up, aren't they?
posted by languagehat at 3:09 PM on June 30


Cross to the penalty spot and...nobody's there at all.
posted by eriko at 3:10 PM on June 30


Oh come on Algeria, the guy was in acres of space for ages there.
posted by marienbad at 3:12 PM on June 30


PEEP peep peep! Third quarter is over!
posted by eriko at 3:13 PM on June 30


Come on Al, find some energy! Last push! 15 mins for a last chance!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:13 PM on June 30


Algeria make this happen. You've got attacking just get it in that goal.
posted by lizarrd at 3:14 PM on June 30


Dirty celebrity time. Jogi Löw? I got Mare Winningham in drag.
posted by wensink at 3:16 PM on June 30


Damn, Lahm, buy him dinner first!
posted by eriko at 3:17 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Too much on that free kick.
posted by eriko at 3:17 PM on June 30


Jesus, Lahm, dude that's a bit forward don't you think?
posted by lizarrd at 3:18 PM on June 30


Schweinsteiger has krampenleg again.
posted by eriko at 3:18 PM on June 30


Lahm telegraphed the invitation with his eyebrows but he still wasn't picking up the hint.
posted by Dr. Zira at 3:19 PM on June 30


Kramer plays for Borussia Munchengladbach! That's a name from the past.
posted by marienbad at 3:19 PM on June 30


Krampenleg delivers coal to all the naughty German children.
posted by Dr. Zira at 3:19 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


They may not have the likes of Effenberg anymore, but they're still doing fairly well in the league.
posted by brokkr at 3:20 PM on June 30


Have Algeria ever taken a cross before today? Or even heard of them? FFS
posted by marienbad at 3:20 PM on June 30


Good call -- barely offsides, but offsides.
posted by eriko at 3:20 PM on June 30


brokkr - 1977 LFC 3 - 1 Borussia Munchengladbach. I was only a kid.
posted by marienbad at 3:21 PM on June 30


We have a saying in the Netherlands: Football is war. And I'm sure that's not a Lineker quote :-)
posted by Pendragon at 3:21 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Hehe. (I also think Gladbach is fairly well known in the UK because there used to be a large RAF base nearby.)

By the way, I just looked up Effenberg and it turns out he got 109 yellow cards in 360 Bundesliga games, which is an all-time record. Der Tiger.
posted by brokkr at 3:23 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


The Germans are going to win, you can just feel it.
posted by marienbad at 3:23 PM on June 30


What is that the crowd are singing?
posted by marienbad at 3:25 PM on June 30


Yeah, it felt like that even before they got the goal.
posted by languagehat at 3:25 PM on June 30


It's felt like that since 12 June.
posted by brokkr at 3:26 PM on June 30


The coach should put a jersey on and play for Algeria. Nice reflexes!
posted by ersatz at 3:26 PM on June 30


It's felt like that since 1762.
posted by languagehat at 3:26 PM on June 30


Algeria have certainly given it everything. And still are!!!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:27 PM on June 30


If Algeria had an offense as creative as their defense, think what they could have done!
posted by ardgedee at 3:28 PM on June 30


Fuck that was a good pass.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:28 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Yeah, no one could accuse them of lying down and playing dead.
posted by languagehat at 3:28 PM on June 30


Knew that was coming.
posted by languagehat at 3:29 PM on June 30


They think it's all over..... It is now !!!
posted by Pendragon at 3:29 PM on June 30


poop
posted by elizardbits at 3:29 PM on June 30


Germany scores again! Yes!
posted by travelwithcats at 3:29 PM on June 30


WOOOOOTTT! Mesut and Neuer and Mertesacker are on my Fantasy Team!
posted by Dr. Zira at 3:29 PM on June 30


Oh, poo poo.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:29 PM on June 30


Poop and biscuits. Damn. Algeria you did so damn well. I wish your attack was as good as your defense.
posted by lizarrd at 3:30 PM on June 30


There it is.

Germany has just owned the extra time.

Algeria has nothing to be ashamed of -- good run in the tournament. I'll miss them.
posted by eriko at 3:30 PM on June 30


Oh well. Well Done Algeria, you were outstanding and very entertaining. France v Germany then. Don't mention the you know what.
posted by marienbad at 3:30 PM on June 30


MESUT GOALZIL!
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 3:30 PM on June 30


[Unfortunately I captained Muller]
posted by Dr. Zira at 3:30 PM on June 30


OH MY GOD
posted by elizardbits at 3:31 PM on June 30


PRIDE!
posted by ardgedee at 3:31 PM on June 30


Comeback!!!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:31 PM on June 30


NOW Algeria scores. Well, damn.
posted by eriko at 3:31 PM on June 30


where was that like an hour ago sob
posted by elizardbits at 3:31 PM on June 30


Well crap. There went the points for my clean sheet.
posted by Dr. Zira at 3:31 PM on June 30


Wow, finally they get a goal. Deserved it too.,
posted by marienbad at 3:31 PM on June 30


54 Sekunden noch.
posted by ersatz at 3:31 PM on June 30


NOW!? NOW OF ALL TIMES!?
posted by lizarrd at 3:31 PM on June 30


Good god. If only...
posted by languagehat at 3:32 PM on June 30


muller you douche oh my god
posted by elizardbits at 3:32 PM on June 30


Holy shit, if he could have gotten anything on that, it would have been the greatest comeback ever. but peep peep PEEP!
posted by eriko at 3:32 PM on June 30


Holy shit, Algeria!
posted by JenMarie at 3:32 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Welp, that was loads of fun. See y'all tomorrow!
posted by languagehat at 3:32 PM on June 30


Yay! Germany v. France. It will be like half of an Arsenal scrimmage.
posted by Dr. Zira at 3:32 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Good game Algeria, but deserved win for Germany! Farewell, Fennecs.
posted by travelwithcats at 3:33 PM on June 30


Well, I have to run out. See you all tomorrow!
posted by eriko at 3:33 PM on June 30


Four cheers for Algeria!!! But, congratulations Germany, good game.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:33 PM on June 30


Auf Weidersehn, Algeria, pet. And see you all tomorrow.
posted by marienbad at 3:33 PM on June 30


Aww... glad Algeria got a goal, but yeah. France must be feeling a lot better than they did two hours ago.
posted by running order squabble fest at 3:33 PM on June 30


Morally, Algeria won that game. Nothing at all to be ashamed of.
posted by Thing at 3:34 PM on June 30


new thread for tomorrow plz
posted by elizardbits at 3:34 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


Looking forward to the USA v Belgium game, various American breakfast institutions finally acknowledge that soccer exists and is a bandwagon they ought to be hitching a ride on:

Waffle House says Boycott Belgian Waffles.
Bojangles hires the most awkward looking eagle in the history of Photoshop to retort: Fuck waffles. Biscuits!
posted by ardgedee at 3:34 PM on June 30


I have to say this World Cup is one of the best so far. And the supporters of Algeria were top notch.
posted by ersatz at 3:34 PM on June 30 [1 favorite]


kung fu fighting
posted by robocop is bleeding at 3:35 PM on June 30


Well, Germany wears its shame like a flag to score its goals. Algeria, well freaking done. Germany shown to not be the absolute beasts everyone thinks they're supposed to be.
posted by lizarrd at 3:36 PM on June 30


See you all tomorrow.
posted by Pendragon at 3:36 PM on June 30


Germany v. France in the quarters!

Remember the Marne!

Or Sedan!

Or the Ruhr!

Or Alsace-Lorraine!

Or Something!
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 3:37 PM on June 30


Aye, I'll be boycotting Belgian Waffles and singing the praises of my imperial owners! USA! USA!
posted by lizarrd at 3:38 PM on June 30


Aye, I'll be boycotting Belgian Waffles and singing the praises of my imperial owners! USA! USA!


Technically, all waffles are Belgian. You'll have to start calling them "Freedom Fritters" or something.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 3:40 PM on June 30


Great performance from the MeFi commentary team again, surely on track for the final. See you tomorrow, when I will be mobile-commenting from various parts of central London while attending various drinks events, some of which in honour of Canada's national day, which is Moose Day. I think they ritually disembowel a live Moose and dance around covered in its entrails, or something. Dress code is lounge suit.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:43 PM on June 30


It'll be my birthday as well, so drink one for me. Also, Argentina better win or they'll spoil my special day.
posted by languagehat at 3:46 PM on June 30


Damnit, good thing I don't generally eat waffles. Freedom Fluffies! At least we'll have Jozy back.
posted by lizarrd at 3:46 PM on June 30


Germany v. France in the quarters!

Remember the Marne!

Or Sedan!

Or the Ruhr!

Or Alsace-Lorraine!

Or Something!


Remember Verdun (843)!
posted by Thing at 3:48 PM on June 30 [2 favorites]


It'll be my birthday as well, so drink one for me

I sure will! And Happy Birthday!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:49 PM on June 30


Can someone explain to me about all the offsides? Was it an Algeria fuckup? Was Germany luring them? An overzealous linesman? So curious! (And apologies if I missed it before.)
posted by dame at 3:53 PM on June 30


Ah, tomorrow. The end of the Round of 16. And the match of Belgium vs the former Western Colonies of the United Kingdom. Should be fun :)

See y'all here. Sweet dreams.
posted by Wordshore at 3:55 PM on June 30




Good morning! Today we find out the full line-up for the Semi Finals as we reach...

Round of 16: Matches 7 and 8

The state of the bookmaker odds, and the Guardians preview of todays matches.

First today - noon USA eastern time - we have Argentina (1/2) against Switzerland (6/1). The BBC have some team news, and a match preview and facts. In the Guardian, it is Messi time and the BBC focuses on the Swiss player backgrounds.

At 4pm USA eastern time it's Belgium (1/1) against the United States of America (3/1). Again, the BBC summary, plus a preview from Mashable and how Americans see football. If it goes to penalties, then the USA will be hoping for a little more accuracy than in 1994.

The winners of todays matches face-off in the Quarter Finals on Saturday at noon USA Eastern. Random fact: the USA coach is a fully-qualified baker.
posted by Wordshore at 12:03 AM on July 1


Another Random Fact: The current England manager hasn't got a fucking clue. Tactics: Inept.

Are we still here, or utilising infini's thread, or did someone contact the mods re a new thread as this one is getting unwieldy.
posted by marienbad at 2:03 AM on July 1


Guessing still here for today. We're still in the Round of 16, and there's around 70 MetaFilter threads that have more comments, some of them several times more. Works fine on my 5.5 year old iPhone.

However, thinking there's a case for a new post/thread for each round (quarter, semi, final) to account for probable increased commenting. Mods call, perhaps.
posted by Wordshore at 3:23 AM on July 1


You can always click the magical recent comments updater bar thingy that appears when there are more comments to view; you only need reload the page when you're actually posting a comment.

So I'm content staying lodged here at least for the rest of the current round.
posted by ardgedee at 3:48 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


Any goalie predictions? I am thinking a foppish pale tobacco for the US parried by Belgium's daring polka dot confection which quickly wins over the neutrals.
posted by shothotbot at 5:57 AM on July 1


i doan no why peebles say no eat waffles or drink belgian beers this is hows u consume their power and destro there soles I AM VERY POWERFUL AND ALSO REEL FULL RITE NOW
posted by robocop is bleeding at 6:18 AM on July 1


I'm predicting the USA goalkeeper isn't going to have the happiest match of his career. Hope I'm wrong, though.
posted by Wordshore at 6:20 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


I'm already comfy in this thread with you mefites but let me know if there's a change.
posted by josher71 at 6:25 AM on July 1


I'm predicting the USA goalkeeper isn't going to have the happiest match of his career.

YOU STOP TALKING ABOUT TIMMY HO RIGHT NOW!

BTW: Because Tim Howard shortens to Timmy Ho, and Tim Hortors shortens to Timmy Ho, and Timmy Ho sells donuts, I hereby nickname our glorious goalkeeper Timbits.

SO YOU STOP TALKING ABOUT TIMBITS RIGHT NOW!

We'll figure out the other one when we see him, of course.
posted by eriko at 7:06 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


We don't have Tim Horton's in Maryland.
posted by josher71 at 7:25 AM on July 1


Geoff or Omar at CB is the question.
posted by josher71 at 7:27 AM on July 1


> SO YOU STOP TALKING ABOUT TIMBITS RIGHT NOW!

timbits are canuckistani product eat american donuts you betrayer
posted by ardgedee at 7:39 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


Because Tim Howard shortens to Timmy Ho, and Tim Hortors shortens to Timmy Ho, and Timmy Ho sells donuts,

Obviously we should call him Double Double in some sort of MeFi semantic slang
posted by shothotbot at 7:39 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


Actually this morning I made an early morning run to one of our local-source artisanal breakfastaterias and brought home some biscuit sandwiches, donuts, and a cronut. For science. And patriotism.
posted by ardgedee at 7:40 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


@shothotbot Belgian goalkeep Thibaut Courtois' kit for today's game has already been released. Pic.
posted by wensink at 7:49 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


I was dating a girl from Durham NC for a short amount of time this summer and when I came down to visit from Baltimore I told her that the number one thing I wanted was a good biscuit since that isn't a common thing here. She took me to Rise and I was absolutely not disappointed.
posted by josher71 at 7:54 AM on July 1


Yo MeFi US fans, I’m really happy for you and Imma let you finish, but Argentina-Switzerland is the most important match of all time. OF ALL TIME. So can we talk about Messi for a while?
posted by languagehat at 7:54 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


> She took me to Rise and I was absolutely not disappointed.

She didn't love you enough to take you to Scratch, then.

(It's hard to get a bad biscuit here -- even Biscuitville is passable and Bojangles will do in a pinch, but it's easy to pick a fight about biscuits hereabouts.)
posted by ardgedee at 8:00 AM on July 1


Anyway, for the USA vs Belgium game the real issue is obviously not biscuits. It's beer.
posted by ardgedee at 8:03 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


So can we talk about Messi for a while?
Turns out he's pretty good.
posted by dyobmit at 8:11 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


ardgedee: "Anyway, for the USA vs Belgium game the real issue is obviously not biscuits. It's beer."
Yeah, sorry, Belgium wins that one hands down.
posted by brokkr at 8:14 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


> Turns out he's pretty good.

Thanks, that was a great read: "In other words, if Barca-Messi and Argentina-Messi were two different people, even based solely on the stats recorded since 2010, there’s a good chance they’d be the two best players in the world."
posted by languagehat at 8:22 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


ardgedee: (It's hard to get a bad biscuit here -- even Biscuitville is passable and Bojangles will do in a pinch, but it's easy to pick a fight about biscuits hereabouts.)

The worst thing about living in Raleigh is that all the best biscuit places seem to be in Durham or Chapel Hill. I'm partial to Sunrise, myself.
posted by Rock Steady at 8:24 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


I feel like liveblogging in infini's other more broad topic thread would be not super excellent tbh but at the same time this thread is becoming as large and unwieldy as German Matt Damon's head.
posted by elizardbits at 8:26 AM on July 1


so im conflicted
posted by elizardbits at 8:26 AM on July 1


We should arrange a "Great Triangle Biscuit Tour" Meetup, ardgedee.

Which is this other thread people are talking about? I cannot find it.
posted by Rock Steady at 8:27 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


from The Guardian's Minute by Minute report
Argentina haven't won a major trophy since they lifted the Copa America in 1993. Supporters of the England football team, starved of success for 48 years, may be inclined to instruct Argentinian fans to cry them a river as long and wide and deep as the Paraná. But fair's fair: Argentina are a serious football nation, and actually should be winning stuff. That 21-year wait is way too long for la Albiceleste; it's about that time. But you sense they've been waiting for a reason: the unearthing of a new hero to fill El Diego's boots. Well, it's beginning to look like they've found one. Lionel Messi's achieved just about everything in football bar making a serious impression on the biggest tournament of all. Now it appears he's ready to make that mark. He glides in from the right against Bosnia and Herzegovina and BOOM! He drops a shoulder in the last-minute of a struggle with Iran, looks for the top corner, then BOOM! He wanders onto the field in that insouciant way of his and sees off a spirited Nigeria with a DOUBLE BOOM! Three matches down, four to go, and he'll be safe and snug in the pantheon alongside Maradona, Mario Kempes and Antonio Rattin
posted by shothotbot at 8:28 AM on July 1


People, people, it's simple.

Colombia has to beat Argentina, Belgium the US, so then once Belgium beats Colombia and we finally end Costa Rica's run (which won't be easy as they beat a van Gaal Dutch team featuring Robben once before), we can have a Diutch-Belgian semi final.

Then on to the Dutch-German final of course.
posted by MartinWisse at 8:31 AM on July 1 [2 favorites]


We should arrange a "Great Triangle Biscuit Tour" Meetup, ardgedee.

Okay guys, I get it, you want to make me homesick. Good job everyone.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 8:31 AM on July 1


By the way, for my birthday my lovely wife got me Jonathan Wilson's Inverting The Pyramid: The History of Soccer Tactics, highly recommended by various MeFites, so I'm looking forward to learning more about the Beautiful Game even as I watch this great Cup.
posted by languagehat at 8:37 AM on July 1 [2 favorites]


> We should arrange a "Great Triangle Biscuit Tour" Meetup, ardgedee.

Breakfast meetup? Sounds good to me. We should try Wimpy's Burgers for biscuits. I haven't tried theirs yet.

Sunrise Biscuit Kitchen has the best biscuits, but gets two demerits for offering nowhere to eat and for the insides of their biscuits being pretty prosaic, actually. Still, an extra half-credit for being the cheapest of the best.
posted by ardgedee at 8:37 AM on July 1


My wife made biscuits for me this morning, so there!
posted by languagehat at 8:41 AM on July 1


ALL THIS BISCUIT TALK IS TEARING ME APART!
posted by josher71 at 8:43 AM on July 1


> Yeah, sorry, Belgium wins that one hands down.

The hand holding the Stella bottle or the hand holding the Juliper bottle?
posted by ardgedee at 8:44 AM on July 1


There's plenty of absolutely terrible American beer, but the current state of American beer makes it far from a hands down case for Belgium. Their beer is good, our beer is good; we should both be happy with our nation's contribution to beer.

Also, we're going to tear down those fuckers and build a giant monument to Freedom on their still warm corpses.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 8:47 AM on July 1


Your historical tidbit for this morning:
Brazilian football, always a volatile affair, appeared to be spiralling out of control. From the mid-1960s throughout the early 1970s the Rio championship saw more and more players sent off for violent conduct every year. In the decisive game of the 1964 Rio-São Paulo tournament Botafogo played Santos. A fight started that quickly spread. Three players, including the normally mild mannered and unflappable Pelé, were sent off simultaneously. Nine Flamengo players walked together when, at 3-0 down to tiny Bangu in the final of the 1966 Rio state championship, they exploded around the referee in a frenzy of anger and pushing. The following year saw twenty-one dismissed simultaneously in a game between Vasco and Fluminense. Finally in 1968 the full twenty-two were sent from the field in a vicious Olaria versus América game.
I would love to see a video of all players being sent off!
posted by languagehat at 8:49 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


Nearly time ... so what's your scores for tonight's games?
posted by marienbad at 8:53 AM on July 1


And were off...
posted by marienbad at 9:00 AM on July 1


wtf is up with espn's livestream, why is it being filmed from the ISS without commentary
posted by elizardbits at 9:01 AM on July 1


Are you watching the "prematch coverage" event, it's always like that.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 9:04 AM on July 1


I HOPE I AM NOT TOO LATE TO MAKE THE SWISS MISS PUN BECAUSE I REALLY WANT TO
posted by robocop is bleeding at 9:04 AM on July 1


Djourou described as "nervous-looking." THAT'S JUST HOW HE LOOKS!
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 9:05 AM on July 1


Yeah I reloaded the app and it's fine now. Stupid apps.
posted by elizardbits at 9:05 AM on July 1


> Their beer is good, our beer is good; we should both be happy with our nation's contribution to beer.

We should, however, concede Belgium's superiority on pommes frites.
posted by ardgedee at 9:06 AM on July 1


YOU CAN DO IT IF I CAN DO "DON'T CRY FOR ARGENTINA"
posted by Rock Steady at 9:06 AM on July 1


The Swiss look nonplussed.
posted by Pendragon at 9:06 AM on July 1


We haven't migrated to the new thread?
posted by benito.strauss at 9:06 AM on July 1


WE HAVE A DEAL HERE IS THE KNIFE
posted by robocop is bleeding at 9:07 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


I dont know how delayed I am so I need to wait a minute before refreshing metafilter when I see new comments which requires self control which does not come easily to me.
posted by shothotbot at 9:07 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


Lavezzi seems to add more to Argentina than Aguerro.
posted by marienbad at 9:07 AM on July 1


Wow. The swiss goalie takes fluorescent to a whole new level. I think we should call him Highlighter.
posted by eriko at 9:07 AM on July 1


Caught up, Never mind.
posted by benito.strauss at 9:08 AM on July 1


> I think we should call him Highlighter.

And the other goalie is in black. Highlighter vs. Sharpie?
posted by ardgedee at 9:08 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


Inler skies it.
posted by eriko at 9:08 AM on July 1


Turns out my delay in infinite as watchespn.com is not loading.
posted by shothotbot at 9:08 AM on July 1


Sharpie it is.
posted by eriko at 9:09 AM on July 1


Yes! (to sharpie and highlighter)
posted by marienbad at 9:09 AM on July 1


shothotbot - try atdhe. You may have to piss about a bit, but one at least should work.
posted by marienbad at 9:11 AM on July 1


Boots of the World Cup, Ranked

1. The triangly ones
2. The monochrome normal color ones
3. The hexagony ones
4. The monochrome fluorescent ones
5. Getting hit by the team bus
6. The one foot blue one foot pink ones
posted by Rock Steady at 9:12 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


So far, this is a very meh game.
posted by eriko at 9:13 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


Damn. I wish that pass had been a little better.
posted by languagehat at 9:14 AM on July 1


The stadium shadow is in a really bad place for Sharpie. Lucky for him, the ball isn't coming near him much.
posted by eriko at 9:14 AM on July 1


BBC announcer suddenly waxes poetic: "Waves of cheers... crashes through the stands...."
posted by ardgedee at 9:14 AM on July 1


> So far, this is a very meh game.

Yeah, but I'm OK with that. I always worry about Argentina getting overexcited and going on an attacking frenzy and opening up huge gaps. That isn't happening so far.
posted by languagehat at 9:15 AM on July 1


I haven't actually seen Sharpie yet because apparently the Swiss suck at making runs into the opposing country's territory.
posted by Dr. Zira at 9:16 AM on July 1


There we go, that's more like it, but nicely handled by Highlighter.
posted by eriko at 9:16 AM on July 1


Well, that was some Swiss pigman nightmare fuel.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 9:16 AM on July 1 [2 favorites]


Didn't you mean Meh-ssi game?
posted by shothotbot at 9:16 AM on July 1


Oldish piece and about a different sport, but somewhat related:

"The Ottawa optometrist and big Sens fan decided a few months ago to let the Penguins know that goalie Marc-André Fleury might improve his game if he ditched his big, bright yellow pads for white ones. Dr. Leduc, who knows a thing or two about the eye's sensitivity to different colours, wrote to various Penguins executives and the coaching staff, including co-owner Mario Lemieux, alerting them to how Mr. Fleury was making himself vulnerable to opposing players.

Accompanying her letter was a graph showing how quickly the eye reacts to different colours in conditions where there are bright lights, such as in a hockey arena. The graph shows that yellow is the easiest colour for the human eye to spot, which is the reason we have yellow emergency vehicles, yellow school buses, yellow fire hydrants and yellow Citizen cars.

"This means that of everything on the ice, the most visible object is Marc-André's goalie pads," the optometrist wrote to the Penguins in mid-December, a few days after Mr. Fleury suffered a serious high-ankle sprain.

"When the play is so fast, this is an advantage to your opponents," she added. "They can easily pick out your goalie, net and where to aim the puck in a split second.

"At your level of competition, a small thing like this can make the difference between a successful or unsuccessful shot on net."

Dr. Leduc, a Timmins, Ont., native who has been an eye doctor for 30 years, suggested Mr. Fleury wear white pads instead, because they would blend in with the colour of the ice, the boards and the goal netting. As a result, it would be harder for opponents to spot him in the flash it takes to decide where to shoot the puck.

posted by wensink at 9:16 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


What a brilliant throw in! And by brilliant, I mean (face palm.)
posted by eriko at 9:17 AM on July 1


Because I am ostensibly supporting Belgium, I am drinking a Belgian-style beer; but because it is Canada Day, I am drinking one brewed in Canada. And because...something...the company that brewed it is actually owned by the Japanese.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 9:17 AM on July 1


Shaqiri sure has a big neck.
posted by Pendragon at 9:19 AM on July 1


ah come on
posted by marienbad at 9:19 AM on July 1


Boots of the World Cup, Ranked

7. Getting hit by the team bus, and then backed over again by the same bus.
8. Whatever the fuck these are.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 9:21 AM on July 1


Oh, passive-aggressive neck touching.
posted by Pendragon at 9:21 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


Another face palm from the Swiss. BORING.
posted by eriko at 9:22 AM on July 1


I'm still at work and nowhere near a TV, but I'm going to comment anyway.

OOOH! Come on, pass the ball! Woo-hoo - wait, oh, he's having a laugh that fella!

I should probably admit now that I haven't watched any of the games so far, I just thought you were all doing random comments and I wanted to join in.

Hang on - Whoops! You MUST be joking?! Oi oi! Come of it fella you know how to play! Oooh!
posted by the quidnunc kid at 9:22 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


From The Guardian's pre-game daily World Cup blog:

> Here's Vernon Hunte on the streets of Salvador …
Americans teasing Belgians singing: "Wheeeeeere is Belgium?"
In response Belgians sing: "You don't knoooow"
Americans go quiet after that.

posted by ardgedee at 9:23 AM on July 1 [4 favorites]


Oh, passive-aggressive neck touching.

They are merely exchanging long protein strings. If you can think of a simpler way, I'd like to hear it.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 9:24 AM on July 1


"Sepp Blatter's in the crowd somewhere... You won't see closeups of him today, I'll wager. They seem to have shied away from that." BBC commentators have grown bored, and boredom leads to sarcasm.
posted by ardgedee at 9:24 AM on July 1


Nice effort, too much.

Between the shadow and Highlighter, this is a technical nightmare for the broadcaster.
posted by eriko at 9:25 AM on July 1


Guardian:
23 min: Nothing is happening.
posted by languagehat at 9:25 AM on July 1


Wake up, Sharpie!

Nice save, there.
posted by eriko at 9:27 AM on July 1


OOHHHHHH!!!!!
posted by Pendragon at 9:27 AM on July 1


Yay for Sharpie!
posted by languagehat at 9:27 AM on July 1


So 3 shots on target so far? whoa Argentina,
posted by marienbad at 9:29 AM on July 1


Schweinsteiger!


(Just wanted to say that again.)
posted by eriko at 9:30 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


Guardian: "This match is poor." I don't give a rat's ass if it's a good match, or an exciting match, or a pretty match. I just want la albiceleste to win. If that means a mano de dios, I'll take it.
posted by languagehat at 9:30 AM on July 1


That was a poor feed in by Messi, unusual.
posted by eriko at 9:31 AM on July 1


Yeah, I was surprised.
posted by languagehat at 9:33 AM on July 1


I see the fine art of Swiss diving is in fine form.
posted by eriko at 9:34 AM on July 1


I feel sorry for Messi, so much pressure. Can't be good for his performance.
posted by Pendragon at 9:35 AM on July 1


Richly deserved yellow for Xhaka.
posted by languagehat at 9:36 AM on July 1


Nice from Lavezzi
posted by marienbad at 9:36 AM on July 1


That particular shade of red, the way #23 just did a jig — I'm having a hard time not thinking of the Swiss as Lego Minifigs.
posted by benito.strauss at 9:36 AM on July 1


Sharpie shanked the clearance badly, there.
posted by eriko at 9:37 AM on July 1


<10 mins to HT - this game hasn't had much quality, but it is fairly entertaining.
posted by marienbad at 9:37 AM on July 1


Sharpie!!!
posted by languagehat at 9:38 AM on July 1


poor by the keeper, and Drmic
posted by marienbad at 9:38 AM on July 1


He should have lobbed the ball.
posted by Pendragon at 9:39 AM on July 1


Wow, Sharpie misplayed that, then the Swiss made a completely uninspiring shot. That should have been a goal.
posted by eriko at 9:39 AM on July 1


Soft finishes are for rinsing stemware in the dishwasher, NOT FOOTBALL.
posted by Dr. Zira at 9:39 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


Guardian: "Xhaka comes straight through the back of Lavezzi and is shown a giant yellow £500,000 cheque by the referee, who is riding a pink unicorn."
posted by languagehat at 9:40 AM on July 1


Nice attack, pathetic finish.
posted by languagehat at 9:41 AM on July 1


FFS de maria, hit the fucking ball!
posted by marienbad at 9:41 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


The gentle, mostly-unexcitable voices on the BBC are the perfect means of delivery for their increasingly bitter snarking about the pace of play.
posted by ardgedee at 9:44 AM on July 1


You would think the Swiss would know how to cross.
posted by eriko at 9:44 AM on July 1


almost halftime and i still haven't decided who i want to win

sigh
posted by elizardbits at 9:45 AM on July 1


Let's swap Shaqiri for Shakira at halftime and see if anyone notices.
posted by Dr. Zira at 9:45 AM on July 1


Poor Messi. The last time I saw that many people in red all crowded around one dude, I was trying to explain why construction was delayed on the second Death Star.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 9:45 AM on July 1 [2 favorites]


No additional time, says it all.
posted by Pendragon at 9:45 AM on July 1


Peep peep YAWN! Halftime!

I
I BELIEVE
I BELIEVE THAT
I BELIEVE THAT I WILL HAVE LUNCH
posted by eriko at 9:45 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


HT... Already? Slow and ponderous from Argentina, good from Switzerland.
posted by marienbad at 9:46 AM on July 1


> almost halftime and i still haven't decided who i want to win

Whomever can be fucked to make a credible shot on goal. That's how I've cast my alliance.
posted by ardgedee at 9:47 AM on July 1


Come on the Eidgenossen. 75 more minutes of this and you're almost there.
posted by brokkr at 9:47 AM on July 1


Well I tipped Argentina before the WC started, so I am hoist by my own petard right now.
posted by marienbad at 9:48 AM on July 1




Its wet and raining in England, and I can see copacabana beach in sunlight behind Gary Lineker. I is sad.
posted by marienbad at 9:53 AM on July 1


So, 2nd half, any thoughts on what Argentina will do? What about the Swiss or is it more of the same? ET and pens a possibility?
posted by marienbad at 9:54 AM on July 1


GOD PLEASE NOT PENALTIES.
posted by eriko at 9:54 AM on July 1


ET and penalties are always possible when Svizzera is playing.
posted by brokkr at 9:55 AM on July 1


But if they're playing like that, we have 75 more minutes of this nightmare.
posted by eriko at 9:55 AM on July 1


i predict that i will fall asleep before the end of this game
posted by elizardbits at 9:56 AM on July 1


There were no games going into penalty kicks yesterday, I guess we're due for at least one today.
posted by needled at 9:56 AM on July 1


Highlighter's turn with the shadow of doom.
posted by eriko at 10:00 AM on July 1


oh please let it be belgium/usa that goes to pens.
posted by marienbad at 10:02 AM on July 1


Argentina seems to be bidding for ending this yawnfest.
posted by eriko at 10:02 AM on July 1


At least he got a corner out of that.
posted by marienbad at 10:03 AM on July 1


He's go to go, and ref should have played on!
posted by marienbad at 10:03 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


Hmm. Get a little shaving cream on the ball, and watch it knuckle. Clever.
posted by eriko at 10:04 AM on July 1


Swiss miss!
posted by wensink at 10:05 AM on July 1


Sharpie? Have you dried out?
posted by eriko at 10:05 AM on July 1


Nice chance for the swiss, ruined by the inevitable poor finish.
posted by eriko at 10:06 AM on July 1


fucking hell cesar, wtf dude?
posted by marienbad at 10:06 AM on July 1


Butterfingers.
posted by brokkr at 10:06 AM on July 1


needed to look up and play it out left
posted by marienbad at 10:07 AM on July 1


Is there any way the officials can preemptively declare the game a draw and go straight to penalty kicks?
posted by ardgedee at 10:09 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


Higuain not having a good game and Lavezzi keeps dropping deep.
posted by marienbad at 10:10 AM on July 1


About the only player who's playing well is Highlighter.
posted by eriko at 10:13 AM on July 1


Much better from argentina, quicker.
posted by marienbad at 10:13 AM on July 1


The Swiss defense isn't doing bad either.
posted by brokkr at 10:13 AM on July 1


Ref remembers the signal for advantage, and then the Swiss take it and kick it out of touch.

Nice counter by Argentina, but Highlighter is standing bright.
posted by eriko at 10:14 AM on July 1


"The Swiss defense isn't doing bad either."

Yeah, all 8 of them.
posted by marienbad at 10:15 AM on July 1 [2 favorites]


Worst. Cross. EVAR.
posted by eriko at 10:15 AM on July 1


Guardian: "More is expected of Argentina than this. They're currently making Brazil 2014 look like Brazil 1970."
posted by languagehat at 10:15 AM on July 1


Rate this game is going, It'll be won with an own goal.

That should have been a card.
posted by eriko at 10:16 AM on July 1


Surely another card for the Swiss soon... (he hopes)
posted by marienbad at 10:16 AM on July 1


Can I just get it on the record that we apparently have a Brit in here supporting the Argies?
posted by brokkr at 10:17 AM on July 1


They are lucky the ref isn't like this.
posted by Pendragon at 10:17 AM on July 1


This game is becoming a Highlighter reel.
posted by eriko at 10:17 AM on July 1


Yes you can, although I'm English btw.
posted by marienbad at 10:18 AM on July 1


Oh God Di Maria, did you ever cross the ball before today?
posted by marienbad at 10:21 AM on July 1


English is a subset of Brit, innit?

Anyway, I thought supporting Argentina at a football game was punishable under the Treason Act of 1986.
posted by brokkr at 10:21 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


So close, Messi, so close.
posted by eriko at 10:23 AM on July 1


Almost half way through the 2nd half, not long left for someone to win it...

It is only punishable if your a Tory ;)

And Messi - wow, almost!
posted by marienbad at 10:23 AM on July 1


English is a subset of Brit, innit?


Not in FIFA terms, no. Plenty of Scots would happily support Argentina, even if they weren't playing England...
posted by running order squabble fest at 10:24 AM on July 1


Timbits and Waffles?

Thinking about the next game, because well, this one, oy!
posted by eriko at 10:25 AM on July 1


passes completed ARG:SWI - 325 to 166
posted by marienbad at 10:26 AM on July 1


This game is pretty much oy vey to be fair.
posted by marienbad at 10:27 AM on July 1


Is this the first solidly bad game of the group of 16?
posted by running order squabble fest at 10:27 AM on July 1


Maybe it's time for a Swiss Miss hot cocoa. The AC in this building is brutal, I have resorted to wearing a fleece scarf indoors.
posted by needled at 10:27 AM on July 1


Definitely so far. There were others that had bad spots, but this if this one was any more of a dog there'd be dog hair on the couch.
posted by eriko at 10:28 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


FFS - got to be a card.
posted by marienbad at 10:28 AM on July 1


Another yellow for the cuckoo clocks.
posted by languagehat at 10:29 AM on July 1


Its not a bad game, its just not a very good one.
posted by marienbad at 10:29 AM on July 1


The Dutch - Mexico game had more action, and they played in an oven.
posted by Pendragon at 10:29 AM on July 1


Finally a card.
posted by eriko at 10:29 AM on July 1


you know the cuckoo clock was invented by the Germans?
posted by eriko at 10:30 AM on July 1


I've only just started watching the game, I'm so lucky.
posted by Thing at 10:30 AM on July 1


Lining up and it went to the wrong man.
posted by marienbad at 10:31 AM on July 1


15 mins left and Argentina on top now, but what was that? No one there to meet the cross.
posted by marienbad at 10:32 AM on July 1


> you know the cuckoo clock was invented by the Germans?

Sure, but the Orson Welles quote trumps mere history.
posted by languagehat at 10:32 AM on July 1


War, genocide and the cuckoo clock? Fuck you Germany!
posted by marienbad at 10:33 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


This is a great game to do other things while watching.
posted by benito.strauss at 10:33 AM on July 1


GODDAMMIT
posted by languagehat at 10:33 AM on July 1


What will the ref do here?
posted by marienbad at 10:33 AM on July 1


Highlighter got capped!
posted by robocop is bleeding at 10:34 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


I think someone kicked Highlighter in the cap.
posted by eriko at 10:34 AM on July 1


Nothing, correctly.
posted by brokkr at 10:35 AM on July 1


Two world wars and one world cup, doo dah, doo dah...
posted by eriko at 10:35 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


Another outswinging corner that crosses the line and its wasted. How many times this world cup has that happened?
posted by marienbad at 10:35 AM on July 1


Please no extra time, please no extra time, Please no extra time, please no extra time, Please no extra time, please no extra time!!
posted by Pendragon at 10:35 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


Did anyone notice in the closeups that Highlighter is actually fluorescing?
posted by eriko at 10:36 AM on July 1


Jesus, instead of putting your hand up for a penalty, SHOOT THE FUCKING BALL.
posted by eriko at 10:37 AM on July 1


Fondue vs. asado
posted by ardgedee at 10:38 AM on July 1


Nice block by the camera boom!
posted by eriko at 10:40 AM on July 1


Wasted by Rocco. ET looms, unless Argentina can conjure up a bit of magic. Well, I say Argentina, either Messi or Di Maria.
posted by marienbad at 10:41 AM on July 1


Highlighter is burning out pixels in my display. So I guess I will remember this game after all.
posted by benito.strauss at 10:42 AM on July 1


That should be a red on Messi, actually.
posted by eriko at 10:42 AM on July 1


RAT TAIL CAM!
posted by eriko at 10:43 AM on July 1


put the handbags away guys
posted by marienbad at 10:43 AM on July 1


Palacio's rat tail should have, like, a knife attached to it. Or a laser.
posted by running order squabble fest at 10:43 AM on July 1


> That should be a red on Messi, actually.

Nonsense. Did you see the replay?
posted by languagehat at 10:44 AM on July 1


Yo MeFi US fans, I’m really happy for you and Imma let you finish, but Argentina-Switzerland is the most important match of all time. OF ALL TIME. So can we talk about Messi for a while?

It's kind of ridiculous how Argentina is expecting everything from Messi and it's totally ridiculous that he has vomited on the field or pre-game quite a few times this year and no one really cares. Kind of unfortunate that Di Maria who was on fire in the Champions League didn't resume his form.
posted by ersatz at 10:44 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


Not a red for Messi. He's not using head or hands to push his opponent.
posted by brokkr at 10:44 AM on July 1


rhubarb rhubarb rhubarb rhubarb rhubarb
posted by ardgedee at 10:45 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


Oh ffs Argentina. You're running out of time.
posted by languagehat at 10:45 AM on July 1


Hilariously unnecessary professional foul by Rojo, there.
posted by running order squabble fest at 10:46 AM on July 1


Nonsense. Did you see the replay?

Yes, and by the Laws, what Messi did with that shoulder check was retaliation, and that's a red. During the play, fine. After the play, it's violent conduct.

Not that any ref would give that red to Messi.
posted by eriko at 10:46 AM on July 1


"Stand up, so I can book you."
posted by brokkr at 10:46 AM on July 1 [2 favorites]


"Can Switzerland! Dramatically! Snatch it!" Begs a BBC announcer desperate for something, anything to announce.
posted by ardgedee at 10:46 AM on July 1


Univision is convinced that Messi will score soon.
posted by lizarrd at 10:46 AM on July 1


Nobody wants another half hour of this (except Jurgen Klinsmann). Come on asado!
posted by languagehat at 10:47 AM on July 1


No ref would give anybody a red card for that bit of jostling, I hope. Retaliation? Hardly.
posted by brokkr at 10:47 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


oh my god Fernandes
posted by marienbad at 10:48 AM on July 1


NO THE THREE PEEPS OF DOOM!!!!
posted by eriko at 10:49 AM on July 1


YAY! Thirty more minutes!
posted by running order squabble fest at 10:49 AM on July 1


Oh No.
posted by marienbad at 10:49 AM on July 1


Damn my BBC feed is at least four minutes lagged.
posted by ardgedee at 10:49 AM on July 1


El arbitro dice que LA PELOTA NO.... RUEDA.... MAAAAS!!!

Sigh. The madness will continue.
posted by languagehat at 10:50 AM on July 1


oh god i won't and you can't make me
posted by elizardbits at 10:50 AM on July 1


Ninety-three minutes later, I still don't know if I want the pastel referees or the human ambulances to win.
posted by evidenceofabsence at 10:50 AM on July 1


Really, no one has excelled in every game this World Cup. Colombia look about the best overall, with France up there too. Brazil and Argentina haven't really impressed.
posted by marienbad at 10:50 AM on July 1


There is one thing I wonder every time the World Cup rolls around: Why can you not build stadiums that actually have sun sails?
posted by travelwithcats at 10:51 AM on July 1


Okay, now that we're going to a dessert round I'm changing my loyalties from asado to fondue.
posted by 26.2 at 10:51 AM on July 1


BBC: Di Maria lost possession 37 times that game, so not at all like his Champions League Final self then.
posted by marienbad at 10:52 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


Switzerland are playing a very respectable game here. I'm totally impressed.
I would like some more amazing Messi so the kids will have something to think on.
posted by From Bklyn at 10:53 AM on July 1


And I, too, hate this stadium for its crazy glarey visuals
posted by From Bklyn at 10:55 AM on July 1


Highlighter's now in the shade so he only hurts to look at.
posted by eriko at 10:55 AM on July 1


That was actually a nice play by the Swiss.
posted by eriko at 10:57 AM on July 1


Univision announcer says there's still plenty of time left. DON'T RUB IT IN
posted by languagehat at 10:57 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


Even the Romans had sun sails. I saw PBS show where they did it. (they = PBS, not Romans.)
posted by benito.strauss at 10:58 AM on July 1


I wonder, what is the greatest danger of algorithmic culture?
posted by marienbad at 10:58 AM on July 1 [2 favorites]


AET, AET, AET. I can see a common thread. lh, only group winners have proceeded so far, so there's hope.
posted by ersatz at 10:58 AM on July 1


Quick question: is the direction of the tv coverage the same in all countries with only commentary changing?
posted by Thing at 10:59 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


He fought the ball, and the ball won.
posted by eriko at 10:59 AM on July 1


Yes. The world cup broadcaster in Brazil provides the TV feed. Contracting networks provide commentators and graphics. So we're all seeing the same shots.
posted by eriko at 11:00 AM on July 1


Thing, I think so, I think the pictures are from Brazilian TV and just sent to all broadcasters.
posted by marienbad at 11:00 AM on July 1


Swiss cheese..
posted by misha at 11:00 AM on July 1


Yeah, but it might seem different because everyone's stream is anywhere from 2-3 seconds to up to 30 seconds off from one another.
posted by elizardbits at 11:01 AM on July 1


You mean flat, weak tasting and full of holes?
posted by eriko at 11:01 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


thnx
posted by Thing at 11:01 AM on July 1


Just checking in to make sure everybody's still awake. Also, is Palacio a padawan and if so, why isn't he using his midichlorians to improve this game?
posted by kariebookish at 11:02 AM on July 1


> Yeah, but it might seem different because everyone's stream is anywhere from 2-3 seconds to up to 30 seconds off from one another.

Or whole minutes, grumble grumble.
posted by ardgedee at 11:02 AM on July 1


ESPN is hyping the U S A game as "The one you've been waiting for!" Don't they want me to watch this one? ;)
posted by misha at 11:02 AM on July 1


I've noticed that the placards behind the coaches that name their country are in English for me. Either they're actually in English (weird), or they're in green screen and every broadcaster fills in their own language-appropriate name (even weirder).
posted by benito.strauss at 11:04 AM on July 1


I want Shakira to divorce Pique and marry Shakiri. They should name the adorable baby Shakiru.
posted by misha at 11:04 AM on July 1 [2 favorites]


"only group winners have proceeded so far, so there's hope"

Let's keep that in mind for the second match today, folks.
posted by travelwithcats at 11:04 AM on July 1


No, because they care about you!
posted by eriko at 11:04 AM on July 1


Univision: "No bueno."
posted by languagehat at 11:04 AM on July 1


WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?
posted by eriko at 11:07 AM on July 1


The Argentines appear to be passing to an invisible 6-foot-tall rabbit.
posted by languagehat at 11:08 AM on July 1 [5 favorites]


Ideally, Switzerland beats Argentina, we beat Belgium, then win the World Cup and American fans enjoy delicious chocolate until the next World Cup.

Juergen can fix that for us, right? I BELIEVE.
posted by misha at 11:08 AM on July 1


The Brazilian crowd are getting behind the Swiss.
posted by Pendragon at 11:08 AM on July 1


The signs are in English.

The graphics are also delivered by the Brazilian TV producers - they're in English on German telly as well.
posted by brokkr at 11:08 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


The Swiss fans are Ole-ing. Ironic really, as this is the first time they've strung some passes together.
posted by marienbad at 11:09 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


Now they're just passing to the cuckoo clocks.
posted by languagehat at 11:09 AM on July 1


I would swear the Brazilians are cheering OLE! OLE! as the Argentinians angrily dart around the red Swiss players without being able to contact the ball.
posted by ardgedee at 11:09 AM on July 1


I thought Shaqiri was going to deck the ref for a second there. Bad positioning by the ref.
posted by eriko at 11:09 AM on July 1


Yellow card for the ref!!!
posted by Pendragon at 11:09 AM on July 1


I don't think there are that many Swiss people in the crowd, it must be the Brazilians.
posted by Pendragon at 11:10 AM on July 1


So basically this match is the Three Stooges do Futbol?
posted by winna at 11:11 AM on July 1


Peep. The swiss definitely picked it up there.
posted by eriko at 11:11 AM on July 1


Fucking give it to someone else to cross Di Maria. FFS.
posted by marienbad at 11:11 AM on July 1


Neither team is proving themselves worthy of going to the next round. The officials should declare a draw, allow neither to advance, and instead give the winner of Belgium/USA a bye.
posted by ardgedee at 11:13 AM on July 1


Shake shake shake!
Shake shake shake!
Shake the Messi!
Shake the Messi, Yeah!
posted by eriko at 11:13 AM on July 1


Jesus Sabella, a defensive mid is coming on? WTF? Are you playing for pens, or did you blink?
posted by marienbad at 11:13 AM on July 1


Swapped defenders, didn't he?
posted by eriko at 11:15 AM on July 1


I'll bet he's playing for pens. It's certainly looking like that.
posted by languagehat at 11:15 AM on July 1


I went to yoga and now can nip back in time for penalties and I won't have missed a thing!
posted by shothotbot at 11:15 AM on July 1


The thousand yard stare of the Swiss coach has destroyed my soul.
posted by eriko at 11:16 AM on July 1


Missed most of this as was at a cricket match. I'm assuming this (the footie) wasn't the greatest match in the world so far?
posted by Wordshore at 11:16 AM on July 1


you will have missed only the existential darkness of those of us who remained for the entire endless game
posted by elizardbits at 11:16 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


> I'll bet he's playing for pens. It's certainly looking like that.

Sharpie and Highlighter are, I'm sure.
posted by ardgedee at 11:17 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


The horror ... the horror .....
posted by Pendragon at 11:17 AM on July 1


Say... Do you think we might have jinxed this match by the goalie's nicknames?
posted by ardgedee at 11:18 AM on July 1


Di Maria tried to end this. Nice effort, but Highlighter shines again.
posted by eriko at 11:18 AM on July 1


Elizardbits, I do miss that now that GoT is over
posted by shothotbot at 11:18 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


Yeah, looks like Sabella is going for it instead.

Wordshore, you have missed nothing. But Cricket???
posted by marienbad at 11:18 AM on July 1


This was the first occasion in world sport history when the cricket was likely the more exciting option.
posted by Rock Steady at 11:20 AM on July 1 [7 favorites]


It's...been pretty evenly bad, Wordshore.
posted by misha at 11:20 AM on July 1


Listen to that crowd cheering for the sweet embrace of death.
posted by evidenceofabsence at 11:21 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


Office kitchen didn't have any Swiss Miss cocoa mix, so had to make do with the Nestlé stuff. Nestlé is the actual Swiss stuff, anyway.

Bariloche in Argentina is referred to as "Little Switzerland." There's lots of chocolate shops there, besides being up in the mountains.

Oh yeah, what about that futebol game?
posted by needled at 11:22 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


Giuardian: "This is all pretty bad."
posted by languagehat at 11:22 AM on July 1


> Oh yeah, what about that futebol game?

Nothing you'd notice, no.
posted by ardgedee at 11:23 AM on July 1


This new guy the Swiss just subbed has to mess up. He's wearing the tightest shirt of all.
posted by misha at 11:23 AM on July 1


Mehmedi must be bloody knackered, and dzmaile is a good player.
posted by marienbad at 11:23 AM on July 1


I am quoting, of course, Giulio Giuardian, the great Italo-Argentine cricket announcer.
posted by languagehat at 11:23 AM on July 1 [2 favorites]


Typos are an ancient Grauniad tradition.
posted by eriko at 11:24 AM on July 1 [2 favorites]


Less than 10 min to go and Di Maria+Messi are repeatedly trying but the Swiss defense is holding up well. Argentina desperately wants this done within the extra time.
posted by travelwithcats at 11:25 AM on July 1


Jesus Sabella, a defensive mid is coming on? WTF? Are you playing for pens, or did you blink?

And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.
posted by ersatz at 11:25 AM on July 1


You know, if this were Ecuador instead of Argentina, I'd be relaxing with a good book and waiting for the US game. Instead, I suffer.
posted by languagehat at 11:25 AM on July 1


Cricket is to football as the Glastonbury Festival is to Eurovision.
posted by Wordshore at 11:26 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


Lichtsteiner is no Schweinsteiger.
posted by Pendragon at 11:26 AM on July 1


Christ don't let Di Maria take a pen!!
posted by marienbad at 11:26 AM on July 1


i'm imagining a terrible future where each penalty kicker fails to score and are yet nevertheless forced to continue a grim deathmarch to victory
posted by elizardbits at 11:26 AM on July 1


But at least I suffer in good company.
posted by languagehat at 11:26 AM on July 1


FINALLY!
posted by eriko at 11:27 AM on July 1


GOOOOOOAAAALLLLL. Looks like i got back just in time for the few interesting minutes.
posted by Wordshore at 11:27 AM on July 1


FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.
posted by MartinWisse at 11:27 AM on July 1


Sweet release !!!!
posted by Pendragon at 11:27 AM on July 1


YeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Di Maria - just when I was dissing you!!! Messi makes it and surely its all over now!
posted by marienbad at 11:28 AM on July 1


oh thank god
posted by elizardbits at 11:28 AM on July 1


Nice setup by Messi to De Maria!
posted by misha at 11:28 AM on July 1


Thank God.
posted by Dr. Zira at 11:28 AM on July 1


You gotta be shitting me. I had just opened a beer for the pens.
posted by brokkr at 11:28 AM on July 1 [3 favorites]


Highlighter should have had that, but I'll bet he's worn out.
posted by eriko at 11:28 AM on July 1


Jesus, finally.

Also from The Guardian: "Pope Francis better start saying his prayers for the penalties," suggests Justin Kavanagh. "He is reputed to always take the side of the poor, and Argentina have been that today."
posted by lizarrd at 11:28 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


OH THANK YOU JESUS
posted by languagehat at 11:28 AM on July 1


i've checked the regs and the judges will allow the drinking of the beer
posted by elizardbits at 11:29 AM on July 1


I guess Pope Francis's prayers were heard.
posted by needled at 11:30 AM on July 1


Jesus Sabella?

And the tension continues...
posted by marienbad at 11:30 AM on July 1


> Highlighter should have had that, but I'll bet he's worn out.

Judging from the replay, he'd have marked the ball but he was drying up.
posted by ardgedee at 11:30 AM on July 1


Almost back to the office, what did I miss
posted by shothotbot at 11:30 AM on July 1


"And di María opens up his body!"
Hawt.
posted by evidenceofabsence at 11:30 AM on July 1


Oh, so close for the Swiss.
posted by eriko at 11:30 AM on July 1


FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU again.
posted by MartinWisse at 11:30 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


The US should try to get Messi for the next World Cup, it's worth a shot, what do you guys think, I think we should at least try.
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 11:30 AM on July 1


Wow Dzemali.
posted by marienbad at 11:31 AM on July 1


Almost pens!
posted by ersatz at 11:31 AM on July 1


That's just heartbreaking for the Swiss. Poor guy.
posted by Pendragon at 11:31 AM on July 1


NO! FFS!
posted by brokkr at 11:31 AM on July 1


Gosh, it's all happening. Most exciting passage of football have seen all tournament. Thrilling stuff.
posted by Wordshore at 11:31 AM on July 1


But the Swiss Guard take care of the Pope...
posted by misha at 11:31 AM on July 1


Good news is, Argentine looks beatable for Belgium once they've eliminated the US tonight.
posted by MartinWisse at 11:31 AM on July 1 [2 favorites]


Hahahah, omg, Univision: The pole was the third in the romance between the ball and the goal. The pole is Argentinian! THE POLE IS ARGENTINIAN!
posted by lizarrd at 11:32 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


FOUL!
posted by misha at 11:32 AM on July 1


Serious question: Why do goalkeepers wear long sleeves?
posted by Dr. Zira at 11:33 AM on July 1


120 minutes of excitement packed in 2 minutes!!
posted by Pendragon at 11:33 AM on July 1


Surely there won't be time for the free kick...
posted by marienbad at 11:33 AM on July 1


Holy crap! The last 10 minutes here have been incredible.
posted by running order squabble fest at 11:33 AM on July 1


Epic match (unsure about the first 115 minutes which I missed, but the rest...)
posted by Wordshore at 11:33 AM on July 1


We should try to get Neymar, too.
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 11:33 AM on July 1


I hope he blows while the ball is in the air ;)
posted by marienbad at 11:34 AM on July 1


OH WHAT THE FUCK NOW
posted by languagehat at 11:34 AM on July 1


This is like peeling off a band-aid.
posted by benito.strauss at 11:34 AM on July 1 [2 favorites]


I believe this means that every favourite in the Round of 16 has won their match. One more to go...
posted by gman at 11:34 AM on July 1


YeeeeeeesssssssssssssS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted by marienbad at 11:35 AM on July 1


Peep. Peep. PEEP. THANK GOD THAT'S OVER.
posted by eriko at 11:35 AM on July 1


OH AND HE ABSOLUTELY TWATTED THAT.
posted by MartinWisse at 11:35 AM on July 1


Awww...sorry Switzerland. You gave it your best shot.
posted by misha at 11:35 AM on July 1


Wait, isn't Belgium the favorite for our match, though?
posted by misha at 11:36 AM on July 1


Phew. Argentina, you are racking my nerves big time. I think I'll tip someone else next time.

Di Maria possession loss stats now up to 51 - FIFTY FUCKING ONE!!! and he scores the winner! wow.
posted by marienbad at 11:36 AM on July 1


Uh-huh.
posted by MartinWisse at 11:36 AM on July 1


Ta-TA-TA-DAAAA! The trend continues! Are you USA fans shaking in fear yet?
posted by travelwithcats at 11:36 AM on July 1


Getting ready for the next game with some of my friends.
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 11:37 AM on July 1


Belgium is the favorite.
posted by Pendragon at 11:37 AM on July 1


I'm eating Belgian chocolate that's my favourite.
posted by ersatz at 11:39 AM on July 1


I want some steak with chimichurri sauce now. Maybe with a nice Malbec.
posted by needled at 11:39 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


> Argentine looks beatable for Belgium

Jesus and Pope Francis will not allow that.
posted by languagehat at 11:40 AM on July 1


I think Argentina are allowed to play more that one Argentine.
posted by marienbad at 11:41 AM on July 1


needled, I like your cuisine-centric approach to sports.
posted by benito.strauss at 11:42 AM on July 1


> The trend continues! Are you USA fans shaking in fear yet?

Per the 9:01AM update of The Guardian's daily blog:
> Since the introduction of 32 teams and 8 groups, no World Cup has seen eight Group leaders progress. In 1998 six of eight won through, in 2002 only four of eight, in 2006 six of eight. At the last World Cup in 2010 in South Africa we came closest to eight advancing with seven of eight Group leaders ...

Sounds good to me.
posted by ardgedee at 11:42 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


Belgium not exactly the best shooters; to wit, Miss Belgium: "I forgot to pull the trigger."
posted by wensink at 11:47 AM on July 1


Are we staying here for the USA/Belgium match or are we moving to the other thread?
posted by Dr. Zira at 11:47 AM on July 1


Let the Americans decide. This thread is a bit unweildy and slow to load when posting now. Maybe someone will make a "If you only watch one game today, part 2" post ;)
posted by marienbad at 11:52 AM on July 1


needled, I like your cuisine-centric approach to sports.

For USA-Portugal, my wife made Portuguese sweet bread roll for the burgers I made, red, white, and blue jello shots, and a Portuguese flag cake. Obviously our attempts at representing both sides came back to bite us, but it was a lot of fun.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 11:53 AM on July 1 [1 favorite]


Staying here. But after the USA grind Belgium into the ground in the next few hours, going to contact the mods about a new thread for the next round.
posted by Wordshore at 11:59 AM on July 1


Any suggestions for snacks / dinner for the Belgium-USA game? I will have to skip on beer as I am feeling a bit poorly, and am not in the mood for frites (even with moules) and we don't have a Belgian waffle maker. Will I have to resort to squirting spray can cheese into my mouth to have a suitably American snack?
posted by needled at 12:00 PM on July 1


This one is getting a little slow to load. I vote for moving.
posted by Rock Steady at 12:00 PM on July 1


ok, I'm moving, see you on the other thread.
posted by Pendragon at 12:01 PM on July 1


Yeah, we'll all be commenting the heck out of the next game. Let's go over there.
posted by travelwithcats at 12:03 PM on July 1


See you all over there.
posted by Dr. Zira at 12:12 PM on July 1


...and bring a can of Easy Cheese with you.
posted by Wordshore at 1:04 PM on July 1


Oh well. It was fun while it lasted.
posted by Wordshore at 4:27 PM on July 1


Wordshore, maybe you can find a little love in your heart for the underdog that is Costa Rica?
posted by travelwithcats at 5:08 PM on July 1 [1 favorite]


My heart is a chunk of cold, grey, Scottish granite.

So, no.
posted by Wordshore at 8:05 AM on July 2


Well, then....I hope you'll be back for the quarter finals anyway!
posted by travelwithcats at 8:19 AM on July 2


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