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How a Right-Winger Sees the New York Times.
posted by brain_drain (78 comments total) 1 user marked this as a favorite

 
Metafilter: Two Dudes ...

What? Too soon?
posted by grabbingsand at 12:53 PM on August 18, 2006


Two CEOs in cut-offs.
posted by Kirth Gerson at 12:59 PM on August 18, 2006


The Al-Qaeda Newsletter
(and Coupon Book)


I lol'd.
posted by Dr-Baa at 1:00 PM on August 18, 2006


Awesome.
posted by Optimus Chyme at 1:01 PM on August 18, 2006


I was hoping they'd do something with the "Has Ann Coulter GONE TO FAR?" ad in the lower left corner.
posted by piratebowling at 1:01 PM on August 18, 2006


That Salt Lake City inset is hilarious.
posted by Armitage Shanks at 1:02 PM on August 18, 2006


Clintos play soccer with severed head of Vince Foster he he
posted by Megafly at 1:03 PM on August 18, 2006


It's probably too late, but I should add that this is very slightly NSFW due to some censored nudity and salty language.
posted by brain_drain at 1:04 PM on August 18, 2006


Fair and Balanced
posted by bevets at 1:05 PM on August 18, 2006


OH HAY, LOOK EVERYBODY, IT'S BEVETS!!! YAY
posted by stenseng at 1:06 PM on August 18, 2006


Fair and Balanced

The FPP is funnier. This sort of joke doesn't really work as well with pages of text.
posted by Armitage Shanks at 1:09 PM on August 18, 2006


The Groseclose-Milyo "study" is laughable. Their methodology is beyond suspect and their definitions are misleading at best and disingenuous at worst.

Try again, Bevets. better yet, don't.
posted by solid-one-love at 1:13 PM on August 18, 2006


White people drive like this.

Black people drive like this.
posted by dios at 1:17 PM on August 18, 2006


Hey, I don't appreciate that kind of racist humor.
posted by sonofsamiam at 1:21 PM on August 18, 2006


Racist? Like NASCAR?
posted by Kirth Gerson at 1:23 PM on August 18, 2006


I think it was a statement of fact. Lean Wit' It!
posted by prostyle at 1:24 PM on August 18, 2006


Amirite?
posted by Zozo at 1:24 PM on August 18, 2006


$ javac the_bevets_bot.java
$ java the_ bevets_bot

There are no transitional fossils.
posted by the bevets bot at 1:25 PM on August 18, 2006 [1 favorite]


I wish one of the altered NYT mastheads was "The Red Rag", since I know republicans who actually call it that.
posted by tula at 1:29 PM on August 18, 2006


The world isn't black and white. Neither is comedy.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 1:30 PM on August 18, 2006


solid-one-love

"Methodology" has been demonstrated.

"Defintions" as a definition is not reliable.

What is it if it is not murder?
posted by the bevets bot at 1:34 PM on August 18, 2006


White people drive like this.

Black people drive like this.


It's true! We're so lame!

Also, is there much point in posting "NSFW for language" from a site chock-full of the same language?
posted by Navelgazer at 1:36 PM on August 18, 2006


[This is funny.]
posted by languagehat at 1:38 PM on August 18, 2006


Can someone explain to Dios in words he can understand that you aren't being persecuted if you are a member of an empowered elite?
posted by [expletive deleted] at 1:46 PM on August 18, 2006


whoa, that gave me the blue screen of death.

These tubes, they're getting too advanced for my computer.
posted by M.C. Lo-Carb! at 1:46 PM on August 18, 2006


Blazecock Pileon

The writer never bothers to give any evidence for an black versus white -- he merely assumes black-and-white-ism must have happened. These teleolocial benefits fit better with an straw man insertion failure than left-winger politics (racism denial agreement attribution arrogance incivility &&**&*$&(*&$98YFh8$])

So long as you are secure you will count many friends; if your life becomes clouded you will be alone. ~ Ovid
posted by the bevets bot at 1:48 PM on August 18, 2006


That is hilarious, my boss is annoyed because I am laughing so hard.
posted by parmanparman at 1:50 PM on August 18, 2006


Doesn't work for me in Firefox or IE-in-Firefox, even with javascript allowed.
posted by orthogonality at 1:50 PM on August 18, 2006


Oh, ok, I have to click the instructions box first.
posted by orthogonality at 1:51 PM on August 18, 2006


I don't know who this "bevets" is, but if I get one more un-warned pdf link, I'm gonnna shoot this dog. (Plz. imagine my having the time to post that classic NatLamp cover of dog with gun to head. Also plz. imagine I knew the html to do it with. Thank you.)
posted by turducken at 1:55 PM on August 18, 2006


holy cow nice html dude!
posted by sonofsamiam at 1:56 PM on August 18, 2006


How is this any better than what they are accusing the "wing nuts" of doing? Stuff like this only perpetuates the football politics mentality, that were on opposing "teams" and it's "us" agaist "them," "red" against "blue." May as well be "shirts" and "skins" (and I probably don't even need to say which would be which in that scenario).

Contrary to the current political blogger mentality, there are plenty of ideas that unite us. Freedom, liberty, pursuit of happiness and all that jazz.

You can't accuse the opposition of demonizing the opposition without in turn committing the act you're demonizing. Duh.
posted by d723 at 1:58 PM on August 18, 2006


Can someone explain to Dios in words he can understand that you aren't being persecuted if you are a member of an empowered elite?
posted by [expletive deleted] at 3:46 PM CST on August 18


Wtf are you babbling about? How did you get that out the comment I made?

The comment I made was referring to a Simpsons episode about lame humor that is nothing more than "look how we are different." This webpage is more of the same. "Look at them. Laugh at them. They are different."

The same joke could be made with The Other being gay people, French people, Southerners, Northerners, Christians, Jews, blind people, etc. It's basically "lets laugh at this characterization of people different than us" where characterization has little relation to any real person.

It's basically The Strawman as a Joke.
posted by dios at 1:59 PM on August 18, 2006


And what d723 said.
posted by dios at 2:00 PM on August 18, 2006


Damn you, bevets, for linking to a PDF without warning us.

grrrrr.

That's a thing apart from linking to a study with deeply flawed methodology.
posted by eustacescrubb at 2:01 PM on August 18, 2006


Okay. It was too soon. How about ...

Metafilter: Thirty-Five Dudes (So Far) Strokin' It
posted by grabbingsand at 2:03 PM on August 18, 2006


Lots of footnotes, but almost no sources. It's pretty impressive for that alone.
posted by absalom at 2:04 PM on August 18, 2006


The pdf, i mean.
posted by absalom at 2:04 PM on August 18, 2006


You can't accuse the opposition of demonizing the opposition without in turn committing the act you're demonizing.

I've been thinking about it, and this sure sounds like a crock to me. Of course you can.
posted by sonofsamiam at 2:06 PM on August 18, 2006


Dios, Dios, Dios ...

Conservatives see the NYT as a liberal rag.

Hence, the funny.
posted by grabbingsand at 2:12 PM on August 18, 2006


Contrary to the current political blogger mentality, there are plenty of ideas that unite us. Freedom, liberty, pursuit of happiness and all that jazz.

Fuck you, buddy. I hate jazz.
posted by COBRA! at 2:13 PM on August 18, 2006


It's basically The Strawman as a Joke.
Is this supposed to make it less funny somehow?
posted by lekvar at 2:19 PM on August 18, 2006


Stuff like this only perpetuates the football politics mentality... You can't accuse the opposition of demonizing the opposition without in turn committing the act you're demonizing. Duh.

So, all it's going to take for this kind of shit to stop is for one side to give up?
posted by Hypnic jerk at 2:22 PM on August 18, 2006


Yeah, applying debate tactics to humor is pretty much gonna kill any of it on contact.

The site's kinda cute.
posted by furiousthought at 2:23 PM on August 18, 2006


I never thought I'd say this, but that was really, really funny dios. I have some old theory that you can sum up any situation with a classic simpsons quote.

Well played sir, well played.
posted by dig_duggler at 2:24 PM on August 18, 2006


bevets AND dios? In the same thread?

POPCORN NOW AMIRITE
posted by scrump at 2:29 PM on August 18, 2006


Damn you, bevets, for linking to a PDF without warning us.

Not to excuse the practice, but get PDF Download.

It lets you view, download, or cancel any PDF link after you click on it. Simply invaluable.
posted by mrgrimm at 2:29 PM on August 18, 2006


Loved the bylines (Mullah Umani Lefkowitz, Phineas Rothschild...) — can't we all just get along married?
posted by rob511 at 2:31 PM on August 18, 2006


It's basically "lets laugh at this characterization of people different than us" where characterization has little relation to any real person.

Well, actually, it's "let's laugh at the characterization of the characterization of a newspaper by people different than us" where characterization has little relation to any real newspaper.
posted by Armitage Shanks at 2:35 PM on August 18, 2006


Metafilter: Slack jawed rubes drive around in circles.
posted by beatrice at 2:35 PM on August 18, 2006


turducken writes "(Plz. imagine my having the time to post that classic NatLamp cover of dog with gun to head. Also plz. imagine I knew the html to do it with. Thank you.)"

Here turduken, borrow my kitten
Kitten Gun
Not actually my kitten, image stolen from Fandango's Polaroid directory
posted by Mitheral at 2:38 PM on August 18, 2006


Excellent!
posted by amberglow at 2:51 PM on August 18, 2006


The same joke could be made with The Other being gay people, French people, Southerners, Northerners, Christians, Jews, blind people, etc. It's basically "lets laugh at this characterization of people different than us" where characterization has little relation to any real person.

It's basically The Strawman as a Joke.


No. It's about those who see everything they don't like as The Other, whether it actually really is or not.
posted by amberglow at 2:53 PM on August 18, 2006


The world isn't black and white. Neither is comedy.

and since 1997 or so, neither is the new york times.
posted by snofoam at 2:57 PM on August 18, 2006


Enjoyed that.
posted by nickyskye at 3:16 PM on August 18, 2006


"Funny is good. Funny is good. But then do it by using comedy and humor, not police action and coffee remarks."
*still missing Kirby*
posted by Smedleyman at 3:22 PM on August 18, 2006


and since 1997 or so, neither is the new york times.

I rather like its grey color. My comment was actually directed at another's — no worry.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 3:28 PM on August 18, 2006


d723: Contrary to the current political blogger mentality, there are plenty of ideas that unite us. Freedom, liberty, pursuit of happiness and all that jazz.

I'd like to believe that and we're certainly conditioned to take it as a given in the US, but I've spent time on certain websites which have shaken that belief.

Contrary to the common wisdom, the vast majority of the population doesn't understand freedom, and they don't want it. And the pursuit of happiness = let's go shopping.

Finally, I hate to agree with COBRA!: jazz sucks.
posted by oncogenesis at 3:31 PM on August 18, 2006


s/hate/have/
posted by oncogenesis at 3:32 PM on August 18, 2006


the vast majority of the population doesn't understand freedom jazz
posted by gramschmidt at 3:36 PM on August 18, 2006


Wasn't bevets supposed to be banned?
posted by bob sarabia at 3:59 PM on August 18, 2006


I rather like its grey color. My comment was actually directed at another's — no worry.

i was actually referring to the fact that it didn't print any color photos until 1997, which was kind of a pointless comment, although i did feel at the time that the times was somehow betraying its journalistic seriousness.
posted by snofoam at 4:05 PM on August 18, 2006


diso:

It's a joke. it's funny not because the sort of people who actually beieve the New York Times is biased to the left are genuinely that delusional, but precisely because most of those people are not that deliusional. It's called hyperbole. It's the overstatement that makes the joke funny. If it tried to be accurate in degree, it would cease to be funny.
posted by eustacescrubb at 4:30 PM on August 18, 2006


oncogenesis: Contrary to the common wisdom, the vast majority of the population doesn't understand freedom, and they don't want it.

They want freedom, just not the same freedoms as their opposition. Seems the point of a public discourse is to establish what freedoms can peacefully coexist.

If you imagine the same kind of exchange happening, not on the anonymous web, but in a room with actual people, it ends up looking like childish name-calling, kids making fun of each other. "Oh yea, well he wets the bed." "oh yea, well your mom.." Drawing silly pictures of the "other" kids other and showing them to their friends to make their friends laugh.

It's more likely that the "vast majority of the population" encompases the vast majority of the gamut of opinions on any given topic. That's how it works. Everybody has opinions. Name-calling doesn't help us find the best course of action, discourse does.

I guess I just find stuff like Sam Harris' reputle to be more adult, intelligent and effective at dismissing ridiculous arguments from opposition and moving us all along. But that's just my opinion. I like intellectuals.

so who's working on the satire site of that satire site?
posted by d723 at 5:01 PM on August 18, 2006


That's one thing the right seems unable to grasp : Humor.


And don't tell me Mallard Fillmore is funny, but I don't get it.
posted by Liquidwolf at 5:10 PM on August 18, 2006


eustacescrubb writes "Damn you, bevets, for linking to a PDF without warning us. "

I guess his link just wasn't, you know, intelligently designed.
posted by clevershark at 5:39 PM on August 18, 2006


diso: It's a joke.

September '77
Port Elizabeth weather fine
It was business as usual
In police room 619
Oh Diso, Diso, because Diso
Oh Diso, Diso, because Diso
't'sa joke, 't'sa joke
-Irony is dead

When I try to sleep at night
I can only dream in red
The outside world is black and white
With only one colour dead
Oh Diso, Diso, because Diso
Oh Diso, Diso, because Diso
't'sa joke, 't'sa joke
-Irony is dead
posted by Hypnic jerk at 5:44 PM on August 18, 2006


You see the new Klimnt in its splendor. I see two dudes strokin' it. Let's call the whole thing off.
posted by Serial Killer Slumber Party at 5:47 PM on August 18, 2006


How a Right-Winger Sees All Women:


posted by nlindstrom at 12:48 PM on August 19, 2006


Anyone know where one could get one of those stove guards?
posted by Mitheral at 3:29 PM on August 19, 2006


Fireplace accesory store. It looks like a spark guard.
posted by Kirth Gerson at 5:22 PM on August 19, 2006


I posted it in alt.politics...

"I don't get it. Is it supposed to be funny?"
posted by wfc123 at 5:25 PM on August 19, 2006


Sorry, but most liberal-hating right wingers are that delusional. That's why it's funny.
posted by wfc123 at 5:37 PM on August 19, 2006


I'm kinda sick of that term - Right-Winger. It's something my mom used to say in the 80s.
It implies that they reside in the right wing.
The term is 'conservative'. Let's bury right-winger. Today's right-wingers fly planes into buildings.
posted by Baby_Balrog at 5:42 PM on August 19, 2006


Hypnic jerk : What are those lyrics? I laughed even not knowing where they come from.

The term is 'conservative' -- Well, since being anti-gay marriage and pro-life hardly constitutes a genuine conservatism, I'd say the term is Republican. Modern Republicans are not truly conservative.
posted by eustacescrubb at 6:47 PM on August 19, 2006


Hypnic jerk : What are those lyrics?

They're from Peter Gabriel's tribute song to Stephen Biko ("Biko"). When I saw dios's name misspelled as diso, for some reason, the tune just instantly popped into my head.
posted by Hypnic jerk at 7:30 AM on August 20, 2006


*flaps right arm up and down several times*

If the anti-gay pro-life pro-God-in-schools pro-war types were kicked out of the republican party, all you'd have left would be democrats.
posted by ZachsMind at 7:42 AM on August 20, 2006


you forgot big business and military contractors, and racists, and those who live on trust funds...
posted by amberglow at 1:05 PM on August 20, 2006


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