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February 9, 2007 3:18 PM   Subscribe


 
Wow. This is great. For the most part, America's Test Kitchen is one of my favorite shows ever, but I was unaware of this. The Chowhound videos look both interesting and useful.

Thanks for posting this.
posted by wander at 3:26 PM on February 9, 2007


I just got the wife a laptop for her birthday. Now she can watch the videos while in the kitchen, making up some new and interesting stuff. Thanks for the linkage, Dave.
posted by thanotopsis at 3:28 PM on February 9, 2007


Don't forget Rouxbe. (It's a pay site, but has a couple good free samples that appear to have high production values). Were I a wealthy man, I'd probably become a lifer for $99.
posted by spock at 3:46 PM on February 9, 2007


Rachel Ray ON DEMAND!!??!? Be still my beating heart. No, wait.. I got that wrong. What I mean to say is "die you irritating twee harpy!"
posted by jonson at 3:49 PM on February 9, 2007 [1 favorite]


Heh. Four of the seven "channels" on the Food Network VOD section are filled with nothing but ads. Some are listed as "Sponsored", while others are called "From our sponsor" while still others don't say anything of the sort, but are just 30 second ads for shows on the Food Network. Bastards.
posted by jonson at 3:52 PM on February 9, 2007


Am I missing something? The ATK page seems to indicate the actual video files are behind a paywall but that I'm welcome to open a trial account.
posted by majick at 4:24 PM on February 9, 2007




When I was working at the Food Network 10 years ago, it was run by foodies.

Now - like everything from American cars to The NFL - it is run by beancounters.
posted by wfc123 at 4:26 PM on February 9, 2007


If you click on the "channels" on the left, you can watch several videos for free (after a short commercial) without signing up for anything.
posted by Dave Faris at 4:27 PM on February 9, 2007


Actually, I was deceived. Only the first three videos seem to be available in full (Celebrity Chef Cookware, All-Purpose Cornbread, and Onion-braised Brisket). The rest are only 10-second segments. Probably not as great a link as I originally thought. Sorry about that.
posted by Dave Faris at 4:31 PM on February 9, 2007


Chowhound Cooking Videos

That woman doesn't know it but she will be Mrs. Turtles someday.

And damn but she knows how to poach an egg, should that ever come up.

Great post--thanks!
posted by Turtles all the way down at 4:35 PM on February 9, 2007


For the record, Chris Kimball of Cook's Illustrated and ATK isn't really the down-homey Vermont native he'd lead you to believe. He owns a Maserati and is kind of a know-it-all prick.

And I've never seen snow tires on the Maserati. So much for Vermont.
posted by kuujjuarapik at 4:48 PM on February 9, 2007


VideoJug has some pretty good cooking instruction videos. The tone may be a little off-putting to some, but they're all very clear and straightforward.
posted by timelord at 4:53 PM on February 9, 2007


Cooking for Dummies, the video.
posted by rxrfrx at 5:05 PM on February 9, 2007


Chris Kimball has always kinda seemed that way, kuujjuarapik. But you he's an arrogant prick who knows his way a kitchen, so I guess it evens out.
posted by boo_radley at 5:29 PM on February 9, 2007


Thanks. Like I don't have a hard enough time with my Julia Collin Davison and Bridget Lancaster issues without them being availabe 24/7 on my laptop. You can keep yer Giada (and her giant head) them's the girls for me.
posted by qldaddy at 5:49 PM on February 9, 2007


I dunno, Boo. There are lots of arrogant pricks who know their way around a kitchen much better than that dude. His success comes from the Yankee Magazine-Burt and I homey-ness in Cook's Illustrated, crossed with an engineers approach to cooking which I commend him for.
I just can't stand the lie, the homey New England small town-meeting general store maple syrup gathering PBS watcher BS he covers himself in. He lacks integrity to me.

All told I still get his magazine. It's the engineer's approach that wins me over.
posted by kuujjuarapik at 6:29 PM on February 9, 2007 [1 favorite]


Christopher Kimball pisses me off - he's sort of arrogant and I hate, hate, hate hearing cooking people go off on "don't use your SUPERMARKET variety such-and-such here, use this organic, full-grain, home-raised bullshit that will set you back $6 for a vacuum sealed, hand-packed jar".

My favorite cookbook author? Mark Bittman. I have such a man crush on that guy. I love that his books (and articles, and he has videos on the NY Times website) are no-nonsense; he tells you where you can use canned and where you can't, where you can buy cheap and where you can't, etc. He has an extremely pragmatic approach to cooking that I really appreciate. He's sort of like a non-annoying Rachael Ray who doesn't say or write "yummo", or "EVOO - that's Extra Virgin Olive Oil".

Don't get me wrong - I am an avid cook and I turn my nose up at those who think that, say, instant mashed potatoes are just as good as the real thing. But honestly, dude, don't try to tell me that I need to be using a specific brand of chocolate for my cookies or they will turn out like COMPLETE AND UTTER GARBAGE.

(Full disclosure: I own at least two America's Test Kitchen books, and I subscribe to Cook's Illustrated. While their stance on products and techniques is kinda dumb, there are also a lot of good things about the show and the magazine, there are also plenty of good ideas).

/rant
posted by rossination at 7:01 PM on February 9, 2007


...homey New England small town-meeting general store maple syrup gathering PBS watcher...

Bingo.
posted by rossination at 7:02 PM on February 9, 2007


rossination: I don't know where you get they idea that they're so snobby and arrogant. Sure, they endorse pricey things like Muir Glen Organic tomatoes, but he has repeatedly said that he loves it when the cheapest item is the winner of their taste tests - which it often is.

As for Kimball's down-hominess, he once read a letter on the air where someone couldn't reconcile his on-air nerdish persona with that of him wielding a shotgun and shooting an animal, so he produced a photo of him holding up a rabbit he had shot. I was surprised to see stubble on his face more than anything.
posted by O9scar at 7:41 PM on February 9, 2007


I've never been convinced by Kimball's down-home persona, but as an avid ATK watcher, I've never gotten the elitist vibe some folks are ascribing to it. They regularly pick middle-of-the-road products on the tasting lab and equipment sessions, and when I've followed their recommendations, I've found them to be pretty solid. I think on that front, he's kind of the victim of "reverse snobbery", where folks are accusing ATK of being elitist in a way that it's really not.
posted by LairBob at 8:28 PM on February 9, 2007


They regularly pick middle-of-the-road products on the tasting lab

If anything, this results in them favoring the most popular brands. "Our tasters felt that Heinz ketchup had the most ketchup flavor." No kidding! What if I want something that tastes good instead of just familiar?

(That said, their 30 Minute Recipe book has totally changed the way we eat during the week. It's rarely 30 minutes on the clock, but just knowing I'm not in for some 4-pan extravaganza has made me much more likely to try new recipes when I have limited time.)
posted by nev at 8:51 PM on February 9, 2007


Y'know, LairBob, I've never even seen ATK. I really wish I had, but I was too busy. The elitist vibe I got was from the little introductions to every Cook's Illustrated that featured some ancient New England clam dig, ole fisherman's lore, weather stories, town pie bake or worse, Chris's received wisdom from some Vermont elder. It's crap. He's probably down in Palm Beach for th worst of winter for all we know. I don't mean it to sound like "reverse snobbery". It isn't. I'm not attacking him because I envy his success. I don't like his ruse and dishonesty."Reverse snobbery" is a tired old rubber duck.
posted by kuujjuarapik at 8:51 PM on February 9, 2007


There's no doubt about it. The success of Cooks Illustrated and America's Test Kitchen has made Kimball a millionaire, but I wouldn't really hold that against him. If he can afford a maserati to go from maple tree to maple tree, that's just the American Dream in action, isn't it?
posted by Dave Faris at 8:52 PM on February 9, 2007


For a bunch of heathen-ass yankees, the ATK folks made some pretty mouth-gushering pulled pork, even if it was done in an oven, and not a pit.

I was a vegetarian for eleven years, hand to god, and pulled pork and fried chicken destroyed that reserve, curse and bless them.
posted by erskelyne at 1:36 AM on February 10, 2007


Like I said, I don't really buy the down-home persona, either--I was talking more about the assertion that he continually pushes "organic, full-grain, home-raised bullshit that will set you back $6 for a vacuum sealed, hand-packed jar". I just don't see that in the recommendations.
posted by LairBob at 5:43 AM on February 10, 2007


Yeah, upon closer inspection, there isn't as much content as I expected in the America's Test Kitchen link. Still, the Chowhound link is good. As for the Food Network one, well, that's a topic that's been thoroughly discussed elsewhere.

When I said that "for the most part" ATK is one of my favorite shows, a lot of that has to do with Christopher Kimball. I don't think he's all bad, sometimes he has some good things to contribute, but a lot of times during the show I kept getting this vibe from him where it seemed like he was trying to outdo everybody else. There would be times when he would interrupt other cast members while they were in the middle of saying something as well, and then they'd never get to finish, and that bothered me also. He does seem a bit arrogant, which is too bad because everyone else on the show seems like they are really modest and down-home sort of people (I never got that vibe from him). I think the worst, too, was an episode that I saw where he talked about the letters they got, and he took the time to read an e-mail someone wrote to them about how "they liked the show except for Christopher Kimball and that the show would be better if they replaced him". The whole thing just turned me off because I got this really smug vibe from Kimball, like he was reading it off just to shove it in their face and basically say "ha ha, you can't do anything about it!". Bridget was on the screen at the same time, and she didn't say anything and just looked a little uncomfortable. What was worse was I got the impression that it wasn't the first time that Kimball had read a negative e-mail about himself on the air. It just seemed like a really poor use of time, considering it's only a half-hour show.

rossination, I second the Bittman-love. I really like what he's trying to do, and his approach was quite refreshing after being bombarded from all sides with the "everything needs to be fancy all the time!" approach to things.
posted by wander at 9:31 AM on February 10, 2007


Okay, I just want to come back and say I hope that my last comment didn't sound too negative. He's really not that bad, and other than those few minor things, I don't really have any issues with Kimball. He's really a pretty good host. I just finished watching this week's episode, which reminded me of that. I guess I just wanted to make sure that my comment didn't come off as disparaging, and I know that no one is probably going to come back and read this, and that it probably isn't a big deal, either, but I just wanted to try and make sure.
posted by wander at 10:03 AM on February 10, 2007


Jeez, wander, did you just get a knock on the door or something? Is he in the house now? Type yes if you want us to call 911.

Really, I think it's fine to disparage the TV guy online. He puts himself out there, I'm sure his skin is pretty thick.
posted by kuujjuarapik at 10:45 AM on February 10, 2007


Heh. Thanks kuujjuarapik, but still. I guess the internet, and metafilter, sometimes seem like these huge sinks of negativity to me, and I guess I really do not want to add to that. I guess, too, is that I feel that just because someone puts themselves out there doesn't mean that they are suddenly open to, or deserving, of being disparaged in public places.

hurry, he's got a spatula!
posted by wander at 10:54 AM on February 10, 2007


Good for you, Wander. We could all probably use to think twice before giving in to the dark side. I know I could.
posted by Dave Faris at 4:35 PM on February 10, 2007


Speaking of giving in to the dark side and talking trash about Food personalities (note the capitalization), here's Tony Bourdain pooping all over the Food Network lineup. Not all of his reviews are negative, mind you.

I agree with his intense dislike for Sandra Lee, and I agree with some of the commenters that he forgot to include Nigella Lawson (who I love in a way that is somewhat startling for a gay man) on his list.
posted by LMGM at 6:25 AM on February 11, 2007




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