Best of women. (DNC Day 4)
July 28, 2016 12:53 PM   Subscribe

Last stop in Philadelphia: Hillary Clinton’s Convention: Day 4 "I'm gay, so I feel like it's my second coming out party as a Democrat, to be free to wear my Hillary shirt," said Robin, who was wearing a 2008 Hillary campaign shirt and plenty of colourful Hillary pins, standing next to her wife. Livestream.

Five things Hillary Clinton needs to do in her acceptance speech tonight: Explain what voting for her says about you. Politics is about identity, and this is something that for a long time, Republicans understood better than Democrats. When you cast your ballot, what kind of statement are you making about yourself and who you are? When people voted for Ronald Reagan, they were proclaiming themselves to be patriotic and optimistic. When they voted for Barack Obama, they were proclaiming themselves part of a new America, diverse and cosmopolitan and unafraid of the future.

Fifty-two countries have had a female head of state already and Clinton would join Britain’s second female prime minister, Theresa May, and German chancellor Angela Merkel at the top table of elected leaders were she to win the US general election in November.

New Republic: Why the Bush Family Should Endorse Hillary Clinton

Flashback: Hillary Clinton at the 1992 Convention

"Hillary Clinton is that woman in the arena. She’s been there for us, even if we haven’t always noticed." —@POTUS

Checking In With The LGBT Caucus At The DNC

Hillary Clinton will be introduced tonight by her daughter, Chelsea.
posted by roomthreeseventeen (3603 comments total) 48 users marked this as a favorite
 
Let the games begincontinue!
posted by OmieWise at 12:55 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Great post! I'm so excited for tonight!
posted by joedan at 12:56 PM on July 28, 2016


May the odds be ever in our favor.
posted by cooker girl at 12:56 PM on July 28, 2016 [28 favorites]


Oh man, someone photoshop Putin suddenly having to deal with Clinton, Merkel, and May
posted by schadenfrau at 12:58 PM on July 28, 2016 [25 favorites]


It's the last day and we didn't reference Philadelphia. Couldn't we get a title like "Apparently Mr. Trump felt that they were too..."Ethnic" is the word he used. And he told me that he said that he would like it if we were something a little less garish, a little smaller, and more 'American.'"
posted by Talez at 12:58 PM on July 28, 2016


You did NOT just do that post title to my heart.
posted by Ambrosia Voyeur at 12:58 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


That New Republic article calling on HW and W Bush to endorse Clinton is interesting, not least because of how similar it would be to when the Socialists in France dropped candidates in some regions to defeat Le Pen.... I just wonder if HW is enough of a statesman to be willing to kill the Republican Party in order to save it.
posted by tclark at 12:58 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


I am sure that one of the few bright spots of W's disastrous presidency is that it permanently ruined Jeb!'s chances, but if it didn't, endorsing Clinton -- by any member of his close family -- would.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Bush family remained relatively silent about the election, though. And there's no doubt that Barack Obama and Bill Clinton will campaign, and be received, enthusiastically.
posted by Gelatin at 12:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Let's be real. The Bush family basically did endorse Clinton, for every Republican with a brain.
posted by corb at 12:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [71 favorites]


In case the youtube livestream is weird for some reason, it's also here on Twitch, which has been working flawlessly for me all week. (Turn off chat by hitting that gear at the bottom.)
posted by phunniemee at 12:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


That New Republic article calling on HW and W Bush to endorse Clinton is interesting, not least because of how similar it would be to when the Socialists in France dropped candidates in some regions to defeat Le Pen.... I just wonder if HW is enough of a statesman to be willing to kill the Republican Party in order to save it.

If they do, they might time it for October or early November, no?
posted by schadenfrau at 1:00 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


I'm hoping they do a better job of the balloon drop than the RNC did.
posted by joedan at 1:00 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


I made my first ever political contribution today. I couldn't give much, but I'm sure Hillary can put my $5 to good use.
posted by altopower at 1:00 PM on July 28, 2016 [27 favorites]


I wonder if Hillary will mention Lucretia Mott since A) she played a major role in the Seneca Falls Convention and 2) Ms Mott is a Philadelphian.
posted by NoMich at 1:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


The C-SPAN web site has a very complete schedule of speakers (better than the one of the official DNC site).
posted by mbrubeck at 1:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


As of right now no one has taken me up on my offer of a Pacific Islanders for Hillary button, so I'm repeating it here. You know you want it.
posted by sunset in snow country at 1:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


The Co-Chair of the Congressional LGBT Equality Caucus, Congressman Sean Patrick Maloney, who led the charge for an important LGBT equality bill in May, will speak. So will U.S. Representative Tammy Duckworth. Human Rights Campaign President Chad Griffin will address the convention, as will LGBT rights activist Sarah McBride – who will become the first openly-transgender person to address a major party's national convention tonight.

Other speakers include Civil Rights leaders and icons Dolores Huerta and U.S. Representative James Clyburn. House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, U.S. Senator Barbara Mikulski and the Democratic Women of the Senate. And U.S. Senator Sherrod Brown.

If that's not enough to draw in Democrats and possible Democratic voters, the celebrity lineup includes Katy Perry, Ted Danson & Mary Steenburgen, Sheila E + Family, and Carole King.
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 1:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


shit am I going to miss Sarah McBride?!? FUCK WORK ARGGGGG
posted by Annika Cicada at 1:05 PM on July 28, 2016


OMG YOU GUYS.

A link to this photo was buried in the fine print of a Hillary campaign email.

Now I'm going to have to go back and look at ALL OF THEM to see if there are more!
posted by cooker girl at 1:05 PM on July 28, 2016 [58 favorites]


I am going to miss the Adventures of Marcia Fudge and Gavel Show so much, y'all.
posted by Salieri at 1:05 PM on July 28, 2016 [14 favorites]


Let's be real. The Bush family basically did endorse Clinton, for every Republican with a brain.

Yes, but I also want the ones without a brain to know it. And as you witnessed first hand, there are quite a few of those around. They're sort of in charge of the party at the moment.
posted by tclark at 1:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [16 favorites]


It must have been 1973 or 74 because I think I would have been too young to remember. My mom and I were at some sort of state fair event in Connecticut when we came across a table with a long line. My mom had us stand in that line and that's where I met and shook hands with Ella Grasso. She was the first politician I'd ever met. She handed me a bumper sticker (which she'd signed and I kept for several years) and said something that I can't remember to me with a big smile on her face. My mom explained she was running for Governor. Since I had met her and had a bumper sticker (and really had no idea who she was running against or how elections worked when I was 6) I cheered for her when she won. My team!

My only other foray into the world of politics around that time was when my father and I were driving one day (it must have been August 4, 1974 for obvious reasons) and it was announced on the radio that Richard Nixon was boarding a helicopter and leaving the White House. I asked my father what happened. "He just resigned," said my dad. "Oh," said I, "has anyone told the king?"

I thought we had a king!

Anyhow, I have only just this week reflected on what a formative experience meeting Ella Grasso was for me. I mean, I've always taken it as a matter of course that women could govern because my first political memory was of a woman running for elected office!

That was over 40 years ago and in all that time, we've had two major party nominees for Vice President that were women but until this week, no major party presidential nominees. Say what you want about Senator/Secretary Clinton, but just the fact that she's the candidate - that a woman is the candidate for the Democrats for president of the United States - is an enormous deal. Take a second to celebrate that even if you can't celebrate her being nominated.

Which leads me to my actual point.

I was reflecting on Tulsi Gabbard these last few days. I'm from Hawaii and I'm a far-left progressive (one of my issues with Sanders was that he wasn't a true socialist - which really isn't fair and I would have voted for him in a heartbeat). Gabbard should be catnip for me. But... her family led the fight against marriage equality. And her family is wrapped up in a kind of cultish religion. And her family has a reputation (based on her father) of switching positions based on what is most likely to get them elected.

On the other hand, she's - generally speaking - voted and acted like a progressive. I'm holding a lot of strong emotional opinions about Gabbard not because of her actual actions and behaviors, but because of her name and my memories of things her mom and dad did. I don't trust her, though she's given me no reason not to trust her. I have a very, very hard time fighting through my feelings. In fact, if she were running for president, my brain would be screaming "nooooo."

But my brain recognizes two things. First, that's totally unfair to her. Second, there's nobody else from Hawaii that currently has her progressive voting records or credentials (not even Brian Schatz, who I love because I've interacted with him since he first ran for state office in my neighborhood years ago).

We don't get to wait for perfect candidates to move us forward. I would be voting against my own causes by voting against Gabbard - especially since my reasons for disliking her are entirely based on how I feel about her parents. I'd be ignoring her record.

Clinton has a much more complicated record, but in general, she has voted for more things I've voted for than not. She's not perfect - no candidate is - and if we wait for the perfect candidate (as one of my Facebook feminist friends said "I want a woman president - just not this one" - what the major hell!), we're going to lose our moment to elect one who is going to move us forward in so many ways.

And one of the ways she's going to move us forward is that in 18 years or less, there will be new voters who think that having a woman president is a totally normal thing.

And that makes me think about Ella Grasson. My first political hero. Would she were alive to see this! Love to you, Governor. I don't think there's an afterlife, but this year I hope there is so you can see what's happening here.
posted by Joey Michaels at 1:08 PM on July 28, 2016 [33 favorites]


I made my first ever political contribution today. I couldn't give much, but I'm sure Hillary can put my $5 to good use.

I made my first ever political contribution a couple days ago. Pretty much all I allow myself to spend money on these days is human food, cat food and kitty litter. My $10 for Hillary was a splurge. I look forward to receiving my sticker but kicked myself for not waiting a couple more days so I could get a magnet!
posted by wondermouse at 1:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [11 favorites]


(I hit post when I meant to hit preview and amended a line about Sanders in that longer post - apologies all)
posted by Joey Michaels at 1:10 PM on July 28, 2016


i would donate to clinton if it was possible for foreigners to do so. never thought i would write that
posted by Foci for Analysis at 1:12 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


Oh man, someone photoshop Putin suddenly having to deal with Clinton, Merkel, and May

I hope they all wear heels higher than his lifts!
posted by Kabanos at 1:13 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


Speaking as a grumpy leftist, I'll just say that I will vote for and support Hillary Clinton as President for eight years. But absolutely no more than that.
posted by Faint of Butt at 1:13 PM on July 28, 2016 [91 favorites]


i would probably donate to clinton if it was possible for foreigners to do so. never thought i would write that

Give the money to your best political parties and politicians instead. We need the partnership of your best leaders too. We're all in this together.
posted by biogeo at 1:13 PM on July 28, 2016 [40 favorites]


I really want Hillary to win, she'd do a great job. Personally, aside from liking stuff on Facebook and Twitter, I haven't talked about it much because I don't want to get in political arguments with people I know, especially with the sheer number of Bernie or Busters on my friends list.

Much of the knocks against her seem to be based off assuming she'd be exactly like Bill, which probably isn't the case.
posted by drezdn at 1:13 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


DNC live stream is now active.
posted by biogeo at 1:15 PM on July 28, 2016




Here comes our darling Marcia Fudge. :)
posted by stolyarova at 1:16 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Here comes Marsha Fudge!
posted by joedan at 1:16 PM on July 28, 2016


And a perfect gavel-in.
posted by biogeo at 1:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Go to hell Trump.
posted by cashman at 1:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


Tonight's speaker lineup includes the first trans woman to address the convention, Sarah McBride, (previously) who is absolutely amazing and makes me so fucking proud.
posted by odinsdream at 1:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [18 favorites]


Trump just released a statement “on America’s future”

What would be some of President Trump’s longer-term views of the future?
"I think of the future, but I refuse to paint it. Anything can happen. But I often think of nuclear war."
posted by OnceUponATime at 1:18 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


"Star Trek Actor George Takei on Peter Theil's speech at the Republican National Convention and Donald Trump's promise to protect the LGBT community."
posted by kirkaracha at 1:18 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Okay this Eastern Orthodox (?) guy is adorable.
posted by stolyarova at 1:18 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


it was announced on the radio that Richard Nixon was boarding a helicopter and leaving the White House. I asked my father what happened. "He just resigned," said my dad. "Oh," said I, "has anyone told the king?"

I thought we had a king!


Children's entertainment is filled with kings, but isn't exactly awash in presidents is it?

I suppose you're too young to remember SUPER PRESIDENT*.

--------------------------------------
* And Jerry.
posted by Herodios at 1:18 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


You know, I wrote a 3-page essay about Hillary on Facebook. And the response has been surprisingly positive! All these Hillary supporters came out of the woodwork. Sad that we've all been quiet until now, and many others shared that they too hesitated to say anything for fear of a shit storm.

Since posting the essay I feel like my opinions are out there so I've been a little more willing to step into the fray and call out BS. On the other hand, I think my stress levels are higher than normal because I yelled at a lot of people on my bike commute home yesterday.
posted by misskaz at 1:19 PM on July 28, 2016 [35 favorites]


Why would I read anything from the human cantaloupe? I deal with Trump (including viewing or hearing his moving image) at at least one remove at all times.
posted by bearwife at 1:19 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


The clean aesthetics of the DNC makes me realize the RNC had the aesthetics of a rhinestone cowboy gas station casino.
posted by Annika Cicada at 1:19 PM on July 28, 2016 [21 favorites]


Here comes our darling Marcia Fudge. :)

You can't have her!
 
posted by Herodios at 1:19 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


I went to buy a District of Columbia for Hillary t-shirt and where all of the other shirts have a star for their capital, we have a little White House. Awwww. Also buying like all the buttons omg her button game, flawless
posted by everybody had matching towels at 1:20 PM on July 28, 2016 [11 favorites]


Okay this Eastern Orthodox (?) guy is adorable.

Oh God he's so soft-spoken with his beard, reading off his notes and mispronouncing Hillary's middle name.

I love him.
posted by Salieri at 1:20 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


The C-SPAN web site has a very complete schedule of speakers (better than the one of the official DNC site).

Marlon Marshall is speaking--that's kind of awesome, actually. Did Bird speak in 2012? I don't remember.
posted by dersins at 1:20 PM on July 28, 2016


"Heelarie Rodema Cleenton"
posted by Annika Cicada at 1:21 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/foreign.php

me, i'm kinda done with hipster beards...
posted by OHenryPacey at 1:21 PM on July 28, 2016


Speaking as a grumpy leftist, I'll just say that I will vote for and support Hillary Clinton as President for eight years.

I'm not ruling out quixotic primary bids in four years. Otherwise, same.
posted by fifthrider at 1:21 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


I know it's in Hillary's personal history that her work for bettering the lives of children is important. I understand why this aspect has been so played up during her run up to this convention and the convention itself. I am concerned, however, what kind of a precedent this makes for other women--women who don't have kids or who aren't grandmothers or who spent their lives working for other noble causes.

In a lot of ways it feels like the only way for a woman to get accepted to join the adult's political table is if she takes an approach that's trademarked Traditional Female Values of Motherhood (minus the apple pie). Yes, she's tough, she's hunted terrorists and brought world leaders to their knees, but MORE IMPORTANTLY she is the epitome of a woman because she has borne a child, and her child has borne a child, and her motherly instincts have been working to protect other mothers' children. That's the only acceptable narrative. Even the listening and working co-operatively part of her credentials falls into the traditional woman's--and mother's--role of fulfilling the emotional labour aspects of keeping the family together.

Look, I'm not from the US. I know there are women who have held and do currently hold positions of political power around the world, and I know they have taken a number of differing approaches to get there, but symbolically I've been having a really hard time with this presentation of Hillary the politician. I'm afraid it will really change (push back perhaps) the way women are viewed in politics both inside and outside the US. We all know American marketing messages tend to be overpowering, and the potential influence of this message is stoking my concerns and feeding my fears.

Please note, I have nothing against Hillary, and I understand why she and her team have chosen this tactic. It's politically advantageous to do so, especially as it helps her overcome all of the horrible, nasty accusations that have been levelled against her since Bill first took public office. I'm old enough to remember the attacks on her hair, her wardrobe, her intellect, her ambition, her drive, etc., and I understand the challenges of overcoming decades of that kind of criticism and turning her into a brand that can appeal to the widest number of voters possible. I just have to wonder about the consequences past this election.
posted by sardonyx at 1:21 PM on July 28, 2016 [11 favorites]


Really fun drawings by famous cartoonist Ann Telnaes of the convention (even an animated GIF).
posted by emjaybee at 1:21 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


This lady is MLK Jr.'s daughter, everybody.
posted by stolyarova at 1:22 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


Trump just released a statement “on America’s future”

"At Hillary Clinton's convention this week, Democrats have been speaking about a world that doesn't exist. A world where...convention stages don't need American flags"

Ha, you almost had me, satirical Twitter poster, but then you made the mistake of --

Oh. That's real. That's a real thing a real nominee for the American presidency thought of, put on paper, and then decided was worth sharing with the world. Well then.
posted by cjelli at 1:22 PM on July 28, 2016 [26 favorites]


Why would I read anything from the human cantaloupe?

Does anyone else think that cantaloupes smell kind of like rotting garbage? Sort of a sickeningly sweet, decomposing smell. Anyway, that's what I think Trump's cologne might smell like.
posted by Faint of Butt at 1:22 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


Also buying like all the buttons omg her button game, flawless

It really is! I'm not a button guy, so I wish I could get these two buttons as tshirts or magnets. Also, Rosie Perez was on CNN with what I think was a "Yo Hillary" button, which I loved.
posted by cashman at 1:23 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Does anyone else think that cantaloupes smell kind of like rotting garbage? Sort of a sickeningly sweet, decomposing smell. Anyway, that's what I think Trump's cologne soul might smell like.

Fixed &c.
posted by dersins at 1:23 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


The (other) Dr KING!!!!
posted by ramix at 1:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


I want her Polka Dot Dress.
posted by Annika Cicada at 1:24 PM on July 28, 2016


You know, I wrote a 3-page essay about Hillary on Facebook. And the response has been surprisingly positive!

Would you mind sharing it? I am trying to work on something myself and would love some guides.
posted by odinsdream at 1:24 PM on July 28, 2016


Why I am suddenly so nervous? I want tonight to go so well. I think a lot of it is that feeling where, as a woman, I'm often in situations where there is no way to win. Harassed on the street? Mansplained? My space on the sidewalk taken up by some oblivious dude? My ass grabed by a stranger in a public place? A "harmless joke" at work about how hot I am? Talked over at work? There is never a "right" way to respond. There is never the perfect thing to say or wear or do that will get ensure that I'm seen as a full human being.

I want Hillary to fucking own her place tonight. And I don't want to hear the inevitable misogynist bullshit that lists all the ways that, once again, a woman has failed to meet impossible and always moving standards.

And, my god, do I hate that she has to bear the weight of all of that tonight.
posted by mcduff at 1:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [75 favorites]


Hahahaha all those lovely delegates holding their cheese-hats in respect during the opening prayers. I love this country.
posted by Salieri at 1:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [40 favorites]


I am concerned, however, what kind of a precedent this makes for other women--women who don't have kids or who aren't grandmothers or who spent their lives working for other noble causes.

I don't have kids. I'm not a grandmother. For me, she has led on plenty other than being a working mom. Like, rights for the disabled, for ALL women, for ALL children, health care, gun regulation, the minimum wage, and more. For forty years.
posted by bearwife at 1:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [46 favorites]


The clean aesthetics of the DNC makes me realize the RNC had the aesthetics of a rhinestone cowboy gas station casino

Who shared that story a few threads back about being a kid and taken to Trump tower by his dad and his dad spent the time pointing out all the little mistakes and cheap construction? I wish I could find it because there's your explanation.
posted by downtohisturtles at 1:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [17 favorites]


In a lot of ways it feels like the only way for a woman to get accepted to join the adult's political table is if she takes an approach that's trademarked Traditional Female Values of Motherhood

I definitely struggle with feeling this way about Hillary too. But honestly, if that's what it takes to get into the White House, then that's what it takes. I try to remind myself that these "feminine" things that she supports are genuinely good things that shouldn't be denigrated just because they're "feminine".
posted by ashirys at 1:26 PM on July 28, 2016 [26 favorites]


Would you mind sharing it? I am trying to work on something myself and would love some guides.

You're Meredith McIver, and I claim my five pounds.
posted by tclark at 1:26 PM on July 28, 2016 [17 favorites]


"Best of women"

OK, OK, I guess "Include women in the sequel" has been a bit done this week anyway.

posted by lunasol at 1:26 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Bad-ass union soldiers as the color guard yessssssss
posted by arcolz at 1:26 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


"At Hillary Clinton's convention this week, Democrats have been speaking about a world that doesn't exist. A world where...convention stages don't need American flags"

lol there are like 8 American flags on the stage right this second.
posted by soren_lorensen at 1:27 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


Has every one of the color guards been super old? I missed Tuesday and Wednesday's start.
posted by DynamiteToast at 1:27 PM on July 28, 2016


Damnit, I just ordered some Hillary buttons, and now they have new, cooler Hillary buttons. I may need to put in another order.
posted by ArbitraryAndCapricious at 1:27 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


I know it's in Hillary's personal history that her work for bettering the lives of children is important. I understand why this aspect has been so played up during her run up to this convention and the convention itself. I am concerned, however, what kind of a precedent this makes for other women . . .

Short answer: Everybody's different. This is her. U do u (for all values of u).
 
posted by Herodios at 1:27 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


I'm hoping they do a better job of the balloon drop than the RNC did.

The balloons are ready.
posted by zombieflanders at 1:28 PM on July 28, 2016


Bringing in newly nationalized US citizens to do the pledge is a nice touch.
posted by joedan at 1:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Oh boy the timing on this pledge. PS fuck the pledge, cold war bullshit
posted by dis_integration at 1:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


Would you mind sharing it? I am trying to work on something myself and would love some guides.

Sure. (It's public, anyone should be able to see it.) But it's not really anything that hasn't been said here in these threads, and probably more eloquently. If I were writing it today I'd change a lot but I had been editing it for a week and needed to call it done for my own mental health and productivity at work.

It did get me invited to a secret Hillary FB group though, so that made me happy.
posted by misskaz at 1:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


The girls just want to have fun - damental human rights tote bag is marketed towards me a ridiculous amount.
posted by dinty_moore at 1:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [15 favorites]


Also buying like all the buttons omg her button game, flawless

It really is! I'm not a button guy, so I wish I could get these two buttons as tshirts or magnets. Also, Rosie Perez was on CNN with what I think was a "Yo Hillary" button, which I loved.


A friend posted on facebook that he was invited by the Campaign Team as part of a "Forty-Five Pin Project" to design buttons. A lot of well-known designers have designs in the collection, it's quite an honor!
posted by maggiemaggie at 1:28 PM on July 28, 2016


Trump just released a statement “on America’s future”

Donald Trump: "I am a fan of the future, and cyber is the future"
posted by Kabanos at 1:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


When HRC comes on, we will be drinking GIN-GHAZI!!!, a punch I concocted featuring:
*Bilberry nectar (for the color and Bill pun)
*Fresh grated ginger
*The juice of many lemons
*Club soda
*A fifth of New Amsterdam (for the former Senator from NY) gin
I set a booze-free portion aside for my daughter, she will be drinking virGIN-GHAZI!!! tonight.
posted by palindromic at 1:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [72 favorites]


I try to remind myself that these "feminine" things that she supports are genuinely good things that shouldn't be denigrated just because they're "feminine".

Favoriting wasn't enough, I have to repeat it. And supplement with this important speech, worth contemplating as we watch tonight.
posted by biogeo at 1:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


The optics of these opening ceremonies every day . . . keep making me tear up. African American soldiers, new citizens leading the pledge, a gorgeous woman of color singing the anthem . . .
posted by bearwife at 1:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


AWESOME TITLE! Thanks for the new post! :)
posted by zarq at 1:29 PM on July 28, 2016


The girls just want to have fun - damental human rights tote bag is marketed towards me a ridiculous amount.

Like, if it was a chico bag I would start wondering if there was a special committee to help market things to dinty_moore.
posted by dinty_moore at 1:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Wow, they are NOT fucking around with the optics of anything. New citizens giving the pledge of allegiance? All POC color guard? Black woman powerfully singing the anthem?

Paraphrasing someone in the Day 3 thread... this is literally the greatest show on earth, and I mean that seriously and non-trivially.
posted by odinsdream at 1:30 PM on July 28, 2016 [11 favorites]


I feel left out because there's not a "Teachers for H" sticker like there is for labor. That's leaving money on the table people!
posted by Wulfhere at 1:30 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Scott Adams on twitter: If experience is necessary for being president, name a political topic I can't master in one hour under the tutelage of top experts.

Darth: Modesty
posted by drezdn at 1:30 PM on July 28, 2016 [101 favorites]


Trump just released a statement “on America’s future”

"DAMMIT BE MORE AFRAID YOU JERKS"
posted by Lentrohamsanin at 1:30 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


Trump just released a statement “on America’s future”

"....we will put America First"

You keep using that phrase. I do not think it means what you think it means.
posted by zarq at 1:30 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


Something I've loved in this convention is the range of people the organizers have put front and center, who would absolutely be disrespected and mocked specifically by Trump -- people with strong accents from around the world, people with disabilities, people who are old, speak slowly, move slowly, and so on. It's just such a strong demonstration of the difference.
posted by LobsterMitten at 1:31 PM on July 28, 2016 [27 favorites]


The problem Hillary and any First Woman to do X bears is that they cannot possibly be what everyone needs them to be, because they're only one person. The trick is to remember is that she will not be our only woman president, just our first one. It's ok if she's not perfect. She does not have to be everything to everybody, any more than a male president does.

She just has to open the door and make the path for the ones after her. Some of them will be better! Some worse! At some point, a woman president will be wholly unremarkable and kids will yawn through history lessons about how women used to not be able to be president, or vote, and they roll their eyes at how stupid people used to be. They'll take it for granted.
posted by emjaybee at 1:31 PM on July 28, 2016 [85 favorites]


Why I am suddenly so nervous? I want tonight to go so well. I think a lot of it is that feeling where, as a woman, I'm often in situations where there is no way to win. Harassed on the street? Mansplained? My space on the sidewalk taken up by some oblivious dude? My ass grabed by a stranger in a public place? A "harmless joke" at work about how hot I am? Talked over at work? There is never a "right" way to respond. There is never the perfect thing to say or wear or do that will get ensure that I'm seen as a full human being.

I want Hillary to fucking own her place tonight. And I don't want to hear the inevitable misogynist bullshit that lists all the ways that, once again, a woman has failed to meet impossible and always moving standards.


I agree with this. I was thinking about when she is doing her speech and then right afterward, just not saying anything. Men are always talking. Always sharing their opinion (even now clearly), always filling the room with man opinion #85 trillion and one. I think I'm just going to applaud and watch. Like don't you wish that after she delivered her speech, it didn't immediately go to CNN man, Fox man, NBC man, to talk about what you just saw? I'd love it if Hillary's election as president ushered in a new era of shhhhh for men.
posted by cashman at 1:31 PM on July 28, 2016 [29 favorites]


all those lovely delegates holding their cheese-hats in respect during the opening prayers

What was happening on stage during that, which prayer? I just really want a screengrab of that magic and can't seem to find it.
posted by everybody had matching towels at 1:31 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Paraphrasing someone in the Day 3 thread... this is literally the greatest show on earth, and I mean that seriously and non-trivially.

Paraphasing the rest of the Day 3 thread....it is, except for Hamilton!
posted by zachlipton at 1:31 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


"They'll tell the story of tonight."
posted by drezdn at 1:31 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]




As of right now no one has taken me up on my offer of a Pacific Islanders for Hillary button, so I'm repeating it here. You know you want it.

While I'm from a Pacific Island, I'm unfortunately not a Pacific Islander. (Ironically, though, I could wear the Asian American button that you kept, though it'd be weird since I don't pass for one.)
posted by tobascodagama at 1:32 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


"They'll tell the story of tonight."

Arrrgh, that's a good title, too.
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 1:32 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


If anyone missed the Solemn Responsibility video that was shown during the DNC last night, it's worth watching.
posted by zarq at 1:33 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


The league of what now?
posted by PenDevil at 1:33 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


my boyfriend wants to watch the soccer All Star Game tonight but I was like...but...,my all star game is on!!
posted by zutalors! at 1:33 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Oh League of Conservation Voters. I thought it was League of Conservative Voters...
posted by PenDevil at 1:34 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]




I do not think it means what you think it means.

It is problematic, is it not, to just not read?
posted by bearwife at 1:34 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


lol I thought the announcer said "League of Conservative Voters" and I was like dafuq wow Republicans really are fleeing from Trump! But then he started talking about climate change and duh.
posted by soren_lorensen at 1:34 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


You guys, I'm kind of ... having a hard time processing all the emotions this convention is making me feel. I've worked in and around politics for my entire career, and I grew up in a political family, but I have never been so into a convention before. I usually just tune in maybe for the big speeches, and find the whole thing just too stage-managed and usually kind of boring.

But this year is different - I'm watching this one so obsessively, and it's just pushing all my emotional buttons in the best way. I finally realized why I love it so much - it's the first convention I've seen that does not put straight cis white men at the center. It's just this glorious parade of smart, passionate accomplished women and people of color and queer people.

And yeah, that's been the case in the past, but it always sort of felt like it was being done in a box-checking way, to cause the least possible offense to straight cis white men, who are the real audience. But this time, those guys are not the main audience and it shows. And it's just so immensely satisfying.

I made my first donation to the Hillary campaign this week, and today I made that contribution a monthly one. I will always have my problems with mainstream Democrats, but representation matters, and the representation here is so good.
posted by lunasol at 1:34 PM on July 28, 2016 [53 favorites]


The League of who?
*My shocked face!!
posted by ramix at 1:34 PM on July 28, 2016


this guy is Sanders minus the adorable
posted by stolyarova at 1:34 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


The announcer said "League of Conservative Voters" but the screens read "League of Conservation Voters".
posted by The Nutmeg of Consolation at 1:35 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


Never mind!
posted by ramix at 1:35 PM on July 28, 2016




"Dirty, Dangerous, Denying Donald"

Add in Deadbeat for alliterative completeness.
posted by palindromic at 1:36 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


I think the announcer actually DID say "League of Conservative Voters," did I mishear?
posted by biogeo at 1:36 PM on July 28, 2016


I am sure that one of the few bright spots of W's disastrous presidency is that it permanently ruined Jeb!'s chances, but if it didn't, endorsing Clinton -- by any member of his close family -- would.

Jeb ruined his chances at the presidency when he burned through a massive amount of money in the primary for (and forgive me for stealing a 30 year old Dennis Miller gag here) the same number of delegates that I landed and I didn't even run. Maybe he could run an insurgent campaign and get some serious traction and then, on the strength of that, start getting some serious backer dollars. But as it stands? He's done. Nobody is ever going to put serious coin behind a run effort on Jeb Bush.
posted by phearlez at 1:36 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


He just isn't a good speaker. He's sure right on the content.
posted by bearwife at 1:36 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


As somebody who works seconds, I gotta ask- will the individual speeches from the DNC be available on YouTube, like individual GamesDoneQuick speedruns after the event?
posted by Pope Guilty at 1:36 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


On my first day of college, I sat down next to another young woman in a class about democracy. We exchanged small talk and it struck me how extraordinarily self-assured and well-informed she was. Our paths rarely crossed after that, and I met a lot of other amazing people, but she still stands out in my mind. We're both pretty young still, although she's held some really lofty positions in government already, but the guy she married, who is also extraordinary, is writing Hillary's speech tonight, and I know she's had some input. I am hoping with all my heart that after tonight, this totally inconsequential memory becomes a story I can tell my grandchildren.
posted by acidic at 1:36 PM on July 28, 2016 [34 favorites]


When HRC comes on, we will be drinking GIN-GHAZI!!!, a punch I concocted featuring: *Bilberry nectar (for the color and Bill pun) *Fresh grated ginger *The juice of many lemons *Club soda *A fifth of New Amsterdam (for the former Senator from NY) gin I set a booze-free portion aside for my daughter, she will be drinking virGIN-GHAZI!!! tonight.

brb have to go to the store
posted by Superplin at 1:36 PM on July 28, 2016 [14 favorites]


You know, seeing all these awesome people like Donna Brazile appearing on stage, I like to remind myself that - they're all for real and are going right back to work after this convention is over, along with Barack and Joe and Michelle and all the rest of the luminaries who have given such amazing speeches. The Democratic party really does have an amazingly deep bench of fighters, and they're all going to be out there doing their best for November and beyond.

I only see them in action in moments like this, but they're out there in the trenches trying to do the right thing every day. That's pretty fantastic.
posted by Salieri at 1:37 PM on July 28, 2016 [11 favorites]


my boyfriend wants to watch the soccer All Star Game tonight but I was like...but...,my all star game is on!!

The Greatest Show On Earth!
 
posted by Herodios at 1:37 PM on July 28, 2016


i would donate to clinton if it was possible for foreigners to do so. never thought i would write that

there are other ways to help out

for example

hack into the IRS database and leak Tronald Dump's tax returns
posted by Vic Morrow's Personal Vietnam at 1:37 PM on July 28, 2016 [17 favorites]


The announcer said "League of Conservative Voters"

yeah that got me excited for a second about more Republicans coming out for Hillary
posted by numaner at 1:37 PM on July 28, 2016


my boyfriend wants to watch the soccer All Star Game tonight but I was like...but...,my all star game is on!!

The Greatest Show On Earth!

posted by Herodios at 4:37 PM on July 28 [+] You hit your favorite limit for the day. [!]


noooooooooooo IT JUST STARTED!
posted by numaner at 1:38 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


As somebody who works seconds, I gotta ask- will the individual speeches from the DNC be available on YouTube, like individual GamesDoneQuick speedruns after the event?

Yep. The official YouTube account posts every one, both as individual videos and a long stream of each day, including Spanish translations. C-SPAN has them too.
posted by zachlipton at 1:38 PM on July 28, 2016 [13 favorites]


"Adventures of a Clintern" (A comic by Anna Sellheim)
posted by oakroom at 1:38 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


Thanks, Zach!
posted by Pope Guilty at 1:39 PM on July 28, 2016


This woman's speech is really sweet.
posted by biogeo at 1:39 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


As somebody who works seconds, I gotta ask- will the individual speeches from the DNC be available on YouTube, like individual GamesDoneQuick speedruns after the event?

C-SPAN is bringing the heat in this arena.
posted by phunniemee at 1:39 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


If anyone missed the Solemn Responsibility video that was shown during the DNC last night, it's worth watching.

That was really powerful. Thanks for highlighting it.

The DNC video production team is hitting it out of the park
posted by joedan at 1:39 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


"Living on a Prayer"?
posted by palindromic at 1:40 PM on July 28, 2016


joedan: That was really powerful. Thanks for highlighting it.

You're welcome!

The DNC video production team is hitting it out of the park

They are!
posted by zarq at 1:40 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


> What was happening on stage during that, which prayer? I just really want a screengrab of that magic and can't seem to find it.

Ugh I can't remember the speaker's name - Raul something? - and he was at first speaking in what I think was a Native language (that I don't remember seeing identified on screen) before switching to English.
posted by Salieri at 1:40 PM on July 28, 2016


Trump just released a statement “on America’s future”

Boy, that's a game-changer.

/hamburger
posted by palmcorder_yajna at 1:41 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


I know it's in Hillary's personal history that her work for bettering the lives of children is important. I understand why this aspect has been so played up during her run up to this convention and the convention itself. I am concerned, however, what kind of a precedent this makes for other women--women who don't have kids or who aren't grandmothers or who spent their lives working for other noble causes.

As a childless woman, I don't really worry about that. I haven't gotten any sense that Hillary is trying to send a message that every woman must have at least one child if she is physically capable of it. I mean, to me it's nice that she cares about children after they're born, unlike the GOP which only cares about embryos and fetuses.
posted by wondermouse at 1:41 PM on July 28, 2016 [35 favorites]


huh surprising number of cheers for standing by Israel
posted by stolyarova at 1:41 PM on July 28, 2016


hack into the IRS database and leak Tronald Dump's tax returns

Excuse me but we don't incite foreigners to make cyberwarfare on the United States even though it's apparently ok now.
posted by Talez at 1:42 PM on July 28, 2016 [24 favorites]


"I am a fan of the future, and cyber is the future"

Uhh. Donald? You're gross. I'd never ask your ASL on IRC.
posted by Annika Cicada at 1:43 PM on July 28, 2016 [34 favorites]


I'd do it in a rabbit heartbeat, just to have the chat logs to pass around
posted by middleclasstool at 1:43 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


"I put on my robe and wizard hat..."
posted by infinitywaltz at 1:44 PM on July 28, 2016 [14 favorites]


"I have a really great erection right now. Really tremendous. You had something to do with part of that."
posted by middleclasstool at 1:44 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


Something something centipede roleplay.
posted by fifthrider at 1:44 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


When HRC comes on, we will be drinking GIN-GHAZI!!!, a punch I concocted featuring: *Bilberry nectar (for the color and Bill pun) *Fresh grated ginger *The juice of many lemons *Club soda *A fifth of New Amsterdam (for the former Senator from NY) gin I set a booze-free portion aside for my daughter, she will be drinking virGIN-GHAZI!!! tonight.

fedward I demand you make this the next time you have a shindig.
posted by phearlez at 1:44 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


First Things: "Rotting-Flesh Reaganism"
posted by Apocryphon at 1:45 PM on July 28, 2016


I actually left work early today so I would not miss anything. YAY LET'S GO
posted by winna at 1:46 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


I have a 4PM meeting. I am so annoyed right now. I'm gonna miss Sarah. I just know it. *cries*
posted by Annika Cicada at 1:46 PM on July 28, 2016


As somebody who works seconds, I gotta ask- will the individual speeches from the DNC be available on YouTube, like individual GamesDoneQuick speedruns after the event?

Yah all the big ones at least, I didn't check for every speaker. Also it seems they uploaded all the separate speeches, then the intro videos afterwards, so the order's a bit funky but you can find a speech easily if you know who you're looking for.
posted by DynamiteToast at 1:46 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


huh surprising number of cheers for standing by Israel
70% of American Jewry voted for Obama in 2012. They're pretty much still rock solid Dems.
posted by PenDevil at 1:46 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


I know it's in Hillary's personal history that her work for bettering the lives of children is important. I understand why this aspect has been so played up during her run up to this convention and the convention itself. I am concerned, however, what kind of a precedent this makes for other women--women who don't have kids or who aren't grandmothers or who spent their lives working for other noble causes.


She said women's rights are human rights, not mothers' rights. She's worked for equal pay, reproductive rights, etc. She's talked about it in all her speeches. I haven't really ever heard her frame talking about women as only talking about them as mothers or grandmothers.
posted by zutalors! at 1:46 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


huh surprising number of cheers for standing by Israel

I think most Democrats and most Americans are for standing by a close ally like Israel, generally speaking. The tension usually results from people using "standing by" as a way of saying "acting to further the interests of Israel even if those interests are opposed to the US's own interests", or, as is sometimes the case, "acting to further the political career of Israel's current prime minister."
posted by tonycpsu at 1:46 PM on July 28, 2016 [13 favorites]


"operation wetback"??? what in the world
posted by boo_radley at 1:46 PM on July 28, 2016


"I have a really great erection right now. Really tremendous. You had something to do with part of that."

Ugh, mods, cleanup in aisle blech.
posted by tonycpsu at 1:47 PM on July 28, 2016 [20 favorites]


Can I just say how cool it is that the mods agreed to do the post a day thing. It has made it much more manageable for those of us on mobiles.
posted by SecretAgentSockpuppet at 1:47 PM on July 28, 2016 [34 favorites]


uhhh "the yellow flock, the muslim flock" this guy needs to get done and go
posted by stolyarova at 1:47 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


The trick is to remember is that she will not be our only woman president, just our first one. It's ok if she's not perfect

Seriously, we started out with Margaret Thatcher so you're not doing too badly over there.
posted by emilyw at 1:47 PM on July 28, 2016 [37 favorites]


Speaker now referencing Operation Wetback, a shameful moment in our history that not enough Americans know about.
posted by joedan at 1:48 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


uhhh "the yellow flock, the muslim flock" this guy needs to get done and go

I turned the live feed on during this guy... what the hell? Awful.
posted by knapah at 1:49 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


He said "Spearow." Pokemon GO player confirmed.
posted by stolyarova at 1:49 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Seriously, we started out with Margaret Thatcher so you're not doing too badly over there.

And the second one is Theresa May. God save the Queen.
posted by Talez at 1:49 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


So, yesterday I downloaded the HRC app, because I've been wowed by her technology/social media work. Only working on iPhone right now. And it is a lot of fun, to my surprise. There are cool videos, an office to decorate, quizzes, and a lot more.

Breitbart hates it, which makes me like it more.
posted by bearwife at 1:50 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


First Things: "Rotting Flesh Reaganism"

My favorite/least favorite thing about people with no understanding of oppression or structural power trying to do analysis of intersectionality is how utterly incapable they are of making even a little sense.
posted by Pope Guilty at 1:50 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


That First Things article says that the Drmocrats talking about a war on women is simply divisive and politically correct. Fuck you, First Things.
posted by OmieWise at 1:50 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Seriously, we started out with Margaret Thatcher so you're not doing too badly over there.

I've been wanting to make a similar joke all week but felt like it wasn't my place. So thank you.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 1:50 PM on July 28, 2016


"Before there was a Hillary Clinton, there was a Shirley Chilsholm."
posted by winna at 1:50 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


"Unbowed, unbroken, and unafraid"

I thought he was going with "unbowed, unbent, unbroken" for a minute.
posted by stolyarova at 1:50 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


I just turn it on, was it Villaraigosa saying the "yellow flock" stuff?
posted by sideshow at 1:50 PM on July 28, 2016


huh surprising number of cheers for standing by Israel

Without necessarily supporting every awful thing its government does (and I seriously hope we don't go there in this thread), supporting the continued existence of Israel as a country is important to a lot of people, yes. A group of protesters burnt an Israeli flag outside the DNC the other night while chanting "long live the intifada." It's almost certainly not an accident that Bill Clinton turned up last night sporting a pin that says "Hillary" in Hebrew as a response, and other references to it by speakers are coming within that context as well.
posted by zachlipton at 1:51 PM on July 28, 2016 [18 favorites]


Speaker now referencing Operation Wetback, a shameful moment in our history that not enough Americans know about.

My grandmother, including her siblings and her parents were all deported then. Half of them were American citizens - born and raised in the US - but it didn't matter.
posted by vacapinta at 1:51 PM on July 28, 2016 [31 favorites]


"Stand up if you're ready to keep our kids and our cops safe and end the structural racism that sends our young men to prison. Stand up if Black Lives Matter."
posted by winna at 1:52 PM on July 28, 2016 [15 favorites]


So, yesterday I downloaded the HRC app, because I've been wowed by her technology/social media work. Only working on iPhone right now. And it is a lot of fun, to my surprise. There are cool videos, an office to decorate, quizzes, and a lot more.

Breitbart hates it, which makes me like it more.


Can't wait for it to come to Android!
posted by DynamiteToast at 1:52 PM on July 28, 2016


Yes, it was Villaraigosa.
posted by stolyarova at 1:52 PM on July 28, 2016


Jaime Harrison, chair of the SC Democratic Party.

"as a demagogue preaches nostalgia for the past, it's important for us to remember our past."
posted by winna at 1:52 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


"Johnson knew that (by signing the Voting Rights Act) the Democrats would lose the south for a generation."
posted by winna at 1:53 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


"We can't go back to that old America. We can't go back to that Old South."
posted by winna at 1:54 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


Yes, it was Villaraigosa.

Huh, oh well, we got LA Hunk (and also current Mayor) Eric Garcetti coming up in a bit to redeem us.
posted by sideshow at 1:54 PM on July 28, 2016


I know it's in Hillary's personal history that her work for bettering the lives of children is important. I understand why this aspect has been so played up during her run up to this convention and the convention itself. I am concerned, however, what kind of a precedent this makes for other women--women who don't have kids or who aren't grandmothers or who spent their lives working for other noble causes.

Before I started in HIV work, I was a clinic escort for Feminist Majority. I knew I would never have children, but the fight for reproductive rights was important to me and the people I loved. I was also not a gay man, but I started working in the HIV field in 1990 when most people with HIV were gay men because it was important to me and the people I loved.

Also, I was a child once, and frankly I was treated like shit. My parents were mentally ill and if I had thought for one minute that calling them on their abuse wouldn't have sent me somewhere worse, I would have. So it's important as a former child, that I support children to come.
posted by Sophie1 at 1:55 PM on July 28, 2016 [51 favorites]


"50-State Strategy" <- That was Howard Dean's legacy
posted by Annika Cicada at 1:56 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


Are they chanting for Bernie already, or am I mishearing?
posted by Superplin at 1:56 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


At least I get to see Chad Griffin.
posted by Annika Cicada at 1:56 PM on July 28, 2016


Hey hipsters take notes from this guy, this is how you do. <3
posted by stolyarova at 1:56 PM on July 28, 2016


"'Ask the gays.' Well, since he asked, here goes."
posted by biogeo at 1:57 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


Chad Griffin, HRC - "(Trump) challenged his critics to 'ask the gays'. Well, here goes."
posted by winna at 1:57 PM on July 28, 2016 [16 favorites]


I read this:

"Let's be real. The Bush family basically did endorse Clinton, for every Republican with a brain."

and I thought to myself, "You want real? Right now I think I only know one single Republican with a br-"

and then my eyes continued downward and hit

posted by corb

It was like some sort of instant noodles miniature version of a self-fulfilling prophecy or something.

anyway, hi corb! I was very appreciative of your posts during the RNC and I'm glad to have you in these threads as well. The offer of drinks in New Orleans still stands, of course.
posted by komara at 1:58 PM on July 28, 2016 [23 favorites]


Wow. This guy is great.
posted by lkc at 1:58 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


joedan: Speaker now referencing Operation Wetback, a shameful moment in our history that not enough Americans know about.

All the Trump supporters know about it, because Trump made a big deal about how it proved that his plan to deport millions of people was possible. "Eisenhower, great president, one of the best..."
posted by clawsoon at 1:58 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


And finally, here's veteran silly person Bill O'Reilly, defending his embattled TV network and his position as the nation's worst history professor.

Love me some Charlie Pierce but this is incorrect. Has he forgotten about Glenn Beck?

Actually, what is Glenn Beck up to these days?

*googles*

huh so apparently Donald Trump is too white nationalist for Glenn fucking Beck... the mind boggles.
posted by tivalasvegas at 1:58 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Are they chanting for Bernie already, or am I mishearing?

I thought I heard some Bernie chants, but it was no where near as loud as Day 1 and didn't last more than a few seconds.
posted by joedan at 1:58 PM on July 28, 2016


One of my friends from El Salvador says that she won't be voting for Clinton, because Clinton has spent her term as Secretary of State essentially unleashing wave after wave of destruction across central America.

I really have no idea how to respond to that, except to say that all our major candidates are guaranteed to unleash destruction across the world regardless.
posted by Tyrant King Porn Dragon at 1:58 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


God DAMN Chad Griffin, GET IT!
posted by stolyarova at 1:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


"Long before Donald Trump struggled to read the letters 'LGBTQ' last week, Hillary Clinton told the world that gay rights are human rights, and human rights are gay rights."
posted by biogeo at 1:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [14 favorites]


"We are women!!!!" That's rad as fuck.
posted by Annika Cicada at 1:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


"Long before Donald Trump struggled to read the letters LGBTQ off a teleprompter last week, Hillary Clinton had proclaimed that gay rights are human rights and human rights are gay rights."
posted by winna at 1:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


I have my issues with HRC, but that's damn fiery: "Long before Trump struggled to read the letters LGBTQ off the teleprompter, Hillary Clinton stood before the United Nations and boldly declared that gay rights are human rights and human rights are gay rights."

"When you attack one of us, you attack all of us"
posted by zachlipton at 1:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


OMG I'm learning the secret of the signs!!
posted by Salieri at 2:00 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Now everyone's getting told how to do their card tricks tonight during Clinton's speech.
posted by zachlipton at 2:00 PM on July 28, 2016


Oooh, looks like they're doing something fun with the blacklight.
posted by stolyarova at 2:00 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Right now it looks like the conference center is lighted with black lights only?
posted by winna at 2:00 PM on July 28, 2016


Uh, guys, the DNC lighting team seems to have been taken over by a rave.
posted by biogeo at 2:00 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


wow, getting a view of card sync program
posted by mrzarquon at 2:00 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


"We promise you will not miss the balloon drop"
posted by zachlipton at 2:00 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Are they chanting for Bernie already, or am I mishearing?

There was some chanting for South Carolina's Jamie Harrison, I think (he beamed in their direction).
posted by everybody had matching towels at 2:01 PM on July 28, 2016


Quick someone hit play on the Skrillex playlist
posted by PenDevil at 2:01 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


BOW CHICKA BOW WOW
posted by stolyarova at 2:01 PM on July 28, 2016


Chad Griffin's speech was great!!!!!!
posted by one teak forest at 2:01 PM on July 28, 2016


Representative Cedric Richmond from Louisiana up now.
posted by winna at 2:01 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Yay card stunt!
posted by ActingTheGoat at 2:01 PM on July 28, 2016


Was the DNC audio feed the only one that included all the audio instructions for the crazy card program they are doing?
posted by mrzarquon at 2:01 PM on July 28, 2016


Uh, guys, the DNC lighting team seems to have been taken over by a rave.

IT'S THE GAY AGENDA! RUN! GET OUT BEFORE THE HOUSE MUSIC STARTS!
posted by Talez at 2:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [42 favorites]


Richmond quotes Robert Frost, says we still have miles to go.
posted by winna at 2:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


I don't know if I've ever heard a call and response with Robert Frost before.
posted by Salieri at 2:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


Bill Kristol burns Scott Adams.

Adams should delete his account after that.
posted by NoxAeternum at 2:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [50 favorites]


That poem was ironic but I am OK with this.
posted by mochapickle at 2:03 PM on July 28, 2016


That Robert Frost poem is actually really depressing, y'all.

/english major
posted by stolyarova at 2:04 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


Run, you pigeons! (To knock on doors.)
posted by gilrain at 2:04 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


"When we can't get Republicans to join us on sensible drug reform [...] we have miles to go before we sleep. [...] When you are campaigning this fall and feel you are exhausted, make one more call or knock on one more door. Because we still have miles to go before we sleep."
posted by winna at 2:04 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


huh so apparently Donald Trump is too white nationalist for Glenn fucking Beck... the mind boggles.

A few years ago my car radio was on the fritz and could only pick up AM stations. It started a habit of listening to right-wing talk radio that I continue to this day.

Glenn Beck thinks Trump is not a true conservative; he was pulling hard for Ted Cruz. He's been spending the last few months on his radio show splitting his time between railing against Trump and telling a history of the conservative movement going back to the nation's founding.
posted by joedan at 2:04 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


That Robert Frost poem is actually really depressing, y'all.

So is this damn election.
posted by zachlipton at 2:05 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


"When the NRA has neutered an entire Republican party..."
-next Trump tweet-
"My balls--and yes I have them, I have balls all over the place--my balls are yuge."
posted by phunniemee at 2:05 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]




Crisanta Duran, Majority Leader of the Colorado House of Representatives up now.
posted by winna at 2:05 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Bill Kristol burns Scott Adams.

Adams should delete his account after that.


Of the many things I don't understand about 2016, Bill Kristol's sudden face-turn is definitely one.
posted by tobascodagama at 2:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


A message about geography!!!!!!! It was a short video of Trump calling Belgium a city and it counts. Everything's coming up towels, you guys.
posted by everybody had matching towels at 2:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


My concern isn't what Hillary values or that she's promoting feminine values. My concern is for the next group of female politicians (or wannabe politicians) who don't have the same level of "mom-cred" as Hillary. We all know the patriarchy pushes back hard against what it isn't or what it deems unacceptable. Motherhood isn't something it can do, but it is something it can put on a pedestal and elevate as something noble and necessary, as long as it's performed in exactly the "correct" and non-threatening way.

Sadly, I can view the mom-factor as being a weapon used against childless women looking to win office--that they're too butch or too devoted to business or too selfish or too lacking in compassion to become politicians precisely because they don't have that perfectly acceptable mommy or pro-child background.

Look, as I said, I'm not American, but I've watched hours and hours of convention coverage, and I've been as impressed by the quality of speakers pulled together for the DNC as I was unimpressed by those who took the stage at the RNC. There is no way in the world that I want to see that lunatic Trump put in charge down there. The word is unstable enough without that happening. Watching the Democratic race, I've been on Hillary's side slightly more often than I was on Bernie's side, primarily because I thought she would be able to put herself in a better position to get things done than her opponent would be able to do. I don't agree with all of her policies, and there are actions she has taken in the past that I've completely disagreed with or thought were ill-advised at best, but I definitely prefer to see her elected, and I understand completely how she and her team figured this path is the quickest and easiest way to victory. It's politics, and the only way to accomplish anything is to win and achieve power first.

I just hope her success (to whatever degree she has it in this election) won't be weaponized and used against the next group of women who don't meet the same mommy standard.
posted by sardonyx at 2:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Adams should delete his account after that.

God damn it, Scott Adams is making me like Bill Kristol, I HATE HIM FOR THIS.
posted by biogeo at 2:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [20 favorites]




I have always loathed Bill Kristol. Wanting to give him a high five is a terrible feeling.
posted by winna at 2:08 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


Those cheeseheads tho.
posted by dis_integration at 2:08 PM on July 28, 2016


Bruce Hornsby's "The Way It Is" as walkout music for Rep Gwen Moore
posted by zachlipton at 2:08 PM on July 28, 2016



I just hope her success (to whatever degree she has it in this election) won't be weaponized and used against the next group of women who don't meet the same mommy standard.


Listen I'm about Chelsea Clinton's age and I remember how they talked about her as mom in the White House - it was NOT as having any kind of high "mommy standard", like, at all. This is seriously not a concern.
posted by zutalors! at 2:08 PM on July 28, 2016 [19 favorites]


Representative Gwen Moore of Wisconsin now.

"Fat, pigs, dogs, disgusting. That is what Donald Trump thinks of women."

RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX TO FIGHT.
posted by winna at 2:09 PM on July 28, 2016 [18 favorites]


I thought she was referring to the cheeseheads for a moment with that dramatic "Fat pigs" opening.
posted by vverse23 at 2:09 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Oh damn this woman is awesome.
posted by phunniemee at 2:09 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Mic drop moment from Bill Kristol. If Kristol puts on shades, rides off in Biden's vette and immediately retires from public life all will be forgiven (but only if he does the third thing).
posted by Joey Michaels at 2:09 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


"Fat." "Pigs." "Dogs." "Disgusting."
"That is what Donald Trump thinks of women."

Well, this woman sure has my attention! High-impact opening.
posted by Superplin at 2:09 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


I just hope her success (to whatever degree she has it in this election) won't be weaponized and used against the next group of women who don't meet the same mommy standard

I worry about that too. There are plenty of remarkable people out there without background being parents. But hey, all we can do to fight gender and gender role discrimination is keep supporting good candidates from every walk of life and with every life experience.
posted by bearwife at 2:09 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


"Too many women have experienced sexual violence, and I am one of them. But we are not victims. WE ARE SURVIVORS."
posted by winna at 2:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [11 favorites]


YOU GO GWEN!
posted by biogeo at 2:10 PM on July 28, 2016


I did not know Wisconsin is "The Badger State"! I must move to there, now.
posted by gilrain at 2:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


I know I'm the eleven billionth person to say this, but the Metafilter community has meant a lot to me. With maybe one or two exceptions, I don't know anyone who is a particularly big Hillary supporter in real life, and virtually no one on, say, Facebook or Tumblr. I feel less alone in these threads, and far less afraid.

Also I have to order some Hillary pins tout de suite; I have some old McGovern/Shriver campaign pins from my mother, and I want to add to the collection :) (And buy a pin to give her.)
posted by kalimac at 2:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [26 favorites]


"My voice matters and I will not shut up. Our voices matter and we will not shut up."
posted by zachlipton at 2:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


"We've been told to sit down and shut up. Well, my voice matters, and I will not shut up."

- Rep. Gwen Moore
posted by Salieri at 2:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [24 favorites]


Burn down that stage, Ms Moore!
posted by jamaro at 2:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


"WE have been told to sit down and shut up. But I WILL NOT SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP."
posted by winna at 2:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Holy shit Gwen Moore is preaching like a boss.
posted by Superplin at 2:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Hell yes, Gwen Moore.
posted by rewil at 2:10 PM on July 28, 2016


"Our voices matter. And we will not. Shut. Up."
posted by biogeo at 2:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Yay Gwen Moore! Yay Cheese! Yay Wisconsin!
posted by airish at 2:10 PM on July 28, 2016


I'm all for Hillary, but for two seconds there I wished that Gwen Moore was running against Donald Trump. There wouldn't be anything left of him by the time all is said and done.
posted by vverse23 at 2:11 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


So timely. Trump told a woman NBC reporter to shut up yesterday.
posted by bearwife at 2:11 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


Run, you pigeons!

I know this thread is moving very fast so I want to take a moment to recognize you as the God-damned hero you are.
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 2:12 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


"Donald Trump has told us to sit down and be quiet. But Hillary has asked us to speak up and be heard."
posted by winna at 2:12 PM on July 28, 2016 [15 favorites]


Chants of "You Go Gwen"!
posted by airish at 2:13 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


DNC insiders detail months of escalating dysfunction: "As Wasserman Schultz faltered, the White House and Clinton campaign fretted but failed to act"

A metaphor for the Clinton campaign?
posted by Noisy Pink Bubbles at 2:13 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


I love you too! Wow!
posted by bearwife at 2:13 PM on July 28, 2016


Wow, Gwen Moore fanclub application submitted.
posted by LobsterMitten at 2:13 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


I'm going to eat cheese tonight in her honor.

okay that's just every night
posted by odinsdream at 2:13 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Okay those "News from our potential president" clips have gotten as nonsensical as Trump himself, and I just laughed my ass off out loud.

Bing bing!
posted by Salieri at 2:13 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Oh lord here's another of those horrible Donald Trump videos. But he didn't say anything, just gestured wildly?
posted by winna at 2:13 PM on July 28, 2016




A few years ago my car radio was on the fritz and could only pick up AM stations. It started a habit of listening to right-wing talk radio that I continue to this day.

You must be on some next-level blood pressure pills.
posted by tivalasvegas at 2:14 PM on July 28, 2016 [19 favorites]


Raumesh Akbari, Representative in Tennessee. She's only 32!
posted by winna at 2:15 PM on July 28, 2016


those "News from our potential president" clips

Is David Letterman working with them? That's the kind of gag he used to do all the time.
posted by dnash at 2:15 PM on July 28, 2016


I'm going to eat cheese tonight in her honor.


I'm gonna get a six pack of PBR because I'm broke and it's from Wisconsin originally and also feel like I should have something to celebrate with tonight.

(I am also having cheese.)
posted by MCMikeNamara at 2:15 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


But he didn't say anything, just gestured wildly?

I think you'll find that he said, "Bing, bing. Bong bong."
posted by biogeo at 2:15 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Raumesh Akbari, Representative in Tennessee. She's only 32!

Welp, shows that I'm an underachiever.
posted by biogeo at 2:16 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


er, she just said "transgendered" didn't she? :(
posted by zachlipton at 2:16 PM on July 28, 2016


@Pinboard: Scott Adams with a beautiful expression of engineer’s disease. Name me a topic I can’t master in an hour, says the cartoonist who can’t draw

That is Maciej Cegłowski who has been discussed here on Metafilter for his excellent talk on the morality of tech.
posted by phearlez at 2:16 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


"Y'all, these next few months won't be easy. But when has fighting for what's right been easy?"
posted by winna at 2:16 PM on July 28, 2016


Hello Nevada friend! <3
posted by stolyarova at 2:17 PM on July 28, 2016


Her y'alls are adorable (and awesome!)
posted by Wulfhere at 2:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


er, she just said "transgendered" didn't she? :(

Yes.
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 2:17 PM on July 28, 2016


There are so flags on that stage. Pfft.
posted by mochapickle at 2:17 PM on July 28, 2016


A metaphor for the Clinton campaign?

I imagine it was a toss up between getting more involved and getting roped into the mess but possibly helping, or keeping a semblance of healthy distance.
posted by JauntyFedora at 2:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Has every woman speaker been wearing a solid color red, white, or blue dress?
posted by LobsterMitten at 2:18 PM on July 28, 2016


(dress/outfit, that is)
posted by LobsterMitten at 2:18 PM on July 28, 2016


Ruben Kihuen, representative for the Nevada State Assembly.
posted by winna at 2:18 PM on July 28, 2016


The mommy letter lady wore black.
posted by mochapickle at 2:19 PM on July 28, 2016


Hearing a rumor that a bunch of Bernie delegates are planning a walk-out. They're apparently all wearing matching shirts.
posted by ArbitraryAndCapricious at 2:20 PM on July 28, 2016


Dang, this Ruben Kihuen has future potential. I like him a lot. And his Spanish is sexy.
posted by stolyarova at 2:20 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


"Donald Trump fears us. Worse, he incites that fear in others. He must be terrified of me. I'm a Mexican immigrant running for Congress."

I cannot transcribe the Spanish, but he's saying we're all dreamers.
posted by winna at 2:20 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


A one hour class to executive mastery sounds like something they'd offer at a Trump u session down at the airport Ramada.
posted by cmfletcher at 2:20 PM on July 28, 2016 [18 favorites]


Has every woman speaker been wearing a solid color red, white, or blue dress?
The one time I was on TV, I think I was told to wear solid colors, because patterns apparently don't look good on TV.
posted by ArbitraryAndCapricious at 2:21 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


This hilarious video proves beyond a doubt that Donald Trump is the new Archie Bunker

wasn't Archie Bunker supposed to be a caricature?
posted by numaner at 2:21 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


First Things: "Rotting-Flesh Reaganism"

First Things is supposed to bring the social teachings of the Church to bear on public discourse. Unfortunately, the author of this garbage thought "let me just copy-paste a Weekly Standard screed and interpolate a few "solidarity" references here and there." Sad.

This article, Catholics Must Resist Ethnonationalism is much better both as a reasoned argument and also as a reflection of Church teaching (though there are still certainly things I disagree with):
"It is a scandal for any Catholic to support such ideas and the political movements animated by them—not just because they violate Church teaching, but because they betray our history in this country. These Catholics would be exchanging the only social force that can provide a foundation for a healthy and humane solidarity—the Faith—for the emotional affirmation of a mythical cultural identity. They would become what they claim to hate: relativists who cling to a politically-useful identity rather than to enduring truth.

"The rightful place of the Catholic is always alongside the poor, the marginalized, the excluded—all the more so because Catholics have traditionally been overrepresented among the poor, the marginalized, and the excluded in American society. This means more than rejecting ethno-nationalist politics, however. It means giving special warrant to the witness and experience of those who continue to be where we used to be.
posted by tivalasvegas at 2:21 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


A lady just held up a tiny stuffed donkey with glittery led necklace and I NEED ONE.
posted by winna at 2:21 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


Has every woman speaker been wearing a solid color red, white, or blue dress?

No, definitely had someone in green earlier this week, and I think I've seen a couple purples. It's been pretty light on patterns, but that's probably because they tend to tell you not to wear patterned things on TV.
posted by phunniemee at 2:22 PM on July 28, 2016


Michael Nutter, Philly's former mayor.
posted by winna at 2:22 PM on July 28, 2016


I do not speak Spanish, but as someone who really loves languages, one of the things I've been enjoying so much about this convention is hearing Spanish spoken to me as a language of politics, not always with translation. I don't necessarily catch every nuance, but I catch the theme, and that's what matters.
posted by biogeo at 2:23 PM on July 28, 2016 [13 favorites]


Michael Nutter, who I assume is a descendant of Agnes.
posted by palindromic at 2:23 PM on July 28, 2016 [15 favorites]


"We need a president whose ideas and attention span is longer than 140 characters."
posted by winna at 2:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


I wanted to "like" that Archie Bunker video on Facebook as a slightly less agressive alternative to actually sharing it, so I searched the title and found that Norman Lear himself shared it.
posted by OnceUponATime at 2:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


Does anyone know what time Sarah McBride is supposed to be on?
posted by odinsdream at 2:25 PM on July 28, 2016


Hearing a rumor that a bunch of Bernie delegates are planning a walk-out. They're apparently all wearing matching shirts.

Good for them if they do, but they're just making themselves increasingly irrelevant. I was annoyed with them at first (when they were interrupting people with no regard to what they were talking about) and then glad to have them (when they got their game right and actually chanted appropriate things at appropriate people), but in general they seem to be more interested in the appearance of taking a stand than actually taking a stand and working towards the things they want. Like they use the language and tactics of protest, but they don't seem to actually be working towards something specific beyond "LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!"

Anyhow, good for them for walking out if that's what they think is important, but I think its time to leave that particular subgroup in history's dustbin and get to work with the vast majority of Bernie supporters who want to participate in good faith towards achieving their very laudable goals.
posted by Joey Michaels at 2:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [19 favorites]


"Young black men are precious to our country and its future." Such a simple statement, but not said nearly often enough.
posted by mochapickle at 2:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [34 favorites]


DNC insiders detail months of escalating dysfunction: "As Wasserman Schultz faltered, the White House and Clinton campaign fretted but failed to act"

A metaphor for the Clinton campaign?


More like "POLITICO reports Dems in disarray, film at 11"
posted by tivalasvegas at 2:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


"We can't turn the country over to a conman who thinks the presidency is an entry-level job on the Apprentice."
posted by winna at 2:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Trump is currently making efforts to hire more guest workers to staff his resort in Florida.
(sorry if this was already posted, been trying to keep up but the threads have been flying by!)
posted by Waiting for Pierce Inverarity at 2:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


huh so apparently Donald Trump is too white nationalist for Glenn fucking Beck... the mind boggles.

The thing is that Beck is, as far as I can tell, a legitimate lunatic. He honestly believes all of the insane and inane gibberish he spouts, unlike most of the trolls on the right, who mostly only fervently believe (like Trump) in "got mine" and "ew non-whites". Beck's worldview is utterly hateful, but it's a different worldview to Trump's, even though it lines up with Trump's about loving money and racism.
posted by howfar at 2:26 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Does anyone know what time Sarah McBride is supposed to be on?

C-SPAN suggests soon--I'd guess maybe 15 mins?
posted by phunniemee at 2:26 PM on July 28, 2016


"She's never let me down... and she won't let you down either."

Aww, I wanted a Rickroll.
posted by stolyarova at 2:26 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


I wonder why they are using two static podiums on each side instead of the centered robo-podium they've been using the last few days.
posted by arcolz at 2:26 PM on July 28, 2016


Michael Nutter, who I assume is a descendant of Agnes.

Nice
posted by Ragged Richard at 2:27 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


The one time I was on TV, I think I was told to wear solid colors, because patterns apparently don't look good on TV.

My wife has to be on television periodically. The main reason for the pattern thing isn't that they don't look good, as in a pattern looking good when televised versus in real life. The issue is that patterns - smaller patterns, really, not big blocks or blobs - are more likely to show compression artifacts. All your television is digital now and live stuff is compressed in a more slapdash manner* than your prerecorded & edited tv shows. Stuff filmed on a remote is even more likely to have it. So you end up with a tv appearance where nobody sees your face because the weird shimmer of your outfit is too distracting.

* Not really, but let's just call it that for simplifying values. Feel free to look up compression algo basics if you're curious.
posted by phearlez at 2:27 PM on July 28, 2016 [11 favorites]


Guys I agree completely that Glenn Beck is nutso and harmful, but he supports both gay marriage and marijuana legalization.
posted by stolyarova at 2:27 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Unfortunately I did not catch this gentleman's full name, but he said "(To Republicans) if your party is no longer coming to you, you should come to our party."
posted by winna at 2:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


In case anybody else was wondering why all the politicians have been carefully using "good-paying jobs", when "well-paying jobs" would seem to be more correct... apparently there are two theories to that phrase, making both correct in different senses.
posted by gilrain at 2:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


LOL who is this guy talking about Baby Jesus not staying throwed?
posted by stolyarova at 2:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


wasn't Archie Bunker supposed to be a caricature?
Well, my father didn't have a Nyawk accent and did have a job where he wore a tie, but Archie channeled him well enough that it was uncomfortable for me to watch (and I always put something else on the TV when I was in their house). In his latter days, he loved "Married With Children" reruns because he could really relate to Al Bundy (also the father on "That 70s Show").
posted by oneswellfoop at 2:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Feel free to look up compression algo basics if you're curious.

Congratulations you have finally found a thing that I can't be bothered to wiki.
posted by tivalasvegas at 2:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


I wonder why they are using two static podiums on each side instead of the centered robo-podium they've been using the last few days.

I dunno, but I'm expecting something exciting. It's Chekhov's Lectern.
posted by biogeo at 2:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


This dude just compared Hillary Clinton to Jesus. BOLD MOVE SIR
posted by winna at 2:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Oh we're at CHURCH now
posted by vverse23 at 2:29 PM on July 28, 2016


He's a Missouri rep, former mayor of Kansas City, Mo. Also a pastor.
posted by rewil at 2:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


OMG this guy!
posted by mothershock at 2:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Did he come back to the mic?
posted by PenDevil at 2:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


On the NPR politics podcast they were saying that they're completely redoing the stage for tonight, in part to signal that we're moving on from Bernie, Bill, Biden, and especially Obama to our new era of Hillary.

Which is really nice but also why things look weird if they look weird (I don't know)
posted by zutalors! at 2:29 PM on July 28, 2016


Did he just ... that was getting awesome and then he just left?
posted by penduluum at 2:29 PM on July 28, 2016


"She won't stay thrown!" Great energy.
posted by biogeo at 2:29 PM on July 28, 2016


whoever that guy is, he's invited to my next party
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 2:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Ah it was Missouri's Congressman Emanuel Cleaver.
posted by winna at 2:30 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


YOU BETTA LISTEN TO ME, SHE WON'T STAY THROWN!
posted by zebra at 2:30 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


WHOOP just got out of my meeting (just in time!!!)
posted by Annika Cicada at 2:30 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


There are like forty representatives and Sarah McBride up there now.
posted by winna at 2:30 PM on July 28, 2016


He came back to the mic TWICE. "SHE WON'T STAY THROWED!!"

"YOU BETTER LISTEN TO ME! SHE WON'T STAY THROWED!!!!"
posted by stolyarova at 2:30 PM on July 28, 2016 [20 favorites]


My manager and I carefully avoid talking about politics at work, but she used to live in Philly and got positively giddy when she ran into Nutter on a work trip, at Penn Station. I hope she's listening!
posted by peacheater at 2:30 PM on July 28, 2016


Did he come back to the mic?

Goddamn right he did, too bad he was amped up on Andrew Jackson.
posted by ActingTheGoat at 2:30 PM on July 28, 2016


Chants of "Sarah" from the audience for Sarah McBride
posted by LobsterMitten at 2:31 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Sean Patrick Maloney, NY Congressman.
posted by winna at 2:31 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


In other entertaining news, Colbert has set up a Ronald Reagan Selfie Station live feed at the DNC.
posted by stolyarova at 2:31 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Maloney just said "love you honey" to his husband and it makes me so happy.
posted by winna at 2:32 PM on July 28, 2016 [15 favorites]


Patrick Maloney: "It's a beautiful thing when your country catches up to you."
posted by biogeo at 2:33 PM on July 28, 2016 [14 favorites]


That "I love you, honey" is so powerful in its banal normalcy.
posted by palindromic at 2:33 PM on July 28, 2016 [13 favorites]


This is a beautiful speech.
posted by bearwife at 2:33 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


"It's a beautiful thing when your country catches up to you"

(read my comment in the other thread to see why)
posted by Annika Cicada at 2:33 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


"It's a beautiful thing when your country catches up to you. [...] It matters what happens in those beautiful buildings with the marble columns."
posted by winna at 2:33 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


"seen us" Loretta Lynch set a term for age, I'm tellin ya.
posted by Annika Cicada at 2:34 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


He's introducing Sarah McBride now. She will be the first trans person ever to address a national convention.
posted by winna at 2:34 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


Go Sarah!
posted by mochapickle at 2:34 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Shouts of "we love you Sarah" from the crowd.
posted by zachlipton at 2:35 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Guys I agree completely that Glenn Beck is nutso and harmful, but he supports both gay marriage and marijuana legalization.

But also he's a right-wing proto-Cruzite. I highly, highly doubt that Glenn Beck's position on gay marriage and pot would survive first contact with actual power, if his disgusting theocratic faction got its day in the sun.
posted by tivalasvegas at 2:35 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


He's getting teary introducing Sarah McBride.
posted by biogeo at 2:35 PM on July 28, 2016


History MADE.
posted by stolyarova at 2:35 PM on July 28, 2016


Holy shit
posted by Annika Cicada at 2:35 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


"My name is Sarah McBridge and I am a proud transgender American."
posted by winna at 2:36 PM on July 28, 2016 [13 favorites]


Wow. History being made. Again. Go Sarah.
posted by bearwife at 2:36 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


I don't give two shits about this white cisgay man, but Sarah McBride? Hearts.
posted by zebra at 2:36 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Standing O for Sarah McBride. Feels really good sometimes to know you're on the right side of history.
posted by penduluum at 2:36 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


"My name is Sarah McBride and I am a proud transgender American." She's flanked on each side by two gay congressmen.
posted by zachlipton at 2:36 PM on July 28, 2016 [11 favorites]


Favorite limit for the day already?! NOOOOOOO I FAVOR SO MANY THINGS
posted by palindromic at 2:36 PM on July 28, 2016 [11 favorites]


Crowd on its feet for her, long delay before she can even start speaking.
posted by LobsterMitten at 2:36 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


OMG. her story about her husband who passed away from cancer. heartbreaking.
posted by Annika Cicada at 2:37 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


"Tomorrow we can be respected and protected."
posted by zachlipton at 2:39 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Nice job, Sarah McBride!
posted by carmicha at 2:39 PM on July 28, 2016


I wish my hair was as pretty as hers. She has some amazing hair.
posted by winna at 2:39 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


*huge smiles*

Okay I'm gonna drive home from work now.
posted by Annika Cicada at 2:39 PM on July 28, 2016 [16 favorites]


That was awesome, and if this is the kind of stuff they're doing before prime time, I'm extremely glad I bought a case of black market favorites on the way into work today.
posted by tonycpsu at 2:39 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Great speech.
posted by biogeo at 2:39 PM on July 28, 2016


My God, has the choice between the two parties ever been this stark before?
posted by schadenfrau at 2:40 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Dolores Huerta!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted by winna at 2:40 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


LET ME REPEAT

DOLORES HUERTA
posted by winna at 2:40 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]




Holy fuck holy fuck holy fuck Sarah thank you thank you thank you
posted by odinsdream at 2:41 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


I have news for Donald Trump. We have been here all along. We have helped to build this country.
posted by bearwife at 2:41 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


Dolores Huerta bringing it.
posted by LobsterMitten at 2:41 PM on July 28, 2016


¡Basta con Donald Trump! ¡Abajo con Donald Trump!
posted by J.K. Seazer at 2:41 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


The contrast between Peter Thiel essentially throwing trans people under the bus last week and the DNC giving them a voice is pretty powerful.
posted by zachlipton at 2:41 PM on July 28, 2016 [20 favorites]


"Every Democrat needs to be an activist."
posted by winna at 2:43 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


"I have known Hillary Clinton for twenty-five years and I know her. And this is why I trust her."
posted by winna at 2:44 PM on July 28, 2016


Speaking of languages, I'll take "Abajo con Donald Trump" over "Bing bing bong bong" any day.
posted by biogeo at 2:45 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


wasn't Archie Bunker supposed to be a caricature?
Well, my father didn't have a Nyawk accent and did have a job where he wore a tie, but Archie channeled him well enough that it was uncomfortable for me to watch (and I always put something else on the TV when I was in their house). In his latter days, he loved "Married With Children" reruns because he could really relate to Al Bundy (also the father on "That 70s Show").


Same story for my dad, oneswellfoop. It has always totally amazed me that my father managed to interpret Archie as the hero of that show. This paragraph from the Wikipedia article on Archie Bunker describes Norman Lear's surprise at how Archie was received:

Norman Lear originally intended that Bunker be strongly disliked by audiences. Lear was shocked when Bunker quietly became a beloved figure to much of middle America. Lear thought that Bunker's opinions on race, sex, marriage, and religion were so wrong as to represent a parody of right wing bigotry.

And now, 45 years later, this describes exactly how I feel about our country's reaction to Trump.
posted by insoluble uncertainty at 2:45 PM on July 28, 2016 [14 favorites]


Nice!
posted by OmieWise at 2:45 PM on July 28, 2016


I wish my hair was as pretty as hers. She has some amazing hair.

That's a trans woman thing, we all get great hair. Think of it like a party favor.
posted by Annika Cicada at 2:45 PM on July 28, 2016 [66 favorites]


SHE IS WEARING MELANIA'S DRESS!
posted by mochapickle at 2:46 PM on July 28, 2016 [11 favorites]


Representative Joyce Beatty from Ohio.
posted by winna at 2:46 PM on July 28, 2016


My God, has the choice between the two parties ever been this stark before?

1940, maybe? Of course 1860 was a bit divisive as well...
posted by tivalasvegas at 2:46 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


omg, is she wearing Melania's dress? LOL
posted by acidic at 2:46 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


I have a date in a bit because I am terrible at scheduling and I can't turn off the DNC

What did I even do
posted by schadenfrau at 2:47 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Archie Bunker could actually feel love for others and do things for them, so he has Trump beat there
posted by Countess Elena at 2:47 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


Dolores Huerta was directly responsible for me and a friend starting a feminist group on campus my first year of college. I love her.
posted by lunasol at 2:47 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Also she is rocking Melania's dress, FWIW.
posted by mochapickle at 2:47 PM on July 28, 2016


I have a date in a bit because I am terrible at scheduling and I can't turn off the DNC

What did I even do


Make them watch it with you!
posted by winna at 2:47 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


I don't give two shits about this white cisgay man, but Sarah McBride? Hearts.

These people are all my people.
posted by bongo_x at 2:48 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


Oh, y'all, it just hit me how much I wish my mother could have lived to see this.
posted by allthinky at 2:48 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


What time should I prepare the kleenex?
posted by kanewai at 2:48 PM on July 28, 2016


1940, maybe? Of course 1860 was a bit divisive as well...

Maybe 1964?

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think 2016 might belong in that eschelon
posted by schadenfrau at 2:49 PM on July 28, 2016


OMG: Hillary's bio video tonight was made by Shonda Rhimes, eeeeeeeeeeeee.
posted by lunasol at 2:49 PM on July 28, 2016 [15 favorites]


winna, it's a first date, because I am a fool

although that would be an instant deal-maker
posted by schadenfrau at 2:49 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


"I am Congresswoman Joyce Beatty, and I approve this message!"
posted by Salieri at 2:49 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


"I'm Congresswoman Joyce Beatty, and I approved this message!"
posted by winna at 2:50 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


What's the timer for?
posted by stolyarova at 2:50 PM on July 28, 2016


There is now a countdown as Jump Jive an' Wail plays.
posted by winna at 2:50 PM on July 28, 2016


WHO TOLD THEM IT WAS OK TO PLAY NEW SWING AGAIN

WE ALL AGREED TO FORGET ABOUT THAT
posted by schadenfrau at 2:50 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


Who wore it better?
posted by zachlipton at 2:50 PM on July 28, 2016 [11 favorites]


Also she is rocking Melania's dress, FWIW.

lol seriously? I could see Trump becoming absolutely consumed with rage over that and barfing out Melania Wore It Better tweets through the end of the campaign
posted by prize bull octorok at 2:50 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


As a former low brass player I am always okay with new swing all the time anywhere.
posted by winna at 2:51 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


winna, it's a first date, because I am a fool

although that would be an instant deal-maker


Yeah this is a pretty solid litmus test I think
posted by tivalasvegas at 2:51 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Oh, that star blazer. Respect.
posted by rewil at 2:51 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


LOL, a delegate dabbed it during this musical interlude.
posted by arcolz at 2:51 PM on July 28, 2016


Chairdancing Ben Franklin!
posted by mochapickle at 2:51 PM on July 28, 2016


Roving camera, goofy dancing audience members on the jumbotron.
posted by LobsterMitten at 2:52 PM on July 28, 2016


OMG all the smiley dancing people warms my cold heart.
posted by winna at 2:52 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


I was going to get up and do something else during the musical interlude, but this is too happy!
posted by jaruwaan at 2:52 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Truly the 90s have returned. I am listening to Jump Jive & Wail.
posted by town of cats at 2:53 PM on July 28, 2016


Who wore it better?

Trolling Level: Grand Master
posted by prize bull octorok at 2:53 PM on July 28, 2016 [24 favorites]


A woman is a woman and a man ain't nothin' but a male
A woman is a woman and a man ain't nothin' but a male
One good thing about him
He knows how to jive and wail


Great song for this part of the convention!! /burgerburgerburgerburgerburgerburger
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 2:53 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Star blazer dude is my new TV best friend.
posted by winna at 2:53 PM on July 28, 2016


Also she is rocking Melania's dress, FWIW.

lol seriously? I could see Trump becoming absolutely consumed with rage over that and barfing out Melania Wore It Better tweets through the end of the campaign
posted by prize bull octorok at 2:50 PM on July 28 [1 favorite −] Favorite added! [!]


I'm laugh-crying at how much that's going to bother him

What if everyone just also low key trolls him for the next three months?
posted by schadenfrau at 2:53 PM on July 28, 2016 [27 favorites]


OMG: Hillary's bio video tonight was made by Shonda Rhimes, eeeeeeeeeeeee.

I love being pandered to! Somebody wants the votes of all the 30 something women!
posted by hydropsyche at 2:53 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


> Roving camera, goofy dancing audience members on the jumbotron.

Who was asking if this was like watching the superbowl for football fans?
posted by mrzarquon at 2:53 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Mark Dayton, Governor of Minnesota.
posted by winna at 2:54 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Gotta say, whoever has worked out the music programming for this convention has knocked it out of the park.
posted by vverse23 at 2:54 PM on July 28, 2016


"The Heat is On" is not a good Mark Dayton song.
posted by nathan_teske at 2:54 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


People do not seem to be listening to Minnesota Governor Mark Dayton.
posted by Spathe Cadet at 2:54 PM on July 28, 2016


"Donald Trump has spent his life serving himself."
posted by winna at 2:55 PM on July 28, 2016


Who wore it better?

Trolling Level: Grand Master


Yeah this person pretty much lives under a bridge and eats billy goats for dinner. Well done Congresswoman!
posted by tivalasvegas at 2:55 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


"We're gonna send him a message, aren't we?" *crickets*
posted by J.K. Seazer at 2:55 PM on July 28, 2016


Dayton's voice has a little (quieter, older) Kermit the Frog quality.
posted by LobsterMitten at 2:55 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


Trump will make at least two tweets and lose his shit over that dress. I love you Rep. Beatty
posted by cmfletcher at 2:56 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Every time a white guy comes on it feels like eating a Saltine after chowing down on a buffet of delicious doro wat, fajitas, aloo gobi, baklava, mojitos etc. etc. etc.
posted by stolyarova at 2:56 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


> What if everyone just also low key trolls him for the next three months?

I think that is Tim Kaine's Official Vice President Role this election.

He's going to go full on Troll Dad.
posted by mrzarquon at 2:56 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


You know, not every old white guy in the DNC has been a boring speaker (see: Bill Clinton), but the boring speakers have been disproportionately old white guys.
posted by biogeo at 2:56 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Dayton's voice has a little (quieter, older) Kermit the Frog quality.

I want to hear him sing "The Rainbow Connection"!
posted by J.K. Seazer at 2:56 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Trolling Trump in subtle but noticeable ways and keeping him frothing mad all election season long is actually a great strategy. His thin skin can't bear to feel insulted and the madder he gets the stupider he acts.
posted by downtohisturtles at 2:56 PM on July 28, 2016 [18 favorites]


People do not seem to be listening to Minnesota Governor Mark Dayton.

It's so thoughtful of the DNC to program bathroom break speakers every half hour or so.
posted by vverse23 at 2:57 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Tim Kaine: America's first Trollmaster General
posted by tonycpsu at 2:57 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Man I could devour some aloo gobi right now to the MAX.
posted by winna at 2:57 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


I could see Trump becoming absolutely consumed with rage over that and barfing out Melania Wore It Better tweets

Or just count the money he made from selling one.
posted by oneswellfoop at 2:57 PM on July 28, 2016


Garcetti is very traditional-president-shaped.
posted by stolyarova at 2:57 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


LA's mayor, Eric Garcetti.
posted by winna at 2:57 PM on July 28, 2016


but the boring speakers have been disproportionately old white guys.

And they're speaking directly to someone. There's a lot of people out there.
posted by bongo_x at 2:57 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Gotta say, whoever has worked out the music programming for this convention has knocked it out of the park.

Turns out it's easy to get good music when recording artists don't hate your organization.
posted by NoxAeternum at 2:58 PM on July 28, 2016 [31 favorites]


"America's cities don't have time for theatrics. America's cities have urgent problems to solve."
posted by winna at 2:58 PM on July 28, 2016


BTW Mark Dayton is another example of an actual billionaire going after "billionaire" Donald Trump. Dayton is worth around $1.5 billion
posted by nathan_teske at 2:58 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]




Got home for my Latino, Italian, Jewish, Spanish speaking mayor! Eric!
posted by Sophie1 at 2:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Fifty-two countries have had a female head of state already

Tiny quibble: Heads of state are generally meaningless. Heads of government matter. Queen Elizabeth is a head of state; Theresa May is a head of government. The U.S. invests both roles in one executive, but for comparison purposes the difference is relevant.

posted by psoas at 2:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


"America doesn't need a political pyromaniac for president."

Damn, that's a nice phrase.
posted by stolyarova at 2:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [13 favorites]


Garcetti is talking about infrastructure improvements! He talked about how they raised the minimum wage, getting guns off the streets, making community college free.

"We didn't do any of this by fighting a common enemy. We found a common purpose."
posted by winna at 3:00 PM on July 28, 2016 [18 favorites]


I love anyone who will talk about the urgent need for infrastructure improvement.
posted by winna at 3:00 PM on July 28, 2016 [18 favorites]


"I'm just your average Mexican-American Jewish Italian"
posted by zachlipton at 3:01 PM on July 28, 2016 [17 favorites]


"I'm just your average Mexican-American-Jewish-Italian." <3
posted by stolyarova at 3:01 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Dayton, as the one of the heirs of the founder of Target, is one of those people who knows how bona fide rich businesspeople behave. (I don't think he's personally a billionaire -- the money's in a bunch of Dayton Family trusts and foundations.)

Rev William Barber is up later on: president of the NC NAACP, leader of Moral Mondays, currently at the forefront of the campaign to repeal HB2.
posted by holgate at 3:01 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


"I'm just your regular Mexican-American Jewish Italian."

HA!
posted by winna at 3:01 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


"I'm just your average Mexican-American-Jewish-Italian."
posted by zombieflanders at 3:01 PM on July 28, 2016


"Im just your average mexican american jewish italian"
posted by mrzarquon at 3:01 PM on July 28, 2016


jinx!
posted by stolyarova at 3:01 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


The dress thing slays me! Completely awesome!
posted by OmieWise at 3:01 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Got home for my Latino, Italian, Jewish, Spanish speaking mayor
Yer a wizard Harry.
posted by PenDevil at 3:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


What if everyone just also low key trolls him for the next three months?

-Hillary consistently pronounces first name as "Denald"
-Tim Kaine continues doing impressions in increasingly Daffy-like voice
-Backup Air Force One parked in Trump 757's usual spot
-Democrats win in massive landslide
posted by theodolite at 3:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [58 favorites]


this guy is an international buffet disguised as a saltine
posted by stolyarova at 3:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


"When we mock [people], we mock our nation."
posted by winna at 3:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Also, as a fellow Jewish Italian-American, I suggest referring to us as "Pizza Bagels."
posted by zombieflanders at 3:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [45 favorites]


I love anyone who will talk about the urgent need for infrastructure improvement.

Yeah, I haven't heard the chanting for that. Creating jobs fixing all the shit that's falling down around us.
posted by bongo_x at 3:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]




Hillary consistently pronounces first name as "Denald"

Can you imagine how 4chan would melt down if Trump said "It's actually 'Donald'"?
posted by stolyarova at 3:03 PM on July 28, 2016


Katie McGinty, Chief of Staff to the Governor of Pennsylvania.
posted by winna at 3:04 PM on July 28, 2016


Dayton's politics in Minnesota have generally been excellent, but I find it hard to reconcile his very public backing of the public funding for the Vikings stadium. Picture tells it all:Vikings owner Wario and duped Gov Dayton breaking ground. God damnit when will we figure out that this shit is a con.
posted by mcstayinskool at 3:04 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


The thing about staging a citizens' arrest during the speech is that it's more likely to work out for you if you don't announce it on Twitter.

(I don't think they did announce it on Twitter, but they're not organizing it in a very stealth way.)
posted by ArbitraryAndCapricious at 3:04 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


Smart of them to announce it in advance.
posted by stolyarova at 3:04 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


the boring speakers have been disproportionately old white guys

On a serious note, I don't think this is a coincidence. Women and minorities generally have to be more outstanding to reach the same level of achievement as white men. So it's not surprising that the weakest women and minority speakers are going to be stronger than the weakest white men speakers, just by selection bias.
posted by biogeo at 3:04 PM on July 28, 2016 [18 favorites]


They did a serious work of laying on the bronzer for Ms McGinty.
posted by winna at 3:05 PM on July 28, 2016




Got some Hillary swag on my Obama chitenje, sorry everyone who comes to my living room through 2017.

It's the rainbow pantsuit sticker, but the glare makes it immune to good cell phone photography.
posted by palindromic at 3:05 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Pointing out in the course of his speech that FDR won a war as a commander in chief who couldn't walk -- love it, hits that disability note and the "don't freak out about having a woman in the commander role" note too.
posted by LobsterMitten at 3:05 PM on July 28, 2016 [16 favorites]



DNC Action Committee says they will try to stage a citizen's arrest on Clinton during speech tonight #DemsInPhilly


This is why people don't support the Left.
posted by bongo_x at 3:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [19 favorites]


The infrastructure page on hillaryclinton.com is 404's right now, but look at this adorable gif they use.
posted by mrzarquon at 3:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


The thing about a citizens arrest is it probably works better on people without secret service protection
posted by Ray Walston, Luck Dragon at 3:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [54 favorites]


DNC Action Committee says they will try to stage a citizen's arrest on Clinton during speech tonight #DemsInPhilly

Well, citizens will probably be arrested if they do that, yes.
posted by zachlipton at 3:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [51 favorites]


The thing about staging a citizens' arrest during the speech is that it's more likely to work out for you if you don't announce it on Twitter.

The thing about staging a citizens' arrest during the speech is that it's dumb.

not that it helps to announce it on twitter, but
posted by cjelli at 3:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


DNC Action Committee says they will try to stage a citizen's arrest on Clinton during speech tonight #DemsInPhilly

Leaked footage from tonight.
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 3:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


McGinty is not grabbing me. She sounds artificial and I'm not sure why.
posted by winna at 3:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


DNC Action Committee says they will try to stage a citizen's arrest on Clinton during speech tonight #DemsInPhilly

Yeah, ever since the convention started there was a small part of me concerned about a "Imma let you finish, but Bernie Sanders ran one of the best campaigns of all time!" moment.
posted by FJT at 3:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


My favorite/least favorite thing about people with no understanding of oppression or structural power trying to do analysis of intersectionality is how utterly incapable they are of making even a little sense.

That's a rather uncharitable reading of someone from the other side trying to understand what's going wrong with their side. And who threw in several choice critiques of Reagan and of Cruz, too.
posted by Apocryphon at 3:07 PM on July 28, 2016


DNC Action Committee says they will try to stage a citizen's arrest on Clinton during speech tonight #DemsInPhilly

This is why people don't support the Left.


I don't think these people are actually the Left.
posted by biogeo at 3:08 PM on July 28, 2016 [20 favorites]


Kate McGinty's speech/delivery is not great. How's she doing in PA, PA-mefites?
posted by TwoStride at 3:08 PM on July 28, 2016


I'm really not a fan of this use of food as a metaphor for nationalities. It's a common and irritating cliche on dating websites, and I'd prefer not to see it here.
posted by J.K. Seazer at 3:08 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


She reminds me of Kevin McDonald from Kids in the Hall for reasons I cannot explain even to myself.
posted by palindromic at 3:08 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


She sounds artificial and I'm not sure why.

Well the fact that she said "livin' large" and you could hear the air quotes might be part of it.
posted by winna at 3:08 PM on July 28, 2016


DNC Action Committee says they will try to stage a citizen's arrest on Clinton during speech tonight #DemsInPhilly

You mean they'll get quietly redirected by the Secret Service from like 100 yards away.
posted by yasaman at 3:09 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


I don't know what McGinty is talking about. This feels like a mashup of political lines with no obvious application.
posted by bearwife at 3:09 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


McGinty's presentation is reminiscent of late-night informercials. And it's a shame -- her message is OK but gets lost in the delivery.
posted by mochapickle at 3:09 PM on July 28, 2016


The DNC Action Committee advertises a "non-toxic revolution." I thought that at first they were really missing the point, but they were actually only talking about things like non-toxic underarm deodorant.
posted by kanewai at 3:09 PM on July 28, 2016


I'm sure after the last few days the Clinton people expect some asshole to try to interrupt the speech and they're ready. No one's getting near that stage.
posted by downtohisturtles at 3:09 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


TAMMY! Sexy lady! Who's that lady!
posted by mochapickle at 3:10 PM on July 28, 2016


Here comes Duckworth!!
posted by bearwife at 3:10 PM on July 28, 2016


Tammy Duckworth walks out to Sexy Lady? Really?
posted by Sophie1 at 3:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


I'm just hungry. ;_;
posted by stolyarova at 3:10 PM on July 28, 2016


What if everyone just also low key trolls him

Oh this is way better than doing work.

-make a human wall of Mexicans around Trump's house
-media stops going to any of his events for three whole days and never tells him why
-mass campaign to knit child-size mittens and mail them to Trump HQ
posted by tivalasvegas at 3:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [47 favorites]


Congresswoman Tammy Duckworth of Illinois came on stage to someone crooing Sexy Lady?!
posted by winna at 3:10 PM on July 28, 2016


Bad female speakers: shattering the glass floor! Inspirational.
posted by biogeo at 3:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Scott Adams on twitter: If experience is necessary for being president, name a political topic I can't master in one hour under the tutelage of top experts.

me: trolling
posted by pyramid termite at 3:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


"Who's that lady? Sexy lady!"

Tammy Duckworth.
posted by jaruwaan at 3:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


I don't think these people are actually the Left.

It's more the love of self serving action I'm talking about, I have never seen that win anyone over.
posted by bongo_x at 3:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


After Lying Low, Deep-Pocketed Clinton Donors Return to the Fore slNYT

For many Clinton donors, particularly those from the financial sector, the convention is a time to shed what one called the “hypersensitivity” that had previously surrounded their appearance at Mrs. Clinton’s fund-raisers or at her political events, during a period when Mr. Sanders repeatedly attacked Mrs. Clinton’s connections to Wall Street and her six-figure speaking fees from financial institutions.

“I think we’re past that,” said Alan Patricof, a longtime donor to Mrs. Clinton, when asked about the need to lie low during the primaries.
posted by lalochezia at 3:11 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]




"Who's That Lady", Isley Brothers.

 
posted by Herodios at 3:12 PM on July 28, 2016


Tammy Duckworth is awesome.
posted by homunculus at 3:12 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


The Dem Senate primary for PA was a bit of an arm-twisting exercise by the old-school party machine and national Dem leadership, all of whom preferred McGinty to face off against Toomey over Joe Sestak, who'd lost the 2010 contest. We'll see how that turns out.
posted by holgate at 3:12 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


>Scott Adams on twitter: If experience is necessary for being president, name a political topic I can't master in one hour under the tutelage of top experts.

I'm sure if he needs his appendix out he will decline to employ a surgeon, preferring instead to have it done by somebody who's spent an hour being tutored by top experts.
posted by Sing Or Swim at 3:13 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


If that kind of 'citizens arrest' is humanly possible, I'll do it the next time Treasonous Trump has a campaign appearance in my area.
posted by oneswellfoop at 3:13 PM on July 28, 2016


"By the way, Donald Trump - I didn't put my life on the line for our democracy so you could invite Russia to interfere with it."
posted by stolyarova at 3:13 PM on July 28, 2016 [42 favorites]


"I didn't put my life on the line to defend our democracy, so you could invite Russia to interfere with it." Awesome.
posted by biogeo at 3:13 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


Tammy Duckworth: "I didn't put my life on the life to defend my democracy so you could invite Russia to interfere with it.
posted by zachlipton at 3:13 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


Ugh I hate when people say their most important job was being a mom.
posted by winna at 3:13 PM on July 28, 2016 [13 favorites]


I mean, being a mom is important! don't get me wrong. But it sounds so fake humble when people say it, and it tends to make childless women feel like trash.
posted by winna at 3:14 PM on July 28, 2016 [17 favorites]


Ugh I hate when people say their most important job was being a mom.

Enh, I'm okay with it -- that's her perspective. I get ruffled when people say that it's any woman's most important job.
posted by mochapickle at 3:15 PM on July 28, 2016 [15 favorites]


I wonder if her line about "standing up" was a crack at this shameful attack from the NRSC.
posted by zombieflanders at 3:16 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Kate McGinty's speech/delivery is not great. How's she doing in PA, PA-mefites?

It's been polling as a close race; it could go either way at this point, which isn't great news to her opponent, incumbent Sen. Pat Toomey, but obviously isn't great for McGinty, either.
posted by cjelli at 3:16 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


I'd really feel I was insulting my awesome mom, who was the most brilliant doctor I've ever met, if I said that her most important job was raising me.
posted by bearwife at 3:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Right now there was a video featuring many adorable children!
posted by winna at 3:18 PM on July 28, 2016


I wonder if her line about "standing up" was a crack at this shameful attack from the NRSC.

She used that line in a great ad, "so and so says I don't stand up to the vets" and then, slow, careful zoom out, Tammy Duckworth in a wheel chair with all her medals.
posted by dis_integration at 3:18 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Has there ever been a male politician who said being a dad was his most important job?
posted by tivalasvegas at 3:19 PM on July 28, 2016 [20 favorites]


They're now running a feed of twitter hashtags for the convention. I am praying that someone is actually reviewing them before they hit the jumbotron.
posted by winna at 3:19 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Carole KING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted by winna at 3:19 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Has there ever been a male politician who said being a dad was his most important job?

Tim Kaine?

(sorry couldn't help myself)
posted by maggiemaggie at 3:20 PM on July 28, 2016 [23 favorites]


There is no evidence Trump is stealing votes Clinton is counting on. To the extent he is pitching to "liberals," that means Sanders supporters, and the overwhelming majority of them were ready to vote for Clinton before this convention.
posted by bearwife at 3:20 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


She used that line in a great ad, "so and so says I don't stand up tot he vets" and then, slow, careful zoom out, Tammy Duckworth in a wheel chair with all her medals.

I don't think that was a commercial? If it was, they stole it from me (which is fine I guess)
posted by tivalasvegas at 3:20 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


"My most important job was dialing for dollars all day so I could afford to run for office" would be more realistic though.
posted by dis_integration at 3:20 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


I finally donated today. And she has TOTES so of course I had to do some shopping as well. And some nice T-shirts...
posted by antinomia at 3:21 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


> dad was his most important job

I recall Bill Clinton actually saying something like that in his speech "my most important phase of my life was over, as we saw Chelsea off to college" or something like that.
posted by mrzarquon at 3:21 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


I don't think that was a commercial? If it was, they stole it from me (which is fine I guess)

I swear I saw this on TV.
posted by dis_integration at 3:21 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


I mean it was right after the muslims in new jersey celebrating but...
posted by dis_integration at 3:23 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]




Singing "You've got a friend, and Bernie too and all of us together"
posted by zachlipton at 3:23 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]




Hah! Finally saw a sign that says "Citizen Kaine". Inevitable.
 
posted by Herodios at 3:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [14 favorites]


Hillary Clinton needs to wake up. Trump is stealing the voters she takes for granted

I don't think the author of that has actually been watching the DNC.
posted by biogeo at 3:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


There is no evidence Trump is stealing votes Clinton is counting on. To the extent he is pitching to "liberals," that means Sanders supporters, and the overwhelming majority of them were ready to vote for Clinton before this convention.

OTOH I think most Sanders supporters are happy to be the windmill Don tilts at. Give it up dude we're social democrats not fascists. Or just waste your time pandering to us. Whatever.
posted by tivalasvegas at 3:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


Carol King's job was to make sure Tim Kaine wasn't the dorkiest person at the convention.
posted by bongo_x at 3:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


I don't think these people are actually the Left.

Eh, being on the left is not an effective vaccine against being a doofus.
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 3:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [14 favorites]


It feels like we're stalling a lot here.
posted by zachlipton at 3:25 PM on July 28, 2016


Kansas baby!
posted by PenDevil at 3:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Dads don't have to defend their fatherhood as being something of importance. Women who are mothers often discover their motherhood used to discredit their competence and intelligence—often even as those same people laud motherhood with empty, condescending, feel-good platitudes. I'm very glad to see motherhood and grandmotherhood not being erased here—not apologized for, not explained away or rationalized—just mentioned/celebrated as a fact of her life, and many people's lives. Not a liability to overcome as a world leader.
posted by mothershock at 3:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [23 favorites]


I don't think that was a commercial? If it was, they stole it from me (which is fine I guess)

I swear I saw this on TV.


Quick: is it the "the Berenstein Bears," or is it "the Berenstain Bears"? There's a slight chance you might have hopped over into the other timeline.
posted by cjelli at 3:26 PM on July 28, 2016 [16 favorites]


We're a party that welcomes the dorks, the doofuses, the nerds, and the geeks!
posted by palindromic at 3:26 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


James Clyburn, Congressman from South Carolina.
posted by winna at 3:26 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


I just showed my daughters the Fight Song and the glass-breaking video and I started crying again. (They are making fun of me, and god willing they'll never really get it, either.) I should just do myself a favor and move the box of tissues in front of the TV for the night, huh?
posted by Andrhia at 3:27 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


I will be seeing this fine fellow on Friday in Detroit.
posted by palindromic at 3:28 PM on July 28, 2016


He sounds like my daddy and I want to hug him.
posted by winna at 3:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


James Clyburn, Congressman from South Carolina.

Great piano player, too.

Wait . . .
 
posted by Herodios at 3:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


DNC Action Committee says they will try to stage a citizen's arrest on Clinton during speech tonight

“Leeeeeeeeeeerooooy Jenkinnnnns!”
posted by happyroach at 3:30 PM on July 28, 2016 [47 favorites]


James Clyburn, Congressman from South Carolina.

winna, thank you for all the speaker IDs. Much appreciated.
posted by cjelli at 3:30 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


DNC Action Committee says they will try to stage a citizen's arrest on Clinton during speech tonight #DemsInPhilly

This is why people don't support the Left.

I don't think these people are actually the Left.


So, I'm not going to pretend to be the Movement Police, and I'm not on the ground, but the group I work for (a large progressive org) has been communicating closely with a lot of left-leaning groups doing activism around the conventions, especially groups led by people of color, and this is literally the first time I've heard of DNC Action. Make of that what you will.
posted by lunasol at 3:30 PM on July 28, 2016 [17 favorites]


It is so fascinating to me that as memories of Vietnam fade LBJ is being rehabilitated.
posted by winna at 3:30 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Has there ever been a male politician who said being a dad was his most important job?
I could swear that JFK said something to the effect of "it doesn't matter what you've achieved in life, if you fail at being a father, you're a failure." Which is a little poignant, since he wasn't around to be a father for most of his kids' childhoods.
posted by ArbitraryAndCapricious at 3:31 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


winna, thank you for all the speaker IDs. Much appreciated.

You're welcome! I wish I'd thought to do it all four nights. Hopefully it will help people reading later.
posted by winna at 3:31 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Has there ever been a male politician who said being a dad was his most important job?

Marco Rubio said his most important job is father and husband. And George W. Bush said, “My most important job is father.”
posted by mbrubeck at 3:32 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Historical montage of women legislators kicking ass.
posted by LobsterMitten at 3:33 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


I looked away for a second. Did Mikulski toot a harmonica in that clip?
 
posted by Herodios at 3:33 PM on July 28, 2016


> Hopefully it will help people reading later.

I'd love it if livestreams could be immediately linked to with timecodes, just to make "oh whats that comment about" linking be so much easier.
posted by mrzarquon at 3:33 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


LBJ is being rehabilitated

LBJ was a low-down dirty rotten absolutely amazing transformative scoundrel who did so much good-bad.
posted by dis_integration at 3:33 PM on July 28, 2016 [44 favorites]


There's a video now and Senator Barbara Mikulski was talking about "putting on her lipstick and getting to work" and she made the MOST ADORABLE pantomime of lipstick application.
posted by winna at 3:33 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


It's really great to hear the crowd cheer as each of these women Senators comes up on screen.
posted by Salieri at 3:35 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Has there ever been a male politician who said being a dad was his most important job?

I could swear that JFK said something to the effect of "it doesn't matter what you've achieved in life, if you fail at being a father, you're a failure." Which is a little poignant, since he wasn't around to be a father for most of his kids' childhoods.


Pretty sure that's Jackie: “If you bungle raising your children, I don't think whatever else you do matters very much”
posted by sapere aude at 3:35 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


They're all here!!!
posted by stolyarova at 3:35 PM on July 28, 2016


Fuck yeah, Babs in the house!
posted by zombieflanders at 3:36 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


And Senator Mikulski of Maryland and the other women who are senators are on stage!
posted by winna at 3:36 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Her puns are adorkable.
posted by stolyarova at 3:36 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


My mom is gonna love that 4'11" joke.
posted by zombieflanders at 3:37 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Yes, we can! (I'm re-watching the video for it from 2008, and damn Obama looked young).
posted by drezdn at 3:37 PM on July 28, 2016


Apparently Diane Feinstein (encryption sellout that she is) isn't there due to an unspecified family health issue.
posted by zachlipton at 3:37 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


My god, those senators so clearly love Mikulski.
posted by mcduff at 3:38 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Pretty sure that's Jackie: “If you bungle raising your children, I don't think whatever else you do matters very much”
Hah! Ok, that's a point for the other side of the argument, then.
posted by ArbitraryAndCapricious at 3:38 PM on July 28, 2016


I can't wait until I can't recognize most of the women Senators .
posted by MCMikeNamara at 3:38 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


"I was the first Democratic woman elected in her own right to the Senate in 1987. The history of women is that short, it's about 4 foot 11."
posted by Sophie1 at 3:38 PM on July 28, 2016 [18 favorites]


Our shoulders are square! We're ready to fight!
posted by Salieri at 3:38 PM on July 28, 2016


"She needs help across the generations. So I have just one question: Are you with us?"

DEAFENING ROAR
posted by winna at 3:38 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


I don't wear lipstick and my shoes are made of like canvas? but I am still going to volunteer.
posted by palindromic at 3:38 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


My Senator! Patty Murray!!
posted by bearwife at 3:39 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Patty Murray! Finally someone from the Evergreen State.
posted by dw at 3:39 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


So, I'm not going to pretend to be the Movement Police, and I'm not on the ground, but the group I work for (a large progressive org) has been communicating closely with a lot of left-leaning groups doing activism around the conventions, especially groups led by people of color, and this is literally the first time I've heard of DNC Action. Make of that what you will.
posted by lunasol at 3:30 PM on July 28 [2 favorites +] [!]


I feel like this is starting to veer into conspiracy theory territory. DNC Action Committee is strongly associated with Jill Stein, BLM and Occupy. It's not some kind of shady false-flag org.
posted by Tyrant King Porn Dragon at 3:39 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Patty Murray, Senator from Washington.
posted by winna at 3:40 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


I am a fan of the future, and cyber is the future

My modest contribution.
posted by kirkaracha at 3:40 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


> It's not some kind of shady false-flag org.

Look! They have a newspaper!
posted by mrzarquon at 3:41 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


Maria Cantwell, Washington Senator.
posted by winna at 3:42 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


And now Maria Cantwell! Washington has had two women senators for 16 years now.
posted by dw at 3:42 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


I think this is why they have the two podiums this time. Would be weird if they all lined up and shared the mic.
posted by mochapickle at 3:42 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Amy Klobuchar, Minnesota Senator.
posted by stolyarova at 3:42 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Amy Klobuchar, Senator from Minnesota.
posted by winna at 3:43 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


sorry winna! I'll let you do it :)
posted by stolyarova at 3:43 PM on July 28, 2016


Tyrant King Porn Dragon: DNC Action Committee is strongly associated with Jill Stein, BLM and Occupy. It's not some kind of shady false-flag org.

Uh, their posts only go back to 7/16?
posted by bluecore at 3:44 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


I had to leave for a bit so I missed a good hour of drinking convention but I'm ready now.
posted by Justinian at 3:44 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Claire McCaskill, Senator from Missouri.
posted by winna at 3:44 PM on July 28, 2016


I've lived elsewhere most of my life. These days I'm next door in South Dakota.

But I am Minnesotan by birth, and I LOVE Amy Klobuchar.
posted by yesster at 3:45 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Claire McCaskill, Senator from Missouri.

And famous shotgunner of beers.
posted by zombieflanders at 3:45 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


Debbie Stabenow, Michigan Senator was up earlier.

As a non-voting 17 year old, I campaigned for a non-partisan but Green-adjacent peace movement in metro Detroit during the 2000 election. Debbie Stabenow's write-up in our voter guide was the first budge toward supporting Democrats I ever felt - her positions were almost precisely in line with what I would have wanted from a Senator. I have supported the Dems in every election since, and I have a real soft spot for her.
posted by palindromic at 3:45 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


McCaskill's statements about how kind and concerned Hillary was when she was ill are really moving. "She has the heart to lead this country."
posted by bearwife at 3:45 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Jeanne Shaheen, Senator from New Hampshire.
posted by winna at 3:45 PM on July 28, 2016


They're speaking so quickly it's hard to get the link and the spelling before the next is on!
posted by winna at 3:46 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


(you're doing great winna!)
posted by yesster at 3:46 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Kirsten Gillibrand, Senator from New York.
posted by winna at 3:47 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


My bae Liz is coming up <3
posted by stolyarova at 3:47 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


They listed Tammy Baldwin as a senator from Missouri. Oops.
posted by dw at 3:47 PM on July 28, 2016


Tammy Baldwin, Senator from Wisconsin.
posted by winna at 3:48 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


Mazie Hirono, Senator from Hawai'i.
posted by winna at 3:49 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Dissent: Trumpism: The Fight Ahead, Jedediah Purdy
HiLo Brow: Daddy Gets Home, Adam McGovern
When a father leaves, we mourn idyllically for him, and blame the mother who was left behind to actually raise is. Americans resent the tradeoffs and businesslike briskness of Hilary Clinton — she wants our whole village to participate in civic life. (Ironically, she’s the much realer corporate-exec type in this race, while trying to project a family-woman persona, and Trump is a serially bankrupt and bailed-out grifter whose only success seems to have been as a parent.) In a stereotypically standard household, the father steps in to administer discipline and bring home treats; Trump’s acceptance speech, reeling between promises of apparently-socialized workplace childcare and vows of totalitarian race-war, was the classic manifesto of the father, holding attention with random wrath and lavish dispensations, neither of which you can know when to expect.
Vox Peter Thiel's argument for Donald Trump makes no sense. Here's what I think is going on., Timothy B. Lee
Jacobin: Tim Kaine, and Other Faith-Based Politics., Corey Robin - "It’s not just that Clinton’s vice presidential pick is terrible, it’s being sold as a triumph"
Monitoring the upcoming election via electoral votes
posted by the man of twists and turns at 3:49 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Donald Trump is in Iowa telling an audience how he wanted to hit people speaking at the DNC.
I am not making this up.
In particular he wanted to beat up a "little guy"
posted by Senor Cardgage at 3:49 PM on July 28, 2016 [18 favorites]


News flash from the right regarding Russians and the email hack (via my personal right-wing troll):

1) the emails were deleted. 2) The email server was destroyed. NO ONE can hack into a server that no longer exists. Ay yi yi. lol. It's so ridiculous people are not paying attention and thinking for themselves.

So now we know how the right will respond to potential Russian involvement: the hack never happened.
posted by kanewai at 3:50 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


NC has no women on stage at this time :(

Elizabeth Dole (R) (yes, Bob's wife) was our Senator 2002 to 2008 until Kay Hagen (D) replaced her during the great Obama sweep. Sadly Hagen lost her seat to a Republican man, Thom Tillis. So now we are back to two men, both Republicans. Richard Burr is up for re-election and his Democratic opponent is a woman, Deborah Ross. Lets hope that Clinton pulls off another great sweep. It could happen!
posted by Secret Life of Gravy at 3:50 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Huuuuuge cheers for Warren.

Big cheers! The hugest!
posted by Salieri at 3:50 PM on July 28, 2016


Elizabeth Warren, Senator from awesome (Massachusetts).
posted by winna at 3:50 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


Yes, let us find a way to sneak in all the boss speakers from the previous days, starting with Senator Professor Warren.
posted by palindromic at 3:51 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Tammy Duckworth was wearing a t-shirt earlier today that said "you can pee next to me," apparently in solidarity with those fighting the NC law
posted by zachlipton at 3:51 PM on July 28, 2016 [28 favorites]


Barbara Boxer, Senator from California.
posted by winna at 3:51 PM on July 28, 2016


DNC Action Committee is strongly associated with Jill Stein, BLM and Occupy. It's not some kind of shady false-flag org.

I don't think it's a whole false flag thing, just a couple people who know how to register a domain name.

Among their purported allies:
Occupy Wall St.

Jill Stein and The Green Party

Bernie Sanders for President 2016

Black Lives Matter
Occupy and BLM have no official spokesperson (nor, as far as I'm aware, any paid staff even).

Bernie Sanders for President 2016 is not involved in protests at the DNC nuff said

Dunno why the Green Party would be sponsoring protests at some other political party's convention.

I call shenanigans/malarkey/the typical four lefties that got together, came up with a name and slapped a website up on The Internet.
posted by tivalasvegas at 3:52 PM on July 28, 2016 [11 favorites]


I realize that this is a necessary part of the convention, but the hagiography is still a bit much.
posted by kanewai at 3:52 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Trump: “I wanted to hit a couple speakers so hard. I would've hit this little guy so hard … he’d never recover." --@christinawilkie
posted by zachlipton at 3:53 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Where's Feinstein?
posted by Sophie1 at 3:53 PM on July 28, 2016


It's our engagement party, let us enjoy it <3
posted by stolyarova at 3:53 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Senor Cardgage: "Donald Trump is in Iowa telling an audience how he wanted to hit people speaking at the DNC.
I am not making this up.
In particular he wanted to beat up a "little guy"
"

Whaaaaaaaaat.
posted by boo_radley at 3:53 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Also that citizen's arrest thing sounds like when Homer fell in with aging hippies Seth and Munchie and tried to recreate the merry prankster thing all over Springfield.

"HEAR YE! HEAR YE!"
(Kazoos)
"I HEREBY DOTHLY DO DECLARE AS GALACTIC MAGISTRATE THAT *YOU* MADAME ARE IN BREACH OF THE CODE OF JUST BEHAVIOR AND WILL NOW BE PLACED—"
(Tackled by Secret Service)
posted by Senor Cardgage at 3:53 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


They're all now holding hands and waving! It's so cute!
posted by winna at 3:54 PM on July 28, 2016


Where's a good livestream? I've been watching on Twitch, and the gamergate-style sexism in the comments is starting to get to me.
posted by ErisLordFreedom at 3:54 PM on July 28, 2016


Damon Young: The Democrats are led by fucking grown-ups and the GOP is led by an adolescent Cheeto:
Regardless of what you say about Hillary Clinton — and there are many, many, many, many uncomplimentary things you could say about her (and be right) — you can not deny that she’s a serious woman. With a serious career. And serious ideas. Who has devoted her life to doing serious things. And who is comfortable in a room with equally serious people. Basically, she’s a fucking grown up. As is our President and Vice President. And Hillary’s husband, the former President. All men who could and should be criticized and held accountable for decisions they’ve made. But all fucking grown ups.
posted by palindromic at 3:54 PM on July 28, 2016 [19 favorites]


Where's Feinstein?

See my comment upthread for the official word anyway.
posted by zachlipton at 3:55 PM on July 28, 2016


Marlon Marshall Director of States/Political Engagement with Hillary for America.
posted by winna at 3:55 PM on July 28, 2016


ErisLordFreedom: Where's a good livestream? I've been watching on Twitch, and the gamergate-style sexism in the comments is starting to get to me.

Not sure if you're on mobile, but on a computer browser you can click to hide the chat window.
posted by bluecore at 3:56 PM on July 28, 2016


Where's a good livestream?
I recommend the official stream.
posted by ArbiterOne at 3:56 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Youtube's here, or just hit the gear on the lower left of the chat on Twitch to hide it.
posted by rewil at 3:56 PM on July 28, 2016


Did I miss DiFi? I didn't see her up there.
posted by ActingTheGoat at 3:56 PM on July 28, 2016


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fw7XiCJL4M

"Chat is disabled for this live stream."
posted by tss at 3:56 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Any Twitch stream is worthy of insta-hiding the chat window, this is no exception. Click the gear icon to do so.
posted by JauntyFedora at 3:56 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Oh good lord don't read the Twitch comments. (You can hide it by clicking the gear icon and selecting "hide chat.")
posted by Spathe Cadet at 3:56 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


ErisLordFreedom, you can run twitch in a standalone player without the comments. You can also just hide the chat.
posted by Foci for Analysis at 3:56 PM on July 28, 2016


Where's a good livestream? I've been watching on Twitch, and the gamergate-style sexism in the comments is starting to get to me.

Here's Youtube's comment-free livestream.
posted by zombieflanders at 3:56 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


ErisLordFreedom: You can turn off the Twitch chat, and instantly improve your quality of life. That's how I've been viewing.
posted by Superplin at 3:56 PM on July 28, 2016


Thank zachlipton, I missed it in the fast moving thread.
posted by ActingTheGoat at 3:56 PM on July 28, 2016


(The YT link I shared is less stutter-y for me than the stream on the DNC website.)
posted by tss at 3:56 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Is this the guy responsible for Hillary's amazing Twitter feed?
posted by stolyarova at 3:57 PM on July 28, 2016


HI DENVER
posted by rewil at 3:57 PM on July 28, 2016


Where's a good livestream? I've been watching on Twitch, and the gamergate-style sexism in the comments is starting to get to me.
As O'Brien passed the telescreen a thought seemed to strike him. He stopped, turned aside and pressed a switch on the wall. There was a sharp snap. The voice had stopped.

Julia uttered a tiny sound, a sort of squeak of surprise. Even in the midst of his panic, Winston was too much taken aback to be able to hold his tongue.

'You can turn it off!' he said.

'Yes,' said O'Brien, 'we can turn it off. We have that privilege.'
--George Orwell, 1984

Seriously though, you can turn the chat off and just watch the video on Twitch. Alternatively, YouTube stream.
posted by zachlipton at 3:57 PM on July 28, 2016 [15 favorites]


bluecore, Foci for Analysis - THANK YOU! I turned off the chat window. :)
posted by ErisLordFreedom at 3:57 PM on July 28, 2016


Where's a good livestream?

Right here. So nice to have no talking heads.
posted by bearwife at 3:57 PM on July 28, 2016


Trump: “I wanted to hit a couple speakers so hard. I would've hit this little guy so hard … he’d never recover." --@christinawilkie

Trump, you're 70 years old, and there is no evidence that you regularly exercise. You can't kill anyone with your punches.
posted by dis_integration at 3:58 PM on July 28, 2016 [15 favorites]


Woooooooo.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 3:58 PM on July 28, 2016


https://www.demconvention.com/live/ is streaming the feed with no talking heads. I get my color commentary here.
posted by ActingTheGoat at 3:58 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Marshall is chaperoning a watch party feed all over the country so there are all these happy people from all over the country doing live video right now.
posted by winna at 3:59 PM on July 28, 2016


We had an article in the local newspaper about the boy who will speak from Richmond VA. He was so excited!
posted by Tarumba at 3:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Wooooooooo
posted by robocop is bleeding at 3:59 PM on July 28, 2016


Trump, you're 70 years old, and there is no evidence that you regularly exercise. You can't kill anyone with your punches.

Well, there is a non-zero chance he'd kill himself trying.
posted by Mooski at 3:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Who is this adorable boy from Richmond and can I adopt him??
posted by Salieri at 3:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


I want to lower the voting age for Elijah.
posted by zombieflanders at 3:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


There is a twelve year old doing the feed from Richmond and he is SOOOOO ADORABLE
posted by winna at 3:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


this kid is amazing!
posted by Foci for Analysis at 4:00 PM on July 28, 2016


Fun fact about California that you might not have known, both senators are women and both have continued to be re-elected since 1993 when the Junior Senator Boxer was first elected.
posted by Secret Life of Gravy at 4:00 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


OMG, Elijah, I love you!
posted by mochapickle at 4:00 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


He is wearing a tiny three piece suit!
posted by winna at 4:00 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Trump, you're 70 years old, and there is no evidence that you regularly exercise. You can't kill anyone with your punches.

His hands are twice as aerodynamic as most hands

They might be faster and more dangerous
posted by Ray Walston, Luck Dragon at 4:00 PM on July 28, 2016 [24 favorites]


I would like to vote for that young man IMMEDIATELY.
posted by a fiendish thingy at 4:00 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


omg this kid!
posted by LobsterMitten at 4:00 PM on July 28, 2016


Omg that kid!!!!
posted by mothershock at 4:00 PM on July 28, 2016


Marshall wants us to text WIN to 47246 to volunteer.
posted by winna at 4:01 PM on July 28, 2016


Trump might stain someone permanently with a punch.
posted by Spathe Cadet at 4:01 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


both senators are women and both have continued to be re-elected since 1993 when the Junior Senator Boxer was first elected.

And this year there is a 100% chance we will elect another Democratic woman as Senator to replace Boxer!
posted by thefoxgod at 4:01 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


Tarumba- Elijah was ADORABLE! That kid definitely has a bright future!
posted by Sophie1 at 4:01 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Weeee Peruvian lady represent!!
posted by Tarumba at 4:02 PM on July 28, 2016


(A 100% chance of a Democratic woman of color, even)
posted by thefoxgod at 4:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


but the group I work for (a large progressive org) has been communicating closely with a lot of left-leaning groups doing activism around the conventions, especially groups led by people of color, and this is literally the first time I've heard of DNC Action.

Thanks for your work.

I'm not at all against protest and action. I'm glad to see MF call out some of these people though.

I grew up thinking the Left was all about self serving groups and pointless theater. The idea that all protest is valid and can't be criticized is completely self defeating. BLM and Occupy are trying to get people to think about things. It's too bad if they are associated with this, but I don't know that I believe it. Stunts like yelling "No TPP" over people who agree with you on 90% of the issues and citizens arrests are just to get attention. I am not joking when I say this is what turns a majority of people off, maybe one of the main things, and has never won anyone over.

People need to decide if "inclusive" means what most people think it means, or just another sub group of "people who are like me and agree with me 100%". They need to convince others that we're really all in this together. They have to listen as well as talk.
posted by bongo_x at 4:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [17 favorites]


Like don't you wish that after she delivered her speech, it didn't immediately go to CNN man, Fox man, NBC man, to talk about what you just saw?

Come on over to PBS, where it'll go to Gwen Ifill.
posted by toxic at 4:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


LBJ was a low-down dirty rotten absolutely amazing transformative scoundrel who did so much good-bad.

LBJ reminds me of W.E.B. DuBois' remarks on Abraham Lincoln:
...at the crisis he was big enough to be inconsistent--cruel, merciful; peace-loving, a fighter; despising Negroes and letting them fight and vote; protecting slavery and freeing slaves. He was a man--a big, inconsistent, brave man.
...
And I love him not because he was perfect but because he was not and yet triumphed.
posted by kirkaracha at 4:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [20 favorites]


Lorella Praeli, a former DREAMer and current Latino Outreach for Hillary for America is getting a video now.
posted by winna at 4:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


AAAh Lorella Praelli. Swallowing the lump in my throat. I don't cry very often but I think tonight is going to be full-on waterworks
posted by Secret Life of Gravy at 4:04 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


That First Things article says that the Drmocrats talking about a war on women is simply divisive and politically correct. Fuck you, First Things.

Its use of false equivalencies is certainly problematic, but since the section was talking about "the rhetoric of denunciation", it seems like the critique is less about the issues behind the war on women, but the language and the framing of it being a war. So it's tone policing, but not necessarily dismissing the existence of oppression.
posted by Apocryphon at 4:05 PM on July 28, 2016


I know, I feel like I should have kept a Cry Count from Day 1.
posted by palindromic at 4:05 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Donald Trump is in Iowa telling an audience how he wanted to hit people speaking at the DNC.
I am not making this up.
In particular he wanted to beat up a "little guy"


Is he talking about Ryan Moore? DNC speaker with dwarfism and South Sioux City, Nebraska resident Ryan Moore? I'm from Iowa, in Sioux City. I don't know Mr. Moore but but South Sioux is right across the river, he's a member of my community. This neck of the woods is thick with Trump supporters and just when I think they can't get any more shameless, well, I know they'll still be flashing Trump signs and bumper stickers tomorrow, even after this horrible shit he said about one of our neighbors directly.
posted by jason_steakums at 4:05 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


I was just informed of a VITAL ENDORSEMENT for Hillary Clinton.
posted by ultranos at 4:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


"It was my undocumented mother who taught me what it is to be an American"
posted by LobsterMitten at 4:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


Ok that's like the fourth speaker to get 867-5309 as their entrance song and it's weirding me out.
posted by zachlipton at 4:08 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


I'm confused by all this Tommy Tutone this DNC.
posted by dw at 4:08 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Is he talking about Ryan Moore?

I think it more likely that he was talking about Bloomberg.
posted by Secret Life of Gravy at 4:08 PM on July 28, 2016


Joaquín Castro, Congressman from Texas.
posted by winna at 4:08 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


"No dogs or Mexicans allowed." Jesus Christ.
posted by Superplin at 4:08 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]




He told a story about how his family had to walk past signs in front of stores that said no dogs or Mexicans.
posted by winna at 4:09 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Julian Castro is in fact Congressman Castro's identical twin!

But he is probably not the person on stage right now.
posted by winna at 4:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


"Justice is not a zero-sum game. We can back our men and women in blue, and still support Black Lives Matter."

YES WHY IS THIS SO DIFFICULT FOR SOME PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND????

I should have made guacamole again today.
posted by Superplin at 4:11 PM on July 28, 2016 [28 favorites]


"I don't care what Donald Trump or Ted Cruz will say, the ACA is here to stay."
posted by winna at 4:11 PM on July 28, 2016


"No one has ever told me that their family came here looking for the lowest corporate tax rate."
posted by winna at 4:12 PM on July 28, 2016 [26 favorites]


"Nobody has ever told me their ancestors came here looking for the lowest corporate tax rate."
posted by palindromic at 4:12 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Looking forward to a seriously confusing ticket Castro/Castro 2024
posted by Hairy Lobster at 4:13 PM on July 28, 2016 [11 favorites]


I have to say I think it's fascinating how close but different our transcriptions can be.
posted by winna at 4:13 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]




More twitter feed while a band sets up!
posted by winna at 4:13 PM on July 28, 2016


Santana -- "Everybody's Everything"!!
 
posted by Herodios at 4:14 PM on July 28, 2016


Why I am suddenly so nervous? I want tonight to go so well.

Code Switch recently introduced me to the term "Rep Sweats," or as they say "I don't know if I like this but I need it to win."

The idea, roughly, is that if you are a member of a minority, especially one not well represented in most public arenas, when that minority is represented it's very difficult not to identify with them, to take their successes or failures as your own.

[This is why the mediocre trailer for Ghostbusters has made me too nervous to watch it, but determined to support it financially by buying it once it' s released on video].

Now, I actually do like and admire Hillary Clinton. But I wish there were enough female politicians that this one didn't have the weight of being a credit to her kind so heavily on her shoulders.
posted by pocketfullofrye at 4:14 PM on July 28, 2016 [19 favorites]


Just saw a tweet that said 'going in hard with today's sock game'.
posted by winna at 4:14 PM on July 28, 2016


I have to say I think it's fascinating how close but different our transcriptions can be.

I do it with song lyrics all the time.
posted by palindromic at 4:14 PM on July 28, 2016


I almost wish HRC had nominated one of the Castro brothers for VP just for the inevitable idiotic Trump conspiracy theories re: Fidel.
posted by stolyarova at 4:15 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Someone tweeted their selfie with Albright and I have to confess I am jelly.
posted by winna at 4:16 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


What band are they setting up for?
posted by stolyarova at 4:17 PM on July 28, 2016


Superflin, I am now going to spend another day drooling about guacamole. When Clinton is elected I'm going to think of avocado every time she speaks because of this.
posted by Joey Michaels at 4:18 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Sheila E
posted by mochapickle at 4:18 PM on July 28, 2016


SHEILA E AND THE E FAMILY
posted by winna at 4:18 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


it's a drum circle! sort of
posted by stolyarova at 4:19 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


winna: I have to say I think it's fascinating how close but different our transcriptions can be.

I am so tempted to do an analysis of this... but it's just that half-step too far out of my research area that I have to reluctantly step back. I would love to see something, or even help out if anyone is so moved, though.
posted by Superplin at 4:19 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


From Trump's statement on America's future: At Hillary Clinton's convention this week, Democrats have been speaking about a world that doesn't exist. A world where America has full employment...

No one claimed that.

...where there's no such thing as radical Islamic terrorism...

Terrorism was talked about quite a bit yesterday. As far as I know no one said the magic phrase, though.

...where the border is totally secured...

No one claimed that either.

...ISIS doesn't merit a mention...

President Obama mentioned ISIL several times (Trump might be too stupid to know it's the same thing).

...our great men and women of law enforcement, our police, do not need to be honored...

Several speakers have honored the police, including President Obama.
posted by kirkaracha at 4:19 PM on July 28, 2016 [11 favorites]


I had an avocado bubble tea today and if you have never had one you should remedy this grave lack in your life as soon as you can.
posted by winna at 4:19 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Superflin, I am now going to spend another day drooling about guacamole. When Clinton is elected I'm going to think of avocado every time she speaks because of this.

My work here is done AND I have a fantastic new undercover name for top-secret activities.
posted by Superplin at 4:20 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


There is some really swinging percussion going on right now.
posted by winna at 4:20 PM on July 28, 2016


I don't know, RNC's percussion solo's were pretty good too
posted by Taft at 4:20 PM on July 28, 2016


There is an email screencap on Twitter showing Trump asking people not to watch the dnc today because he doesn't want ratings to be too high.

I went ahead and subscribed to get Trump's emails, just in case they send something funny.

This made me realize a huge amount of people probably did the same thing, and the same with the convention. I mean a ton of people watched the RNC for the lulz. I'm sure deep down everyone in Trump's campaign knows this except for Trump of course.
posted by Tarumba at 4:20 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


Now this is the appropriate time for cowbell!
posted by ashirys at 4:21 PM on July 28, 2016


The dude with the I think bongos is FEELING IT
posted by winna at 4:21 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


This was a superior slow jam.
posted by winna at 4:22 PM on July 28, 2016


That was great.
posted by homunculus at 4:22 PM on July 28, 2016


Cameron Esposito is hilarious.
posted by stolyarova at 4:22 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


I am getting really fucking nervous about what the Bernie or Bust people have planned for tonight. They've got these matching light-reflecting t-shirts, and photos of the convention center make it look like there are a lot of them. If they steal this moment from me, I swear to God I will never forgive them, and I will never forgive Bernie.
posted by ArbitraryAndCapricious at 4:22 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


Cameron Esposito and Austan Goolsbee in a video to mock Trump for not releasing his tax returns.
posted by zachlipton at 4:22 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


"I'm in President Obama's cabinet."

"At home, I have a cabinet."
posted by stolyarova at 4:22 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


"Maybe it was just insufficient postage."
posted by winna at 4:22 PM on July 28, 2016


Cameron Esposito OMG I love her! I saw her live last fall and a friend and I talked to her after the show and she was just absolutely the best.
posted by Superplin at 4:23 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Seems like everybody's waiting
For a new change to come around
Come around, come around, come around
Waiting for the day when the
King & Queen of soul sing around
Sing around, sing around, sing around
Dig this sound --
Time for you to all get down
[da- da da da da dah]
Yeah, do it!
 
posted by Herodios at 4:23 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


At this point they are no longer Sanders supporters, he explicitly told them not to be assholes.
posted by Tarumba at 4:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [24 favorites]


Is the DNC feed really out of sync for anyone else?
posted by winna at 4:24 PM on July 28, 2016


President Obama mentioned ISIL several times (Trump might be too stupid to know it's the same thing).

Oh he knows. And of course it bothers him. So every time Obama says it, I snicker a little.
posted by cashman at 4:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


I saw her open for Maria Bamford, which was one of the best opener-headliner combos I've seen.
posted by palindromic at 4:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


"I am a fan of the future, and cyber is the future"

Uhh. Donald? You're gross. I'd never ask your ASL on IRC.
posted by Annika Cicada at 1:43 PM on July 28 [26 favorites −] Favorite added! [!]


I'd do it in a rabbit heartbeat, just to have the chat logs to pass around
posted by middleclasstool at 1:43 PM on July 28 [2 favorites −] Favorite added! [!]


"I put on my robe and wizard hat..."
posted by infinitywaltz at 1:44 PM on July 28 [8 favorites −] Favorite added! [!]


YOU GUISE that just made my day !
posted by iffthen at 4:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Matches for me. Might want to restart your browser?
posted by stolyarova at 4:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]




At this point, it's no longer about Bernie. It's about a handful of idiots who need to either get on the bus or get on Jill Stein's bus. If they get punted from the convention, I would have zero qualms.
posted by dw at 4:26 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Andrew Cuomo, governor of New York.
posted by winna at 4:26 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]




restarting fixed it, stolyarova!
posted by winna at 4:27 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


At Hillary Clinton's convention this week, Democrats have been speaking about a world that doesn't exist...
And Dishonest Don described a convention that didn't happen. The statement may have been targeted toward reassuring his faithful followers that everything is sh!t without him, but if any number of undecided voters saw both conventions then read that, the BIG LIE statement probably made a significant percentage turn to Hillary.
posted by oneswellfoop at 4:27 PM on July 28, 2016


"Fan the flames of fear" I wasn't sure he was going to get through that without fumbling.
posted by ashirys at 4:28 PM on July 28, 2016


restarting fixed it, stolyarova!

you accelerationist scum
posted by tivalasvegas at 4:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [13 favorites]


I shook Cameron Esposito's hand once, and then gave her real cash money for her album Grab Them Aghast that was printed on CD.

She's awesome.
posted by qcubed at 4:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


It is the mind killer.
posted by palindromic at 4:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


"Fear has never built a community, and fear will never build a nation. And let's remember when they sell fear, fear is not strength, fear is weakness."
posted by winna at 4:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


YES! Call out that good-old-days bullshit! Awesome!
posted by Hairy Lobster at 4:30 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


"I want to know what good old days they want to take us back to. Do they want us to take back before the Civil Rights Act? Do they want to take us back before worker protection and the minimum wage? Or do they want to take us back before Roe v Wade?"
posted by winna at 4:31 PM on July 28, 2016 [13 favorites]


"Let's be honest, in this country right now we have two education systems. Not public and private, but rich and poor."

YES
posted by winna at 4:31 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


laptops vs metal detectors --- that's a great message
posted by yesster at 4:32 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


Oh DAMN that metal-detector line. That was HARSH.
posted by Andrhia at 4:32 PM on July 28, 2016


Why so much criticism for the protestors? After tonight, everyone will thank them for their courageous and righteous act. They will be written about in the history books for saving the country and sparking the revolution!
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 4:32 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


"The strongest four-letter word is not hate, but love."
posted by winna at 4:32 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


I was not under the impression that 'hate' was the strongest four letter word.
posted by palindromic at 4:33 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Woah "two different school systems: one for the rich and one for the poor"
[... ]
"Where the most sofisticated piece of equipment is the metal detectors"
posted by Tarumba at 4:33 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


Also a fun aside: I asked on Facebook for someone with drawing skills to make Marcia Fudge look like a dynamic superhero with her gavel and my friend Ruben sprung into action.
posted by Senor Cardgage at 4:34 PM on July 28, 2016 [35 favorites]


I love what he's saying but that doesn't make him sound any less like an Adam Sandler character.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 4:35 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


*clutches pearls*

This man is a communist!
posted by Tarumba at 4:35 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


I never expected Andrew Cuomo to be this good!
posted by yesster at 4:35 PM on July 28, 2016


I'm sorry I just can't my hatred for Sandra Lee is just too overwhelming
posted by sallybrown at 4:35 PM on July 28, 2016


omg Cuomo talking about schools after all his efforts to destroy teacher's unions in new york. can't deal.
posted by dis_integration at 4:36 PM on July 28, 2016 [18 favorites]


Is it me, or is today less fun?
posted by ethansr at 4:36 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Is it me, or is today less fun?
posted by ethansr at 4:36 PM

This has hardly even begun.
posted by yesster at 4:37 PM on July 28, 2016


I was pretty sure today could not live up to the last 3 days, that's a pretty high bar.
posted by bongo_x at 4:38 PM on July 28, 2016


My friend in Omaha reports that Bloomberg's speech was very well-received by her Republican-voting parents, so hey, maybe speeches from problematic NY politicians are reaching other ears.
posted by palindromic at 4:38 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


Still ahead:

STRONGER TOGETHER: AN ECONOMY THAT WORKS FOR ALL]

Remarks: U.S. Representative Tim Ryan (Ohio)
Remarks: Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper
Introduction of Speakers: Ted Danson & Mary Steenburgen
Remarks: Henrietta Ivey (Home care worker & minimum wage advocate)
Remarks: Dave Wills (School teacher and student debt sufferer)
Remarks: Beth Mathias
Remarks: Jensen Walcott & Jake Reed (Equal wage advocates)
Remarks: Pennsylvania Governor Tom Wolf
Remarks: Jennifer Granholm (Former Michigan Governor)

[STRONGER TOGETHER: AMERICANS FOR HILLARY]

Remarks: Doug Elmets (Former Reagan Administration official)
Remarks: Jennifer Pierotti Lim (Director of Health Policy, U.S. Chamber of Commerce & Co-Founder of Republican Women for Hillary)

[STRONGER TOGETHER: TRIBUTE TO FALLEN LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS]

Remarks: Dallas Sheriff Lupe Valdez
Remarks: Jennifer Loudon, Wayne Walker, Wayne Owens, Barbara Owens (Family members of fallen law enforcement officers)

[STRONGER TOGETHER: AN INCLUSIVE AMERICA]

Remarks: Reverend William Barber
Introduction of Film: Kareem Abdul-Jabaar
Remarks: Khizr Khan (Father of one of 14 American Muslims who died serving in the US military after 9/11)

[STRONGER TOGETHER: SUPPORTING OUR MILITARY]

Remarks: Ted Lieu (U.S. Representative California)
Remarks: General John Allen (ret. USMC), former Commander, International Security Assistance Forces, and Commander, United States Forces – Afghanistan
Remarks: Florent Groberg (Ret. US Army Captain and Medal of Honor Winner)
Remarks: Chloe Grace Moretz
Remarks: U.S. Representative Xavier Becerra (California)
Remarks: U.S. Senator Sherrod Brown (Ohio)
Musical Performance: Katy Perry

10:00 – 11:00 PM (EDT)

Introduction of Hillary Clinton: Chelsea Clinton
Remarks: Hillary Clinton
Benediction: Reverend Bill Shillady

posted by mochapickle at 4:38 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Also a fun aside: I asked on Facebook for someone with drawing skills to make Marcia Fudge look like a dynamic superhero with her gavel and my friend Ruben sprung into action.

Ok that is awesome, but I still want Marcia Fudge throwing up her arms after forgetting to gavel to be a meme.
posted by zachlipton at 4:38 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Chris, a delegate from Washington State, told us: “Half the Bernie delegates walked out on Tuesday and didn’t come back. Today the other half are walking out.

So, assuming they go through with it, they plan to just shit all over progressivism against the wishes of Dear Leader in some demonstration of purity. Good work, assholes.
posted by Talez at 4:39 PM on July 28, 2016 [35 favorites]


Claire McCaskill, Senator from Missouri.

And famous shotgunner of beers.


I mostly voted for her to legitimately vote against Todd Akin but if I had known this I would have gone to the polls singing her name!
posted by Kid Charlemagne at 4:40 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


To be fair, at the end of today EVERYONE is walking out.
posted by garius at 4:41 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


Well, we Washington State liberals do tend to be pretty smug in our opinions. And we sent a LOT of Sanders delegates to the convention, so, not surprising.
posted by Windopaene at 4:42 PM on July 28, 2016


Eh. They can walk out if they want. That doesn't disrupt the experience for anyone else.
posted by soren_lorensen at 4:42 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


House Democratic Leader, Nancy Pelosi.
posted by winna at 4:42 PM on July 28, 2016


Nancy Pelosi coming out to Tina Turner's Simply the Best.
posted by Talez at 4:42 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Man, I would have taken those credentials and drove down in a heartbeat, a god-damned heartbeat.
posted by palindromic at 4:42 PM on July 28, 2016


I'm sorry I just can't my hatred for Sandra Lee is just too overwhelming

There, there, sallybrown. Let me bake cookies for you!

*opens bag of Chips Ahoy*
*opens can of Reddi Whip*
*squirts contents of can into bag*
posted by Atom Eyes at 4:43 PM on July 28, 2016 [39 favorites]


How do they select specific delegates? Couldn't Bernie or his people have tried to select more that AREN'T assholes?
posted by oneswellfoop at 4:43 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


> Kaine: Trump right that I was 'lousy' New Jersey governor
posted by kirkaracha at 4:26 PM on July 28 [1 favorite +] [!]


I love how he's totally owning/playing up/leaning into the dad jokes thing.

I second whoever upthread said that they hope the Onion keeps Diamond Joe Biden around as Area Dad Tim Kaine's troublemaking houseguest who refuses to leave.
posted by You Can't Tip a Buick at 4:44 PM on July 28, 2016 [15 favorites]


The Embodied and the Voiced - a really great piece on the Mothers of the Movement portion of the DNC by Ezekiel Kweku aka shrill

But it was hard to ignore the fact that of the three mothers who were chosen to speak, only one — Reed-Veal — had lost her child at the hands of the police. And even Sandra Bland’s death was as at a level of a remove and responsibility; she was found dead in her jail cell after an unwarranted traffic stop. The choice of these particular stories by those organizing the event cannot possibly have been a coincidence. This is not to say that these stories are unimportant or the deaths any less tragic. But even in a moment dedicated to black life, black death was seasoned for white palates, curated for white sensibilities.
posted by burgerrr at 4:44 PM on July 28, 2016


California, my native land, rocks! Feinstein, Boxer AND Nancy Pelosi.
posted by Secret Life of Gravy at 4:44 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


How do they select specific delegates? Couldn't Bernie or his people have tried to select more that AREN'T assholes?

Why The California Delegation Has Created Such A Ruckus At The DNC: Muirhead, who said he has not been part of the chanting crowd, said that given California’s late position in the primary schedule, many of its delegates were elected during a less-than-idyllic period of the campaign. “I think they knew the end was coming,” he said of the Sanders supporters. “The arguments for sticking around were getting more desperate, and a lot of California delegates are more steeped in the ‘system is rigged’ argument.”
posted by acidic at 4:46 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


Oy, Nancy is struggling up here.
posted by argybarg at 4:46 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


How do they select specific delegates? Couldn't Bernie or his people have tried to select more that AREN'T assholes?

In the great tradition that is the United States system of thousands of voting systems of electoral chaos it depends entirely on where you vote. Some states the campaign selects and you vote for the candidate directly. Other states you vote for the delegates directly on the ballot and it states who they support.
posted by Talez at 4:47 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


From palindromic's article up thread, the most insightful and erudite question so far in the presidential race:


"Forget about running a country, would you trust Donald Trump to babysit a cashew?"

posted by Tarumba at 4:47 PM on July 28, 2016 [17 favorites]


Pelosi, what in the heck. This is very bad reading.
posted by Ambrosia Voyeur at 4:47 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


As a Cascadian, I'm deeply embarassed by the Washington State delegation's behavior. I do not consider myself represented by them.

Some of my Buster friends(?) are circulating a post about some sort of sekrit squirrel planned action for her speech tonight, which "true progressives" (baaaarf) ought to tune in for. The comments thread on one includes such gems as "i'll watch it on mute so i don't need to hear her" and "i'll watch it later so i won't help her ratings."

For me, this election has been a masterclass in why the far left will never accomplish its aims.
posted by EatTheWeak at 4:48 PM on July 28, 2016 [25 favorites]


All these New Yorkers make a lot of sense to me. New York City's Trump's city, so Hillary has to take it back from the demented hamsterheaded blowhard. He can't claim to be the savvy NYC billionaire because Bloomberg is. He can't moon around about 9/11 because Hillary was the senator who saved the city. She's the true New Yorker, and here are all these other true New Yorkers to vouch for that.
posted by Don Pepino at 4:48 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


Her reputation has been built on being a workhorse, not on being a great orator.
posted by yesster at 4:48 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


With you on the second two, but we can do better than Feinstein.
posted by contraption at 4:48 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


She wasn't on the schedule at all earlier, so this must be what last-minute speechwriting gets us.
posted by rewil at 4:48 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


He can't moon around about 9/11 because Hilary was the senator who saved the city. She's the true New Yorker, and here are all these other true New Yorkers to vouch for that.

Is Bernie a true New Yorker?
posted by ZenMasterThis at 4:49 PM on July 28, 2016


Nancy Pelosi does many things well, but this has never been one of them.
posted by zachlipton at 4:50 PM on July 28, 2016


Seeing Nancy Pelosi speak reminds me of when she became the first female Speaker of the House in 2008, and gave a victory speech surrounded by her grandkids, and was criticized for that, as if it was some kind of setback for feminism ("No male speaker of the house has felt the need to bring out his grandchildren for his victory speech"). Picking up that thread from earlier in the comments... it looks like some things haven't exactly changed in 8 years.

I don't mind so much; I think it's helping me articulate some things to myself. Turns out I am the kind of feminist who wants to center children and families in the political conversation, even if women have to be the ones to do it and take a few hits from the patriarchy in the process.
posted by sunset in snow country at 4:50 PM on July 28, 2016 [20 favorites]


Thanks for the list of speakers, mochapickle! I was able to cue up the links so as people arrive I will not be frantically googling for a relevant link to their information.
posted by winna at 4:51 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Is it me, or is today less fun?

There do seem to be more straight up pols and fewer eloquent amateurs. Also no real heavy hitters coming other than Clinton herself. I think there is probably a need to give other pols the exposure while not want to detract from the Big Moment. I'm guessing that Clinton's speech will have huge viewership because it is so historic but she isn't the orator that Biden Mr. and Mrs. Obama and Bill are so rather than have it seem flatter in comparison, she only has to outshine her daughter.
posted by Secret Life of Gravy at 4:51 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


i'll watch it later so i won't help her ratings.

Do ratings still work the way they used to? They used to work through Nielsen boxes, basically an army of people paid to report what they watch. Like they don't actually keep track of what everyone is watching and give an accurate count. They get a statistical sample. It doesn't matter if you tune out, or watch later. The ratings will be the same. I think that's still how it works?
posted by dis_integration at 4:51 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Chris, a delegate from Washington State, told us: “Half the Bernie delegates walked out on Tuesday and didn’t come back. Today the other half are walking out.

On the same site: I am at the DNC in Philadelphia and I cannot find a single Hillary supporter

Um. If this is the stuff they publish, I'm not sure Chris from Washington is completely on the up-and-up.
posted by dw at 4:52 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


Representative Tim Ryan from Ohio.
posted by winna at 4:53 PM on July 28, 2016


Eh. They can walk out if they want. That doesn't disrupt the experience for anyone else.
It's an attempt to co-opt the narrative. Instead of talking about Hillary's triumphant speech, the media will be talking about the Bernie or Busters and about Bernie. Instead of focusing on how great the convention was, the media will be focusing on disunity in the party. The idea is to deny Hillary attention and legitimacy.

And yeah, I blame Bernie. You don't need to be a political genius to know that revolutions often slip out of the grasp of the people who started them. He should have seen this coming. The fact that he didn't is a testament to his failings as a leader and a strategist.
posted by ArbitraryAndCapricious at 4:53 PM on July 28, 2016 [32 favorites]


Um. If this is the stuff they publish, I'm not sure Chris from Washington is completely on the up-and-up.

That article is about outside the convention, and it's true that there aren't many(any?) Hillary supporters among the protesters.
posted by acidic at 4:54 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


I don't think the people saying that know or care about the finer details of the Nielsen system
posted by tivalasvegas at 4:54 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Caren Bohan ‏@carenbohan 2m2 minutes ago
BREAKING ON REUTERS - FBI is investigating a cyber intrusion at the DCCC that may be related to hack at DNC - sources @josephmenn @dnvolz
posted by waitingtoderail at 4:54 PM on July 28, 2016


Don't cross picket lines!
posted by stet at 4:55 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


I cannot believe the Washington delegation will act that way. It would disrespect their own party, the President, and Bernie himself, who spoke to the delegation. And I don't find it credible.
posted by bearwife at 4:55 PM on July 28, 2016


I will never be comfortable with people using the phrase 'stabbed in the back'.
posted by winna at 4:55 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


"Is it me, or is today less fun?"

They have to be all kind of exhausted. I mean I have been watching at home and I am pretty tired. It's intense.
posted by Tarumba at 4:56 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


I'm mildly irritated by the BernieBrat contingent in that they are basing much of their opposition on delusion -- they seem entirely incapable of realizing that in fact more people voted for Hillary Clinton so she won and that is how things should work. But eh, if they want to walk out it's their right. It's at least vaguely connected to what is going on, compared to their shrieking about their pet causes over every speaker. I just wish they had all walked out earlier and stayed out given they don't want to belong to the party or actually support the candidate that they are supposedly delegates for. You know, the actual candidate's thoughts and wishes, rather than their fantasy construction of them. Actually, their treatment of Bernie reminds me of their treatment of PoC voters, delegates, and speakers: convinced they actually know what is good and correct for them, rather than what the actual people express a wish for.

(yes, I know there are a few PoC among the deadenders. But every demo I've seen has been overwhelmingly white, in a convention where 50 percent of the delegates are PoC or Hispanic.)
posted by tavella at 4:56 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


Trump isn't going to like being referred to as a millionaire, I don't think. He wants you to think he's a billionaire.
posted by ArbitraryAndCapricious at 4:57 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Her naked in America plan?

Tell me more!
posted by jammer at 4:57 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


I'm gonna have to catch up on all this later - I keep getting work phone calls and coming back to find I've missed three speakers.

... Is this how election conventions are supposed to work? I hadn't watched them before, and the Republican side of things only had a handful of speakers each night. And that did seem sparse, but this seems... overwhelming. So many voices. So many stories, all awesome.

Except for the part where I keep missing them.
posted by ErisLordFreedom at 4:57 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


See? Describing an actual plan and the budget attached. Well done.
posted by mochapickle at 4:57 PM on July 28, 2016


OK, it gets weirder. There is no delegate named Chris(topher) from WA.
posted by dw at 4:57 PM on July 28, 2016 [17 favorites]


Is there ever a convention where there's a hoard of protesters who support the nominee? Where people wave signs saying "Let the thing that already happened, happen?" That's, well, not really something to protest. Discovering that the people protesting don't support what's happening is hardly newsworthy.
posted by zachlipton at 4:58 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


He can't moon around about 9/11 because Hilary was the senator who saved the city.

Anyone else curious to read the longform article about what Hillary did on 9/11 and in the days after that's sure to appear in some publication of great esteem? Like, all the quiet stuff that we don't know about yet?

I cannot believe the Washington delegation will act that way. It would disrespect their own party, the President, and Bernie himself, who spoke to the delegation. And I don't find it credible.

As someone who witnessed embarrassing behavior at a legislative district caucus, I can believe it, unfortunately.
posted by Blue Jello Elf at 4:58 PM on July 28, 2016


I feel like the people who want to disrupt Hillary Clinton's speech tonight don't really care about progressive causes, so much as their own personal narrative of being 'an outsider sticking it to the man.' Part of Bernie's attraction was that he was different, the independent, who wasn't beholden to the big banks, etc. This attracted these sorts of people, and he never fully stamped out the myth that the system was rigged against him.

Anyone who disrupts Clinton tonight does nothing to progress whatever they think they stand for, it just alienates them from the Democratic party, a party that could change if they all actually joined the party, ran for positions, voted for people up and down the ballot that shared their views. Its easy to not compromise your ideals when you're 'the outsider'. You want change, you 'get in the arena' and stay there and push for change.
posted by airish at 4:58 PM on July 28, 2016 [31 favorites]


OK, it gets weirder. There is no delegate named Chris(topher) from WA.

James O'Keefe was skulking round earlier this week impersonating a Hillary delegate. I wouldn't put impersonating a Bernie delegate past the little amateur rat fucker.
posted by nathan_teske at 5:00 PM on July 28, 2016 [28 favorites]


So you're saying you're standing in... the room where it happened?
posted by stet at 5:01 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Tony Goldwyn, actor, doing a video.
posted by winna at 5:01 PM on July 28, 2016


It comes down to whether you want the best world we can make this world into or you want to see yourself as righteous. A lot of people will choose the second option every time.
posted by Pope Guilty at 5:01 PM on July 28, 2016 [71 favorites]


The stage setup makes me think there's going to be a battle of some sort later, maybe involving wrists tied together, knives and someone getting pushed out of the ring.
posted by bongo_x at 5:01 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]



OK, it gets weirder. There is no delegate named Chris(topher) from WA.
posted by dw at 4:57 PM on


This link set off my antivirus.
posted by Oyéah at 5:01 PM on July 28, 2016


I feel like this is starting to veer into conspiracy theory territory. DNC Action Committee is strongly associated with Jill Stein, BLM and Occupy. It's not some kind of shady false-flag org.

Good check. I don't think they're a false flag, and I should have been more explicit about that.
posted by lunasol at 5:02 PM on July 28, 2016


The stage setup makes me think there's going to be a battle of some sort later, maybe involving wrists tied together, knives and someone getting pushed out of the ring.

There is going to be a Katy Perry performance. Same diff?
posted by Andrhia at 5:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Favorited a million (if I could) times, Pope Guilty. You said it better than I ever could.
posted by downtohisturtles at 5:03 PM on July 28, 2016


Washington Examiner is just the sort of newspaper that would have virus ads. (It kind of blows)
posted by Yowser at 5:03 PM on July 28, 2016


And yeah, I blame Bernie. You don't need to be a political genius to know that revolutions often slip out of the grasp of the people who started them. He should have seen this coming. The fact that he didn't is a testament to his failings as a leader and a strategist.

Cuts both ways. Team Hilary should have seen it coming too, then, and conceded the platform changes much earlier.

It's like nobody in this party has precognition!
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 5:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


You guys, I lost my internet for a while there and nearly hyperventilated at the thought of missing the rest of the DNC.

It's back.
Still seriously regretting the lack of guacamole comfort.
posted by Superplin at 5:04 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


I feel like The Other Mark Wahlberg (of Antiques Roadshow fame) should be doing this (horrible) cheezee segment. And then asking for donations for public television.
posted by sallybrown at 5:04 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


I don't know if Trump is doing it on purpose or not, but by dropping a bunch of lies that are easily disproven he might be counting on the fact that people tend to remember the original lie as truth and not the refutation.
posted by drezdn at 5:04 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Someone protect Katy Perry's dancers from the nefarious Swift, stat.
posted by Yowser at 5:04 PM on July 28, 2016


This attracted these sorts of people, and he never fully stamped out actively encouraged the myth that the system was rigged against him.
posted by biogeo at 5:05 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


The neighbor boy that likes to come by and play with my daughter stopped by and asked what I was doing. I told him I was watching the Democratic National Convention right now. He asked if that meant I wanted Trump to win. I said no, it means that I will be working to stop him. He said good, because Donald Trump will destroy the world, and I'm not voting for him. He is eight years old, but we have his vote!
posted by palindromic at 5:05 PM on July 28, 2016 [50 favorites]


I don't understand how "It sure was hot in Philadelphia in 1776" is part of our national myth. We have records of the weather from Thomas Jefferson himself. The high temps were in the mid 70's to low 80's. Sure that might be uncomfortable if you're wearing a powdered wig, a wool waistcoat and frock coat, but it not HOT HOT by any means.
posted by peeedro at 5:05 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper, winner of the great name competition!
posted by winna at 5:05 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


This link set off my antivirus.

Try this.

posted by dw at 5:05 PM on July 28, 2016


"A whole generation of geologists lost their jobs."

For some reason this is cracking me up.
posted by winna at 5:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Shocking America, Martin O'Malley sprints to the stage and yells "Iacceptthenominationnotakebacks!" Turns out that's totally allowed. Prepare for O'Malleymentum.
posted by showbiz_liz at 5:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [15 favorites]


Forget 'what about the children' it should be 'what about the geologists?'!
posted by winna at 5:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


I don't know if Trump is doing it on purpose or not, but by dropping a bunch of lies that are easily disproven he might be counting on the fact that people tend to remember the original lie as truth and not the refutation.

I don't wonder for a second if that's what he's doing, that is exactly his schtick.
posted by contraption at 5:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper, winner of the great name competition!

He's no Butch Otter, Governor of Idaho, and definitely not a PK Dick character, no sir.
posted by palindromic at 5:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


I finally tuned in an hour ago and it feels like it's been just a parade of white guys since then. Look DNC, if I wanted to see a middle-aged white guy, I'd look in the mirror. That's not what I'm here for.

All due respect to these guys, I'm tired of the faces of the past. Show me more of the faces of the future please.
posted by Two unicycles and some duct tape at 5:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Shocking America, Martin O'Malley sprints to the stage and yells "Iacceptthenominationnotakebacks!" Turns out that's totally allowed. Prepare for O'Malleymentum.

Weren't you paying attention during the debates? When every sentence from him started with "in Baltimore" or "in Maryland?" Obviously he would say "In Baltimore, Iacceptthenominationnotakebacks!"
posted by zachlipton at 5:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


"Fear is not strength, fear is weakness."

When is this T-shirt gonna be on Hillary's web site?
posted by Kid Charlemagne at 5:08 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Someone tell me I'm not the only person seeing a strange resemblance to Tilda Swinton here.
posted by winna at 5:08 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


He's no Butch Otter, Governor of Idaho, and definitely not a PK Dick character, no sir.

I hear a Butch Otter is a real hot ticket at certain clubs.
posted by dis_integration at 5:08 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]



Shocking America, Martin O'Malley sprints to the stage and yells "Iacceptthenominationnotakebacks!" Turns out that's totally allowed. Prepare for O'Malleymentum.


Chaos is a ladder!
posted by drezdn at 5:09 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper, winner of the great name competition!
Close, but he comes in second. Just the other day, I told you guys about Toni Preckwinkle's (apparently now ex-) husband, Mr. Zeus Preckwinkle.
posted by ArbitraryAndCapricious at 5:09 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


like if Mark McKinney and Tilda Swinton had a baby and he grew up to be Governor of the great state of Colorado
posted by palindromic at 5:09 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


I cannot believe the Washington delegation will act that way. It would disrespect their own party, the President, and Bernie himself, who spoke to the delegation. And I don't find it credible.

As someone who has been surrounded by Washington Busters shooting their mouth off for a year, the reports of WA delegates being tantrum prone strike me as entirely, depressingly plausible.
posted by EatTheWeak at 5:09 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


plz no more pokemon go jokes
posted by dis_integration at 5:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Someone tell me I'm not the only person seeing a strange resemblance to Tilda Swinton here.

The shape of the eye area kinda?
posted by sallybrown at 5:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


"Put down your Pokeymon Go for a second."
posted by winna at 5:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Just lost the Pokemon Go player voters.
posted by zombieflanders at 5:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


"Put down your Pokémon Go for just a second and go to HillaryClinton.com"
posted by zachlipton at 5:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Speaker: "Put down your Pokemon GO for just a second."
Guy in audience: "NO!"
posted by arcolz at 5:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [37 favorites]


"Put down your Pokemon Go for just a second..."

VOICE IN THE CROWD: NO
posted by palindromic at 5:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


"Put down your Pokemon Go for just a minute..."

Audience member: "NO!"
posted by biogeo at 5:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Put down your Pokemon Go? What kind of man is this?
posted by waitingtoderail at 5:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


I don't understand how "It sure was hot in Philadelphia in 1776" is part of our national myth. We have records of the weather from Thomas Jefferson himself. The high temps were in the mid 70's to low 80's

That's outdoors. A bunch of people in a poorly ventilated space (they didn't want eavesdropping) gets considerably hotter.

Also a bunch of dudes were rocking calf stockings.
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 5:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Hickenlooper: "Put down your Pokemon Go for just a second."

Voice from the crowd: "NO!"
posted by joedan at 5:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Colorado has the second highest economy in the country (marijuana).
posted by Sophie1 at 5:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Someone tell me I'm not the only person seeing a strange resemblance to Tilda Swinton here.

You're not wrong.
posted by stet at 5:11 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


The high temps were in the mid 70's to low 80's. Sure that might be uncomfortable if you're wearing a powdered wig, a wool waistcoat and frock coat, but it not HOT HOT by any means.

Global warming has skewed our perceptions. These days, I don't get outta bed for anything less than 95.
posted by Salieri at 5:11 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Ted Danson & Mary Steenburgen, big Paul Simon fans.
posted by winna at 5:11 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


tonight is definitely less interesting, as evidenced by the fact that i've apparently started painting my nails red, white (silver glitter), and blue.
posted by misskaz at 5:12 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Honestly, if you bought a few incubators, a day spent door-knocking would be a great way to hatch some poke-eggs
posted by showbiz_liz at 5:12 PM on July 28, 2016 [20 favorites]


Put down your Pokemon Go? What kind of man is this?

Someone who is trying to maintain their tenuous grasp on the convention gym they run.
posted by drezdn at 5:12 PM on July 28, 2016 [37 favorites]


Dang it, I just had to use up a bunch of favorites for frikkin' Pokemon Go.
posted by biogeo at 5:12 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


I'm placing lures at voter registration drives.
posted by stet at 5:12 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


Pokemon Go is hip, no way this will hit the wrong note!
posted by Yowser at 5:12 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


the speakers tonight feel kinda flat. I hope they get better. they had great momentum yesterday and it would be a shame to squander it.

bahaha. ted danson wtf. "hers is the poetry of doing"
posted by mrjohnmuller at 5:13 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Detroit what!
posted by palindromic at 5:14 PM on July 28, 2016


Henrietta Ivey, home care worker & minimum wage advocate.
posted by winna at 5:14 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


I wonder if the teleprompters aren't running smoothly or something, it seems like a lot of speakers are pausing and choking at weird moments.
posted by biogeo at 5:15 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Shocking America, Martin O'Malley sprints to the stage and yells "Iacceptthenominationnotakebacks!" Turns out that's totally allowed. Prepare for O'Malleymentum.

Only to be literally dunked on by David Simon.
posted by ethansr at 5:15 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


This is the most familiar accent to me of all speakers so far.
posted by palindromic at 5:15 PM on July 28, 2016


Is everyone drunk except Clinton tonight?
posted by Yowser at 5:16 PM on July 28, 2016


Chaos is a ladder!

I love the Chaos is a Ladder + O'Malley references because it's like the Cockney Rhyming Slang of Metareference!

Danson and Mary Steenburgen showed a remarkable lack of charisma for trained actors.
posted by Justinian at 5:16 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


EEE GREENSBORO! Hey hometown boy!
posted by showbiz_liz at 5:16 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Ah, Grand Valley State is my partner's alma mater! A ten minute interlude to speak to our little house apparently.
posted by palindromic at 5:17 PM on July 28, 2016


Wow, Day 4 is a serious dropoff in energy. Sad!
posted by kirkaracha at 5:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


Dave Wills, who is a school teacher and has student loans.
Beth Mathias, she works two jobs and her husband works the nightshift at a factory in Ohio. Hillary met Beth at a roundtable in Marion.
Jensen Walcott & Jake Reed, who are equal pay advocates.

I have to walk the pupper so I will be back in a second - those are the next people up on the segments. Back in a second!
posted by winna at 5:17 PM on July 28, 2016


Is everyone drunk except Clinton tonight?

Drunk and also on day 3 of their hangover.
posted by Blue Jello Elf at 5:18 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Okey doaky, here's a picture of the hall where you can see how many delegates are Bernie or Busters. (They're in the reflective shirts.) It's a pretty small proportion of the delegates, but I bet they're the number 1 story in the news tomorrow.
posted by ArbitraryAndCapricious at 5:19 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


I'm a little surprised they're having Chloe Grace Moretz and Katy Perry right before Chelsea...I know Perry can get things pumped up if you're into pop! But Moretz seems a bit...I guess I really don't appreciate the way she talks about Kim Kardashian's choices and feel like perhaps she is a bit underseasoned in life so far. I wish there was an equivalent of the incredible woman who introduced the President last night.

Also, I saw Chelsea introduce her father a couple years back and she was not very energizing either.

I hope that intro video is really amazing, is I guess what I'm saying. (I had heard it was by Linda Bloodworth-Thomason rather than Shonda Rhimes but maybe that's wrong?)
posted by sallybrown at 5:19 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Bow ties are mistake, kiddo. Also welcome to capitalism.
posted by dis_integration at 5:20 PM on July 28, 2016


The energy was super high before I went out to buy vital supplies, like gin. Now it feels a bit... deflated.

I hope I didn't break the DNC.
#Narcissist #LearningFromTheTrumpsterFire #ItsAlwaysAboutMe
posted by Superplin at 5:20 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


I think it would have been impossible to maintain the momentum. That it was fabulous for 3 straight nights is amazing as it is. So yes, tonight's been blah so far but maybe it will be better later. I'm skeptical because Hillary isn't Obama. She's not going to be able to deliver a speech the way Obama does or even her husband does. But her speech will still kick Trump's ass, which is the main thing.
posted by Bella Donna at 5:20 PM on July 28, 2016


Clinton should have spoken last night, and then had this day devoted to mimosas and a light buffet.
posted by mrjohnmuller at 5:20 PM on July 28, 2016 [18 favorites]


Pizza Studio
Snapchat
Jensen

-I love it-

sexist wage disparity

-I fucking do not love it-

(these kids rock)
posted by sallybrown at 5:20 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


If anyone is worried about the amount of BoBs inside, this picture will make you feel better, I think.
posted by Tarumba at 5:20 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Aw nudging lil' Jake closer to the mic!!
posted by EatTheWeak at 5:21 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]




Bow ties are cool.
posted by biogeo at 5:21 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


The pizza snapchat kids were adorable!
posted by misskaz at 5:21 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Nah. Bow ties are cool.
posted by pemberkins at 5:21 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


oh come on jake you obviously know more about pizza
posted by entropicamericana at 5:21 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


I think a lot of the problem with tonight so far is the pacing being hurried. There's not a lot of zazzy music between the speakers and they seem a bit rushed? There's no time to get comfortable with them before they run off and another person walks on.
posted by sallybrown at 5:21 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Pennsylvania Governor Tom Wolf.

In other news it is still boiling outside.
posted by winna at 5:22 PM on July 28, 2016


I liked those kids
posted by maggiemaggie at 5:22 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


I agree, tonight of all nights should have been high impact, but it's super low key.
posted by SecretAgentSockpuppet at 5:22 PM on July 28, 2016


Libertarian Candidate Tries to Get Mitt Romney to ‘Feel the Johnson’

Whaddya need that for, Dude?
posted by tclark at 5:22 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Aw pizza kids!!! Pulling me back in!
posted by dog food sugar at 5:22 PM on July 28, 2016


Oh man those Jensen and Jake kids are adorable and fucking AWESOME. Love them.
posted by dersins at 5:23 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Now I understand why they installed the black lights.
posted by Superplin at 5:23 PM on July 28, 2016


The pizza kids did really well.
posted by theBigRedKittyPurrs at 5:23 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


She's not going to be able to deliver a speech the way Obama does or even her husband does. But her speech will still kick Trump's ass, which is the main thing.

Unless it's a massive dud, Clinton's speech may not matter too much:
After a week of rousing speeches, the pressure is on Hillary Clinton tonight. In our podcast today, however, Nate pointed out that the notability of a presidential candidate’s speech may not have much to do with whether he or she receives a convention bounce. In 1988, George H.W. Bush received one of the biggest bounces on record. But “it was the most perfunctory speech you can imagine,” Nate said, “where he was like, ‘I’m picking up the torch from Ronald Reagan, thousand points of light, blah blah blah, thank you.’ So I guess that means the expectations are low.”
posted by zombieflanders at 5:23 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


~*~ pizza studio kids 2024 ~*~
posted by telegraph at 5:23 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


Having these two podiums is ominous. Is this an empty chair gambit?

"The empty podium is you, America!"
posted by mrjohnmuller at 5:23 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


I thought the governor of the host state didn't come to the convention.
posted by kirkaracha at 5:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


When I left my last job I found out they hired a dude to do it at 20K more than they were paying me.

I hope they all get eaten by boll weevils.
posted by winna at 5:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [32 favorites]


Honestly, if you bought a few incubators, a day spent door-knocking would be a great way to hatch some poke-eggs

Until Tim Kaine calls you to tell you that hey hon, that's really running up the family data plan, ya gotta cut it out. But he won't take the charge out of your allowance. He's so proud of you.
posted by sallybrown at 5:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [35 favorites]


This guy could redeem his whole speech by saying, "And unlike Donald Trump, I am comfortable with my baldness."
posted by palindromic at 5:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


I hope the pizza kids have a great lawyer; firing people for discussing wages is illegal.
posted by ErisLordFreedom at 5:25 PM on July 28, 2016


I hope they do too, winna.

Those pizza kids, tho! Adorbs!
posted by Sophie1 at 5:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Maddow thinks the boringness of this day is a deliberate strategy.
posted by dis_integration at 5:26 PM on July 28, 2016


Now I understand why they installed the black lights.

That's just so you don't see Delta Force coming to take down the Bernie delegates who chant during her speech.
posted by Talez at 5:26 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Friend of mine is a Bernie delegate; he said he was going to buy a glowing shirt but someone else snatched it up sooner. Sounds like they didn't order very many.
posted by dw at 5:26 PM on July 28, 2016


Maddow thinks the boringness of this day is a deliberate strategy.

There's so much canny stuff going on at this event, I would absolutely believe that.
posted by LobsterMitten at 5:27 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


I love the Chaos is a Ladder + O'Malley references because it's like the Cockney Rhyming Slang of Metareference!

To explain: The Wire's Mayor Carcetti was believed to be a reference to then-Baltimore Mayor Martin O'Malley. The Mayor became MD Governor and then DNC speaker while the actor playing Carcetti took the role of the scheming Littlefinger on Game of Thrones, whose signature line is "Chaos is a ladder."
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 5:27 PM on July 28, 2016 [16 favorites]


I think Granholm is with us on the concern about the low key-ness.

(Gimme that red swing coat)
posted by sallybrown at 5:27 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Jennifer Granholm: Too Canadian to run for President!
posted by palindromic at 5:27 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Jennifer Granholm, former Governor of Michigan.
posted by winna at 5:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Finally, a speaker who had her coffee this morning!
posted by EatTheWeak at 5:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Now THIS lady is bringing the energy
posted by showbiz_liz at 5:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Is Maddow's thought that this is to make Clinton look like a stronger speaker? Or is it sort of square and older-fashioned in order to appeal to undecided Republicans watching?
posted by LobsterMitten at 5:28 PM on July 28, 2016


Granholm's delivery is...odd.
posted by dersins at 5:29 PM on July 28, 2016


AWW YEAH JENNIFER GRANHOLM RAISE THE ROOF
posted by Andrhia at 5:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Maddow thinks the boringness of this day is a deliberate strategy.

To what end?
posted by sallybrown at 5:29 PM on July 28, 2016


You ARE fierce - get it, girl!
posted by palindromic at 5:29 PM on July 28, 2016


the automobile ruined america, jennifer. and the planet, too.
posted by entropicamericana at 5:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Probably to make Clinton seem all the more amazing by comparison?
posted by telegraph at 5:30 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Don't want to upstage the main attraction.
posted by artdrectr at 5:31 PM on July 28, 2016


Granholm's delivery is...odd.

She has the verve of someone on some kind of magical illegal substance, but I know someone else who acts exactly like this without chemical help...some people just operate at a higher frequency.
posted by sallybrown at 5:31 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


"She has plans. Imagine that, actual plans. I must've missed that night at the Republican National Convention."
posted by winna at 5:31 PM on July 28, 2016 [11 favorites]


lol... "detailed plans, actually written down!" ... thank you for highlighting that.
posted by adamt at 5:31 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


"Detailed plans! Imagine that! I must have missed that night at the Republican Convention..." is a nice line.
posted by dersins at 5:31 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Donald Trump is in Iowa telling an audience how he wanted to hit people speaking at the DNC.
I am not making this up.
In particular he wanted to beat up a "little guy"


Donald Trump threatened to ‘hit’ several DNC speakers 'so hard' over their critical speeches
Some speculated that Trump had been referencing former New York mayor Michael Bloomberg as the “little guy,” who blasted the billionaire as a failed businessman on Wednesday.

Bloomberg is 5’8’’, which Trump would likely consider small, considering his “little” nickname for Marco Rubio, who is 5’10”.
posted by homunculus at 5:31 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Maddow thinks the boringness of this day is a deliberate strategy.

There's so much canny stuff going on at this event, I would absolutely believe that.


I was thinking that yesterday. Hillary isn't a great speaker, but a good speaker. I don't that she should follow a lot of the people from the first three days.
posted by bongo_x at 5:31 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Actually she kind of stumbled over her explanation and then cut to Granholm, so I think maybe it was yes, to make sure HRC isn't overshadowed. I assume that's why the real heavy hitters like Biden and Obama were last night.
posted by dis_integration at 5:31 PM on July 28, 2016


Jennifer Granholm is bringing all kinds of awesome.
posted by theBigRedKittyPurrs at 5:32 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


"Donald, you're so vain you probably think this speech is about you"
posted by zachlipton at 5:32 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


Finally, some mom jokes!
posted by carrienation at 5:32 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


HOW VAIN IS HE?
posted by biogeo at 5:32 PM on July 28, 2016


"Donald, you're so vain. You probably think this speech is about you."

It... it is?
posted by winna at 5:32 PM on July 28, 2016 [17 favorites]


"Ask not what I can do for my country. Ask what my country can do for me!"
posted by palindromic at 5:32 PM on July 28, 2016


That doesn't make sense, though -- after Michelle, Biden, Kaine, and Obama, it took nothing at all to set me off sobbing like a tired and hungry baby, and hyper-responsive to anything I saw or heard. Seems she'd save a powerhouse or two for tonight.
posted by mochapickle at 5:32 PM on July 28, 2016


She's the Social Studies teacher who runs the drama club in the middle school where Tim Kaine is vice principal.
posted by sallybrown at 5:32 PM on July 28, 2016 [30 favorites]


Loving Granholm's "You're So Vain" riff.
posted by zombieflanders at 5:32 PM on July 28, 2016


I bet you think this speech is about you

First genuine LOL of the DNC for me
posted by maggiemaggie at 5:32 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


The narrative about Trump stiffing small businesses is making me a little nervous. In 2008, Hillary's campaign wound up sorta doing the same thing.

Obviously it's different, because she's not running on her reputation as a businesswoman. And I remember there was fundraising run through BO's campaign to settle those debts. Anyone remember how it all shook out?
posted by feral_goldfish at 5:33 PM on July 28, 2016


Trump: "but... the speech is about me..."
posted by Two unicycles and some duct tape at 5:33 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


She's going in now, though.
posted by penduluum at 5:33 PM on July 28, 2016


OHANA BITCHES!
posted by Talez at 5:33 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


She's got the crowd hyped, that energy (regardless of what substance is or isn't providing it) is infectious.
posted by zombieflanders at 5:33 PM on July 28, 2016


Woah this vision of a socially and environmentally stable future made me feel as giddy as Bernie's speeches.
posted by Tarumba at 5:34 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


I love the Lilo and Stitch theme too - got to be deliberate right?
posted by LobsterMitten at 5:34 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


She's like a manic pixie dream girl version of Kes from Voyager.
posted by Diagonalize at 5:34 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


Was the "dreamer in Nevada" line a DREAM Act reference? If so, that was awesome.
posted by dersins at 5:34 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


I enjoy Clinton's speeches and I think she is talented compared to the vast majority of the population, but she is not someone who comes to my mind as a truly gifted orator compared to her husband or Obama or.. a lot of other people we've seen. I imagine they are setting it up so she isn't a giant letdown after some firebrand preceding her.
posted by gatorae at 5:34 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


This is weird. Dave Wills was my freshman year Resident Assistant at Grand Valley State. He also went to school with Petey Pablo, or that's what he said on the first day.
posted by pseudodionysus at 5:34 PM on July 28, 2016


Some speculated that Trump had been referencing former New York mayor Michael Bloomberg as the “little guy,” who blasted the billionaire as a failed businessman on Wednesday.

Bloomberg is 6" shorter than Trump, but about 100 times richer, so little depends on your perspective.
posted by dis_integration at 5:34 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


Jennifer Granholm folks. She will lite you up.
posted by Annika Cicada at 5:35 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


The other day people were asking where the female politicians with charisma were... that's how you do it.
posted by maggiemaggie at 5:35 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


You're So Vain... anyone under 30 years old, or not from the US, or who just doesn't care about 70's pop music, might not catch the reference.
posted by ErisLordFreedom at 5:35 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Just FYI to the non-Michiganders: Rick Snyder, the Michigan Governor who presided over the destruction of Flint's water system, followed Jennifer Granholm as Governor because she was term-limited from running again.
posted by palindromic at 5:35 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Doug Elmets, rich dude and former Reagan Administration official.
posted by winna at 5:35 PM on July 28, 2016


CACKLING
posted by showbiz_liz at 5:35 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Does anyone else have a terrible stomachache in anticipation of what the Bernie Bros have planned? I'm seeing some kind of dreadful street theatre/direct action around stolen votes. Their revenge.
posted by argybarg at 5:36 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Nothing as satisfactory as a Republican attacking Trump.
posted by Tarumba at 5:36 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


Was the "dreamer in Nevada" line a DREAM Act reference? If so, that was awesome.
Pretty sure, yes.

Yeaaaah, I know I am not the target audience, but I don't want to hear how great Ronald fucking Reagan was.
posted by ArbitraryAndCapricious at 5:36 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


This is my kind of republican.
posted by stet at 5:36 PM on July 28, 2016


"You're no not even Ronald Reagan."
posted by biogeo at 5:36 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Reagan dude: "I worked for Ronald Reagan. Donald Trump is no Ronald Reagan."

Yay?
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 5:36 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Some speculated that Trump had been referencing former New York mayor Michael Bloomberg as the “little guy,” who blasted the billionaire as a failed businessman on Wednesday.

But afraid to name him? Interesting. I don't remember Bloomberg making veiled references.
posted by bongo_x at 5:37 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Okay yes, big tent and all that, I understand that this is an infomercial for Hillary Clinton. But do I really have to hear people lionizing Reagan over here too?
posted by penduluum at 5:37 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Some speculated that Trump had been referencing former New York mayor Michael Bloomberg as the “little guy,” who blasted the billionaire as a failed businessman on Wednesday.

I figured he was talking about the guy with dwarfism because that's about the only man Trump might be brave enough to punch.
posted by peeedro at 5:37 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


I'm kind of cackling over the "Regan understood nuance" line.
posted by theBigRedKittyPurrs at 5:37 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Okay, but for real, Ronald Reagan was a garbage President, whose presidency is the inflection point for every terrible trend in America today.
posted by palindromic at 5:37 PM on July 28, 2016 [51 favorites]


"That's why this year I will vote for a Democrat for the first time."
posted by winna at 5:37 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Just a recollection on this night...

I was working at an ad agency in Portland Maine when Bill Clinton was first running for President. One of my clients was a hotel-owning couple and a campaign event was held at their property one night. The next morning, they hosted a small breakfast with the Clintons, inviting a few business leaders. They had a chance to see and interact with the Clintons for a few hours between the two events.

I was eager to hear what Bill was like, and although my clients were very favorably impressed ("amazingly charismatic and compelling"), what they really wanted to talk about was Hillary. They were bowled over by her "His wife is the brilliant one - in any fair world, she would be the one running." They couldn't stop raving about how brilliant she was, "the brains behind the man."

That was the first time I ever heard the name Hillary Clinton. I've lost touch with them but I've thought of their words so many times in the quarter of a century since. I raise a toast to them tonight for "calling it" and for putting her on my radar, it made me pay more attention to her early on.
posted by madamjujujive at 5:37 PM on July 28, 2016 [86 favorites]


Even though Reagan is burning in hell with Thatcher.
posted by stet at 5:37 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Granholm is FIERCE and bringing it! What is her role going to be in the next administration?
posted by Sophie1 at 5:37 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Great song, but Donald Trump is no Mick Jagger.
posted by feral_goldfish at 5:37 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Good for this guy. A true Corb Republican.
posted by biogeo at 5:38 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


Jennifer Pierotti Lim who is Director of Health Policy, U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the co-founder of Republican Women for Hillary.
posted by winna at 5:38 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Slate live blog shows California delegates with altered "LIAR" signs.
posted by ftm at 5:38 PM on July 28, 2016


My favorite Clinton speeches are when she's working with a Full Combo Meter and gives no shits if she comes off as angry or not. The Sacramento Foreign Policy Speech, for example. My favorite Clinton stage move is when she nods at applause and cheers like, "Yes, you're doing good. We're doing good, yes, this is correct."
posted by EatTheWeak at 5:38 PM on July 28, 2016 [11 favorites]


Laughed out loud at "You're no Ronald Reagan."

"Loyalty our country is more important than loyalty to party" ... "join me in voting for Hillary Clinton."

And ooo, they're bringing out a cluster of Republicans to say "I'm voting for Hillary," and explaining why. YAY!
posted by ErisLordFreedom at 5:39 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


'I'm gonna say "repeat" twice though'
posted by MCMikeNamara at 5:39 PM on July 28, 2016


the PEARLS. That is like a flashing red sign that says Moderate Southern Republican Who Is A Bit Uncomfortable With This Trump Fellow
posted by showbiz_liz at 5:39 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


"In Donald Trump's world it doesn't matter what my accomplishments are, it just matters how attractive I am on a scale of one to ten."
posted by winna at 5:39 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


I love Jennifer Pierotti Lim's eloquence.
posted by theBigRedKittyPurrs at 5:39 PM on July 28, 2016


I have so much respect for these Republicans who come out to support Hillary and publically reject Trump. I hate to see so much snark against them; they are doing a hell of a lot more for the progressive cause than the Bernie or Busters at the moment.
posted by gatorae at 5:39 PM on July 28, 2016 [69 favorites]


Man, our big tent sure is getting crowded.
posted by biogeo at 5:40 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


Okay yes, big tent and all that, I understand that this is an infomercial for Hillary Clinton. But do I really have to hear people lionizing Reagan over here too?

Can we please grok for a second that if you want the person you support to win, they will need at least some votes from people who don't see the world the way you do?
posted by dry white toast at 5:40 PM on July 28, 2016 [52 favorites]


Sam and Dave! "Hold On, I'm Comin" Nice.
posted by mattdidthat at 5:40 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Reagan dude: "I worked for Ronald Reagan. Donald Trump is no Ronald Reagan."

Yay?


I'll say yay. The republicans have been actively vilifying Hillary Clinton for 25 years. I know several California republicans that don't like Trump, but may end up voting for him because they can't stand Hillary. I don't agree with this guy, but I absolutely want moderate republicans to feel that it's okay to vote for Clinton in this election.
posted by ActingTheGoat at 5:40 PM on July 28, 2016 [22 favorites]


Dallas Sheriff Lupe Valdez.
posted by winna at 5:40 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


I appreciate Clinton's speaking style because her cautious professionalism paved the way for ladies like me to be wise-cracking assholes when we give public talks.
posted by palindromic at 5:41 PM on July 28, 2016 [15 favorites]


Lionizing the dude who refused to utter the word "AIDS" until 1987 is pretty messed up.
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 5:41 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


"Okay, but for real, Ronald Reagan was a garbage President"

This is the reason why we can't quite insult a Republican like another Republican can.
posted by Tarumba at 5:41 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Oh shit where did they find this woman, this is perfect
posted by showbiz_liz at 5:41 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


they are doing a hell of a lot more for the progressive cause than the Bernie or Busters at the moment.

My bike bag is doing a hell of a lot more for the progressive cause than the Bernie or Busters at the moment.
posted by Bella Donna at 5:41 PM on July 28, 2016 [14 favorites]


"Granholm is FIERCE and bringing it! What is her role going to be in the next administration?"

That's not exactly how I remember her delivery when she was gov here. And I think she'd make a darn fine SC justice. There's precedent for an ex-exec on the court.
posted by klarck at 5:41 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Just heard a (white) Sanders delegate accuse a (black) Clinton delegate of "sending us to the back of the bus."

I wonder if he was one of the fucksticks trying to block Rep. John Lewis from voting this morning.
posted by zombieflanders at 5:41 PM on July 28, 2016 [16 favorites]


I love that the thought "I want this sheriff's lipstick" just ran through my mind.
posted by sallybrown at 5:42 PM on July 28, 2016 [28 favorites]


Having been alive but not that political at the time, it was not a secret that Hillary was big part of Bill's presidency, I think that's where the hate started. Some thought she was running the show, some thought they did it together.
posted by bongo_x at 5:43 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Quick reminder that "Reagan Democrat" is shorthand for "white supremacist who hadn't yet got on board with the Republicans until Reagan made even more obvious what Nixon started".
posted by Pope Guilty at 5:43 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


From elsewhere "Hillary Clinton made a wish on a focus group and she sprung to life"
posted by showbiz_liz at 5:43 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


How come "we have to start listening to each other" always means "you have to start listening to me"?
posted by penduluum at 5:43 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Yes, violence is not the answer. That's a two-way street, Sheriff Valdez.
posted by mattdidthat at 5:43 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


Valdez: "The only way to serve your community is to know your community."
posted by mochapickle at 5:43 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


DPD is trying, no police dept. is near what my ideal looks like but eventually...maybe...But there's a LOT of work to do.
posted by Annika Cicada at 5:44 PM on July 28, 2016


Dallas Sheriff Lupe Valdez: "At least 4 tables had offered to pay for our meal. My girlfriend and I teared up."
posted by arcolz at 5:44 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


"Black Lives Matter" shouts during the Sheriff's moment of silence for police officers.
posted by TwoStride at 5:45 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


I wonder if he was one of the fucksticks trying to block Rep. John Lewis from voting this morning.

Whoa, wtf? Do you have a link for this?
posted by EatTheWeak at 5:45 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


"A moment of silence! What a perfect opportunity for some hollerin'!"
posted by contraption at 5:45 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Pretty shitty to heckle during a minute of silence.
posted by Tarumba at 5:45 PM on July 28, 2016 [23 favorites]


Just heard a (white) Sanders delegate accuse a (black) Clinton delegate of "sending us to the back of the bus."

You miserable, Buster twit. You do not get to appropriate Black suffering like that. Don't even. Just don't even. I am one super angry white lady former Bernie supporter.
posted by Bella Donna at 5:45 PM on July 28, 2016 [24 favorites]


Family members of police officers who have been killed are on stage.
posted by winna at 5:45 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Ugh, this is so fresh, with the fallen Dallas officers' families. Hurts. I can't imagine how they're feeling.
posted by missmobtown at 5:46 PM on July 28, 2016


So last night's speech was to shake the vulnerable-to-reason Republicans loose and the purpose of tonight is to sweep them all up, I see.
posted by sallybrown at 5:46 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


Fuckers.
posted by Splunge at 5:46 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


I grew up in dallas and as a teenager I was regularly harassed and assaulted by police because I was a young punk who looked different from the norm. I still have issues trusting police. I'm not gonna go into details here, but I'm trying on my side to recognize that DPD is trying and it is *hard* given my experiences growing up.
posted by Annika Cicada at 5:46 PM on July 28, 2016 [20 favorites]


Yeah, I think a lot of the evening so far is definitely aimed at reassuring White Straight Suburban America. Which is why it all feels pretty uninspiring to us hippie-pinko-internet wierdos.
posted by soundguy99 at 5:47 PM on July 28, 2016 [45 favorites]


winna, thank you for the links you've been providing for each of the speakers! I'm really appreciating the valuable context.
posted by arcolz at 5:47 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


Maybe also a moment of silence for Freddie Gray, Philando Castile, and just a few others, Sheriff Valdez?
posted by mattdidthat at 5:47 PM on July 28, 2016 [20 favorites]


God, the behavior of these BoB assholes is making me really retroactively regret supporting Bernie. This must be what reasonable thoughtful Republicans felt like when Tea Partiers starting acting like jackasses.
posted by Two unicycles and some duct tape at 5:48 PM on July 28, 2016 [26 favorites]


I know I'm old, but there's two things that can happen in November. Some folks need to decide which one they want, for real.
posted by ftm at 5:48 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


A moment of silence. Nice. Maybe a moment of silence for Freddie Gray, Philando Castile, and just a few others too, Sheriff?

Wasn't there one on Tuesday?
posted by showbiz_liz at 5:48 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


I really admire the work the DNC has done aiming each night to a different part of America. Not me. Us.
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 5:48 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Grandpa (?) looks so adorable.
posted by Tarumba at 5:49 PM on July 28, 2016


After 3 nights of just killing it, tonight has been brutal.
posted by Yowser at 5:49 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


As a hippy weirdo in the 70s, I get the point.
posted by Splunge at 5:49 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Maybe a moment of silence for Freddie Gray, Philando Castile, and just a few others too, Sheriff?

They had one on Tuesday. Black lives matter, and everyone deserves to be remembered.
posted by biogeo at 5:49 PM on July 28, 2016 [13 favorites]


I hear you Lupe, but you have to quit tolerating the assholes in your ranks if you want people to believe you. Democrats likewise.
posted by bongo_x at 5:50 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


This part is difficult for me to watch. The stories of the lost officers. The excellent parents discuss their excellent children lost while working in service to their communities.
posted by Oyéah at 5:50 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


There are a lot of police who get into the job because they are kind, noble, and want to help their communities. They want to protect and serve.

There are also a lot who get into it because they want to carry a gun and "beat up bad guys," and they relish the ability to define "bad guys" as anyone who annoys them.

Backlash against the police is likely to hit the first category more, because they're more likely to take calls into "iffy" areas, more likely to assess a situation before they start shooting.

I am saddened to hear about those who lost their lives; I would like to see reforms made in police departments to get rid of the second category that brings fear and hatred to the whole department.
posted by ErisLordFreedom at 5:51 PM on July 28, 2016 [17 favorites]


Be patient. Kareem is coming up.
posted by chaoticgood at 5:51 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Yeah, I know I'm not the target audience. I know the DNC needs to acknowledge the losses of both the Black community and the police, but the problem is the false equivalency. For public consumption it's presented as those losses are equal when they are anything but. So many Black people have died; as y'all know, there's a huge disparity. But that can't be acknowledged outright. Maybe not even implicitly. Which sucks so much.
posted by Bella Donna at 5:51 PM on July 28, 2016 [26 favorites]


I'll tell you this, several of the BLM people I follow on Twitter are not happy ATM.
posted by waitingtoderail at 5:51 PM on July 28, 2016


I just wish that it were a bit less "#notallcops" right now and emphasized more on "working to gain their communities' trust" or "working for more accountability" from these speakers as well.
posted by TwoStride at 5:51 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


I really admire the work the DNC has done aiming each night to a different part of America. Not me. Us.

This is a BIG ASS coalition. We're all going to have to give a little and even hold our noses. We've got to learn how to be better at being critical in a way that builds stronger bridges.

I've been cocky, bitchy, dismissive, self-righteous, mean. But *in* the tent, we gotta do it differently. Unfortunately the busters are about all but booted from the tent. They done fucked up their chances to be heard in this convention as far as I am concerned. Get on board or get off at this point.
posted by Annika Cicada at 5:52 PM on July 28, 2016 [24 favorites]


I don't live in Dallas so I shouldn't blame her for everyone else's actions though.
posted by bongo_x at 5:52 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


If you still on the Jill Stein train.
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 5:52 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Hm. All those glowshirts the Busters have on ... are they planning to try and spell something out in the crowd?
posted by EatTheWeak at 5:53 PM on July 28, 2016


Actually this is the first time I have stopped and allowed myself to feel compassion for the policemen.

It sounds awful but I was kind of forcing myself to avoid that, and it's like a little revelation that I can grieve for both sides and at the same time know that one side is at a vast disadvantage.
posted by Tarumba at 5:53 PM on July 28, 2016 [14 favorites]


I am pleased with this musical development.
posted by stet at 5:53 PM on July 28, 2016


"Meanwhile, Jill Stein says electing Hillary will usher in extremism like Nazi Germany"

Ugh.
posted by winna at 5:53 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


I'm working so haven't been able to stay on top of things throughout the day. Is the plan for all of those people in yellow shirts to shout over Clinton's speech? Because I'm really bad at watching people trying to humiliate others in public places, it makes me really nervous. Maybe I'll just keep working through the night.
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 5:54 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


HOLY SHIT hhahaahahahaha
posted by sallybrown at 5:54 PM on July 28, 2016


This is why it's so important that we reform the toxic "thin blue line" mentality in police culture. Good, honest people who were attracted to the job out of a sense of civic responsibility become genuinely complicit in the criminal abuses of those who use the job to act out their toxic power fantasies, and a wedge is driven between our humanity and theirs.
posted by biogeo at 5:54 PM on July 28, 2016 [14 favorites]


Ok, so that was a misstep. But I also know someone whose brother was a cop who was shot and killed in the line of duty (and who has posted a couple of things on Facebook in support of BLM, or at least against the idea that it's insulting to cops who died in the line of duty), and I sort of can't take the idea of being disrespectful to the families of murdered anyone.
posted by ArbitraryAndCapricious at 5:54 PM on July 28, 2016 [17 favorites]


Biff Tannen.
posted by box at 5:54 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Huh, interesting turn with the bullying video.
posted by theBigRedKittyPurrs at 5:54 PM on July 28, 2016


There's a bullying montage interspersed with Donald Trump video. It's amazing.
posted by winna at 5:54 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


Okay this makes up for everything so far.
posted by sallybrown at 5:54 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Hahaha Hahaha Trump you are a FUCKING BULLY
posted by Tarumba at 5:55 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


The bully montage is pretty effective.
posted by palindromic at 5:55 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


I have so much respect for these Republicans who come out to support Hillary and publically reject Trump. I hate to see so much snark against them; they are doing a hell of a lot more for the progressive cause than the Bernie or Busters at the moment.

Repeating for truth.

God, the behavior of these BoB assholes is making me really retroactively regret supporting Bernie. This must be what reasonable thoughtful Republicans felt like when Tea Partiers starting acting like jackasses.

The people I feel bad for right now are the Sanders supporters who wanted spots as delegates but didn't get 'em because they weren't fervent enough.
posted by scaryblackdeath at 5:55 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


I honestly love this. I don't see it as just pandering to Republicans at all, because - the vision these particular people are presenting of community-minded, compassionate police is exactly what we're trying to achieve, right? This isn't just saying "blue lives matter too!", it's changing the story about what police should be like.
posted by showbiz_liz at 5:55 PM on July 28, 2016 [26 favorites]


Video montage: Bullies in movies juxataposed with footage of Trump insulting people - R Lee Ermey in Full Metal Jacket!
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 5:55 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


This bully segment is good. Very good.
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 5:55 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Ow. That bullies montage... *sniff* right in the feels.
posted by adamt at 5:55 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


my god... they need to run the Bullying video in every ad slot they can buy.
posted by nathan_teske at 5:55 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


No clips from alternate-1985? I mean, that Biff IS Donald Trump.
posted by Taft at 5:55 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Reverend William Barber, president of the NC NAACP!
posted by winna at 5:56 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


God, the behavior of these BoB assholes is making me really retroactively regret supporting Bernie. This must be what reasonable thoughtful Republicans felt like when Tea Partiers starting acting like jackasses.

I know a lot of Republicans were embarrassed by the Tea Party. I'm understanding how they felt. (I don't regret supporting Bernie, but then the Busters haven't managed to insert an orange toddler into our process.)
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 5:56 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Donald Trump = Scott Farkus!

He had yellow eyes! So, help me, God! Yellow eyes!
posted by ActingTheGoat at 5:56 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


That bully video will go pretty well with Trump's rally where he threatened to punch people in the face.
posted by zombieflanders at 5:56 PM on July 28, 2016


He says he is not here on behalf of any organization, that he is here to speak about faith and morality.
posted by winna at 5:57 PM on July 28, 2016


Omg my god... they need to run the Bullying video in every ad slot they can buy.

Make it about three times as long. I volunteer as tribute to watch 80s movies to scan for relevant clips. That was GOLD.
posted by sallybrown at 5:57 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Oh he just delivered the most marvellously balanced sentence about how some people are talking so much about what god had talked about so little, but talked so little about what god had talked about so much. It was positively Elizabethan.
posted by winna at 5:58 PM on July 28, 2016 [60 favorites]


It hit me watching Hillary speaking with that girl who asked her about bullying -

Hillary wasn't just a candidate then. She was a mother thinking back to having had to have conversations about bullies with her daughter.

I want a hug
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 5:58 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


I think I'm just going to do whatever this guy tells me to do.
posted by stet at 5:58 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


He kind of has a Welsh accent, the way he pronounces "hungreh" or "merceh"
posted by Tarumba at 5:59 PM on July 28, 2016


I tuned in midway through but to me it looked more like a play for compassion within the community. Yeah, they could probably say we need to work with our community better but I'm hopeful that having compassion for each other implies that.
posted by JakeEXTREME at 5:59 PM on July 28, 2016


"Jesus, a brown-skinned Palestinian Jew..."
posted by biogeo at 5:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [52 favorites]


Well, see, this I can get behind. I love this man.
posted by penduluum at 5:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


"Jesus, a brown-skinned Palestinian Jew, called us to preach the good news to the poor."
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 5:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


"Jesus, a brown-skinned Palestinian Jew, calls us to minister to the poor, the broken, the helpless."
posted by winna at 5:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [23 favorites]


It is a good thing those other bullies are fictional characters and therefore cannot be insulted by being compared to Donald Trump.
posted by ckape at 5:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Jesus, brown skinned Palestinian Jew
posted by OmieWise at 5:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


So basically, we need to turn the entire rest of the DNC over to speakers from the black church rhetorical tradition.
posted by ArbitraryAndCapricious at 5:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [20 favorites]


That'll preach.
posted by palindromic at 5:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Palestinian!
posted by Scram at 5:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


I want Reverend Barber to be my life coach. This is incredible.
posted by mattdidthat at 5:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


"Jesus, [who was] a brown-skinned Palestinian Jew"

Looks like someone's deviating from the Texas School Board's approved texts.
posted by zombieflanders at 5:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [20 favorites]


Where is winna who is talking 😭
posted by Potomac Avenue at 5:59 PM on July 28, 2016


I want to give this man a favorite!
posted by maggiemaggie at 5:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


If anybody has a link to the bullying video
posted by cashman at 6:00 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]




"...They are right versus wrong". Hell, yes!
posted by theBigRedKittyPurrs at 6:00 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Oh look, you can have a religious speech that mixes bible verses and political documents and have major emotional impact without screaming at anyone!
posted by ErisLordFreedom at 6:00 PM on July 28, 2016 [21 favorites]


I see you Abe Lincoln look-a-like.
posted by sallybrown at 6:00 PM on July 28, 2016


It's still Reverend Barber, NC NAACP President! I am still here!
posted by winna at 6:00 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Oh, my.
 
posted by Herodios at 6:01 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


"WE ARE REVIVING THE HEART OF OUR DEMOCRACY."
posted by winna at 6:01 PM on July 28, 2016 [15 favorites]


Love the camera flash to the hipster with a man-bun and a lumberjack beard
posted by mattdidthat at 6:01 PM on July 28, 2016


I am like the most atheist and I might be tearing up a little bit
posted by showbiz_liz at 6:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [33 favorites]


This is the kind of preaching an atheist like me can get behind. I might even yell out an AMEN at the end of this one.
posted by zombieflanders at 6:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [30 favorites]


So basically, we need to turn the entire rest of the DNC over to speakers from the black church rhetorical tradition.

First amendment protection synergies.
posted by ethansr at 6:02 PM on July 28, 2016


Okay, hat tip to the DNC. Well-played, Mister Minister.
posted by Bella Donna at 6:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


I want to hug this man.
posted by ArbitraryAndCapricious at 6:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Rev. Barber is downright fierce. I love it.
posted by theBigRedKittyPurrs at 6:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


TAKE ME TO CHURCH AND TAKE ALL MAH MONEY!!!
posted by ramix at 6:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


PREACH
posted by rtha at 6:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


... Is that the first time non-Abrahamic religions have been mentioned in the convention(s) so far?
posted by ErisLordFreedom at 6:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


And those that have no faith! Thank you!
posted by ActingTheGoat at 6:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [38 favorites]


Rev Barber is one of the very best we have! He came to Atlanta to try to help us start our own Moral Mondays movement, and it was just amazing to hear him speak. I'm so glad he's there tonight.
posted by hydropsyche at 6:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Woot, where my atheists at?
posted by carrienation at 6:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [27 favorites]


Those who have no faith but they love this nation!!!
posted by telegraph at 6:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


I'm neither American nor a believer in God but man I could listen to this man all day...
posted by kanata at 6:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


This atheist has to do something about his problem with getting choked up at preachers and gospel songs.

"When we love the Jewish child and the Palestinian child..."
posted by OmieWise at 6:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [11 favorites]


For the first time in years I wish I was religious.

Also: loving Palestinian and Jewish children

Fuck me I have goosebumps
posted by Tarumba at 6:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Reverend, you have this atheist doing baptist hands and saying amen in her living room!
posted by pupperduck at 6:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


I love this guy so much.
posted by rabbitrabbit at 6:03 PM on July 28, 2016


Dang, I wasn't watching when the bully piece ran. That sounds really good. Are they posting the pre-recorded segments anywhere online?
posted by scaryblackdeath at 6:03 PM on July 28, 2016


I'm a lapsed Catholics and I'm about to do a praise shout here this is INCREDIBLE.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 6:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


These's some of that hippie nip I was missing
posted by MCMikeNamara at 6:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


I'm singing ~Daniel Webster eyes~ to the tune of Bette Davis Eyes for Rev. Barber.
posted by sallybrown at 6:03 PM on July 28, 2016


Progressive Christians are way better allies to atheists in the humanist tradition than the libertarian atheist bros that dominate online atheist discourse.
posted by palindromic at 6:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [71 favorites]


Acknowledgment of atheists! I love this Christian!
posted by biogeo at 6:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


Ok more quotes plz my toddler refuses to go to sleep she's filibustering til Hillary comes out probably
posted by Potomac Avenue at 6:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


Most of the convention center is on its feet now.
posted by winna at 6:03 PM on July 28, 2016


Love the shout out to people who have no faith but love their country. Like, even my tribe was included. How did he do that?
posted by Bella Donna at 6:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [14 favorites]


Hey! "...and those who have no faith, but they love this nation." Thanks, man!
posted by Don Pepino at 6:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


"We love the Palestinian child, and the Jewish child. And the Muslim. And the Buddhist. [...] And the child who has no faith."
Goddamn. Crying.
posted by Superplin at 6:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


Damn this guy is good.
posted by aspo at 6:03 PM on July 28, 2016


First callout to the atheists?
posted by LobsterMitten at 6:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


HEY thanks for the shoutout to atheists dude and I mean that sincerely
posted by showbiz_liz at 6:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [41 favorites]


These speakers are so persuasive, but I wonder how many people are watching who aren't already persuaded.
posted by DanSachs at 6:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Shout out to athiests!

Also, can this guy shut up the BernieBabbies?
posted by stet at 6:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


"Let me be clear that she nor any person can do it alone. The watchword of this democracy and the watchword of faith is WE."
posted by winna at 6:04 PM on July 28, 2016 [13 favorites]


I wish they wouldn't catch so many people yawning in the audience, yikes.
But much love to this minister!
posted by Glinn at 6:04 PM on July 28, 2016


"When we resist the proliferation of military weapons on our streets and when we break the stranglehold of the NRA we are reviving our democracy."
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 6:04 PM on July 28, 2016 [22 favorites]


"The watchword of democracy is 'we'"
posted by ashirys at 6:04 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Second callout to atheists this convention, btw.
posted by stet at 6:04 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


And upon posting, I am not the only athiest who is moved. Preach!
posted by pupperduck at 6:04 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


I never felt quite like this when I was actually a bona fide Southern Baptist.
posted by mochapickle at 6:04 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


The watchword of this democracy....is "we"
posted by OmieWise at 6:04 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


FOREMOTHERS AND FATHERS. Good God.
posted by mynameisluka at 6:04 PM on July 28, 2016 [19 favorites]


Reverend Barber, NC NAACP President, is my new official preacher. (I'm... an atheist, I guess? A "person with no religion" is probably more accurate. Not really the same.)
posted by Superplin at 6:04 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


Foremothers and fathers. Nice!
posted by stet at 6:05 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Can a not-especially-religious white dude join Rev. Barber's church? Asking for a friend.
posted by mattdidthat at 6:05 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


Well I've definitely never seen a convention speech that spoke so specifically to me, an atheist medical student.
posted by telegraph at 6:05 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


FOREMOTHERS
posted by mothershock at 6:05 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Speech of the day so far. I'm sold.
posted by Hairy Lobster at 6:05 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


I want the Reverend to get Donald Trump in a room alone with him and put the moral defibrillator on him
posted by missmobtown at 6:05 PM on July 28, 2016 [33 favorites]


THE MORAL DEFIBRILLATORS OF OUR TIME!!!
posted by soundguy99 at 6:05 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


"America has a heart problem."

"We are being called to be the moral defibrillators of our times."

"We must shock this nation with the power of love."

"We must shock this nation with the power of mercy"

"We must shock this nation with justice for all"
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 6:05 PM on July 28, 2016 [62 favorites]


Can we nominate HIM?
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 6:05 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


I will definitely go back and watch Rev Barber's speech again.
posted by ActingTheGoat at 6:05 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Atheists!
posted by phliar at 6:06 PM on July 28, 2016


We must shock this nation with the power of love. We must shock this nation with the power of mercy. [...] We cannot give up on the heart of this nation, not now, not ever.
posted by penduluum at 6:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


"Foremothers and forefathers"

I nominate this guy for official Clinton Hype Guy.
posted by zombieflanders at 6:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


"Oh he didn't mean literally 'stand up'" I say, sitting back down dejected.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 6:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Everyone who is LOVING this please check out Moral Mondays if you haven't already!!!!
posted by sallybrown at 6:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


Is there a Heart in the House?

Is there a Heart for the Poor?

Then Stand Up
posted by Secret Life of Gravy at 6:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


So I guess that's the answer to the "were they deliberately having boring speakers tonight?" question.
posted by ArbitraryAndCapricious at 6:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


Um. I'm with him. and her.

I'm nodding yes.

Oh god I love this man.
posted by Annika Cicada at 6:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


THIS IS INSANE. THIS IS SO GREAT. HALLELUJAH, SAYS THIS GIRL, WHO HAS NO FAITH BUT SHE LOVES THIS COUNTRY.
posted by We put our faith in Blast Hardcheese at 6:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [24 favorites]


god damn, that was electrifying
posted by mattdidthat at 6:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


HALLELUJAH!
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 6:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Hallelujah!

I want to post this speech on facebook
posted by maggiemaggie at 6:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


I am driving to North Carolina to see this man. I just can with his beautiful heart.
posted by Tarumba at 6:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


I think he just faith healed everybody's hangover.
posted by stet at 6:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


Tough act to follow, Kareem...
posted by Two unicycles and some duct tape at 6:07 PM on July 28, 2016


What did Rev. Barber say after "Hallelujah!"?
posted by carmicha at 6:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


"We can't give up on the heart of our democracy. Not now, not ever. And so I stop by here tonight to ask 'is there a heart in this house? is there a heart in America? is there somebody ho has a heart for the poor and the vulnerable?' Then stand up. Vote together. Organize together. And while you are doing that, sing that old hymn 'Fill each heart with Thy love; May each soul be rekindled. With fire from above. Hallelujah!"
posted by winna at 6:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [21 favorites]


seriously part of my brain just went hmm..maybe we can move to America and go to his church?
posted by kanata at 6:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


You guys I know this is like blasphemy but this is at least on par with both Obama speeches
posted by showbiz_liz at 6:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Damnit PCN, why have you broken to a commercial NOW????
posted by theBigRedKittyPurrs at 6:07 PM on July 28, 2016


#leaguepassalert
posted by Potomac Avenue at 6:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


This, too, is American Christianity.
posted by tivalasvegas at 6:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [37 favorites]


That was spectacular. That was so good it locked up my stream of the show.
posted by EatTheWeak at 6:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


OH SNAP
posted by Justinian at 6:07 PM on July 28, 2016


Oh shit, my face just melted from that burn!
posted by dirigibleman at 6:07 PM on July 28, 2016


Buuuuuuuuurn.
posted by mochapickle at 6:07 PM on July 28, 2016


Nice one Kareem.
posted by ZeusHumms at 6:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
posted by penduluum at 6:07 PM on July 28, 2016


oh snap
posted by mattdidthat at 6:07 PM on July 28, 2016


Kareem Abdul-Jabaar has a hard act to follow but I have faith in him!
posted by winna at 6:07 PM on July 28, 2016


LOL Michael Jordan! omg that was an amazing line.
posted by gatorae at 6:07 PM on July 28, 2016


Kareem Abdul Jabbar is up.

That podium looks tiny.

"I'm Michael Jordan and I'm here with Hillary."
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 6:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Oh Kareem!!! Trump couldn't tell the difference!
posted by phliar at 6:08 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Motherfucking shade from Kareem!
posted by OmieWise at 6:08 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


lol did the band just give him a literal rimshot?
posted by soren_lorensen at 6:08 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


I guarantee that no white atheist will be turned away from a church like that, though you may find the depth of friendliness too much to handle.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 6:08 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


Wow! That is some high-octane call-and-response!
posted by mhum at 6:08 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


He introduced himself as Michael Jordan; he said Donald Trump couldn't tell he and Jordan apart. BURN.
posted by winna at 6:08 PM on July 28, 2016 [15 favorites]


Its official: the Dems now hold the moral high ground on guns, gays, and God.
 
posted by Herodios at 6:08 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


Kareem's burn as unstoppable as the skyhook
posted by strange chain at 6:08 PM on July 28, 2016 [18 favorites]


Carmicha: I believe it was "power and the glory".
posted by penduluum at 6:08 PM on July 28, 2016


Heh. Kareem's dig @ Trump got a "bah-dum-dum" sting from the drummer. Nice.
posted by soundguy99 at 6:09 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


I'm torn because, on the one hand, yay protest and democracy and speaking truth to power and all that.

But these protestors have not been silenced. Their candidate was given a fair hearing and didn't get enough votes. Still, his surrogates were highly involved in building a platform that brought both camps together. The narrative that they were cheated or that the election was rigged is a false one.

And frankly, there are different optics at work when the candidate is someone who has been historically shut out of the presidential race - a black man, or a woman - and it's silly to ignore that. We've all acknowledged the racism underlying the obstructionist practices of the Republicans over the past eight years. Well, in the light of Gamergate and the long-time online harassment of women that has just barely started to be addressed, the idea of seeing the first woman Democratic Presidential candidate heckled and shouted down leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

And I mean, Hillary can take it. More than anyone else out there, she can take it. And anyone running for the Presidency has to accept criticism, no matter their race or gender. But I can't help how upset I'm preemptively getting at the idea of her getting spoken over - as if she just needs to sit down and shut up, and how dare she speak - and I really hope the protestors decide to quietly leave if they decide they need to make a statement somehow.
posted by Salieri at 6:09 PM on July 28, 2016 [32 favorites]


Jennifer Granholm folks. She will lite you up.

For extra Jennifer granholm fun you can watch her a day her ginormous hair on a late 70s Dating Game
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 6:09 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Started off a bit slow, but man, today is really hitting its straps with these last couple of speeches. All about pacing I guess.
posted by adamt at 6:09 PM on July 28, 2016


well I'm crying again
posted by Annika Cicada at 6:09 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


If anybody has a link to the bullying video

This is the footage from a campaign stop that makes up the second half of the video. It's just super cute that as soon as the girl says people are afraid her asthma is contagious, Hillary pulls her into a hug.
posted by peeedro at 6:09 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


Well, there goes my favorites limit for the day.
posted by biogeo at 6:09 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


"I'm Michael Jordan!"
 
posted by Herodios at 6:09 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Has there been any speaker at the DNC that didn't seem more genuinely qualified that Trump? I'd vote for Kareem over Trump if it came to it.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 6:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


So basically, we need to turn the entire rest of the DNC over to speakers from the black church rhetorical tradition.

In the book Parliament of Whores, P.J. O'Rourke wrote about Jesse Jackson's convention speech in 1988: "I did, however, want to hear Jesse Jackson's speech. He is the only living American politician with a mastery of classical rhetoric. Assonance, alliteration, litotes, pleonasm, parallelism, exclamation, climax and epigram -- to hear him is to hear everything mankind has learned about public speaking since Demosthenes. Thus Jackson, the advocate for people who believe themselves to be excluded from Western culture, was the only 1988 presidential candidate to display any of it."
posted by wenestvedt at 6:11 PM on July 28, 2016 [46 favorites]


Khizr Khan, who is the dad of Captain Humayun Khan, one of 14 Muslim servicemen who died while serving is about to speak. Hillary is explaining the situation in a video.
posted by winna at 6:11 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


I dunno, Pizza Boy probably isn't qualified to be President. I wouldn't go so far as to say he was less qualified than Trump though. About equal.
posted by Justinian at 6:11 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


now I'm hard crying
posted by Annika Cicada at 6:11 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


I'd vote for the pizza kids over Trump in a heartbeat, and they don't even meet the formal qualifications.
posted by ArbitraryAndCapricious at 6:11 PM on July 28, 2016


Right there with you, Salieri. Talking over Clinton is just a terrible look.
posted by Superplin at 6:11 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


I'd vote for Inanimate Carbon Rod over that fascist buffoon.
posted by phliar at 6:12 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Has there been any speaker at the DNC that didn't seem more genuinely qualified that Trump?

Nope.

Including the speakers under 21.
posted by soundguy99 at 6:12 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


These stories I mean this I know this is politics but honestly it's making me think about life and how much pain and love there is in the world.

I love it
posted by Tarumba at 6:12 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


oh gosh I think it was low key earlier because I'm going to need all my tears for this
posted by sallybrown at 6:12 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Just saw (on the PBS/NPR feed) a young Muslim woman (in hijab) holding up an iPhone that had a No Trump sign on the screen. Behind her, a middle-aged white guy was shoving some sort of pizza/bread/packaged food product into his mouth.

it seems like a metaphor for something i dunno what
posted by tivalasvegas at 6:12 PM on July 28, 2016 [14 favorites]


How much longer until Hillary speaks? I'm supposed to be in class for another 3.5 hours tonight but fuck a whole lot of that, I still have wine and like half of last night's rotisserie chicken left and I need more speechifyin'. Bail on class in like 45 minutes?
posted by palomar at 6:12 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Anyone else stuck backstage? I'm not seeing MJ on the Demvention live feed....
posted by danapiper at 6:12 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


I'd vote for Kareem over Trump if it came to it.

He is actually the co-author of several historical accounts of black experience - he is an intelligent man and would be far better at it.
posted by winna at 6:12 PM on July 28, 2016 [23 favorites]


DNC2016 twitch stream is doing a backstage promo while the PBS Newshour stream is up.
posted by Talez at 6:12 PM on July 28, 2016


Time to get out the tissues.
posted by Altomentis at 6:12 PM on July 28, 2016


I missed all of the previous speakers and basically just got here, and dammit I will be watching this whole thing while following along on the thread tomorrow, won't I?
posted by kalimac at 6:13 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


What did Rev. Barber say after "Hallelujah!"?

It looks like it was "Thine the glory".
posted by jammer at 6:13 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


That 1988 Jackson speech was fantastic. I recorded it on VCR and watched it several times.
posted by OmieWise at 6:13 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


I'm stuck backstage too.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 6:13 PM on July 28, 2016


KRISTEN SCHALL!!!!!
posted by EatTheWeak at 6:13 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Khizr Khan's parents are giving a heart breaking speech.

I was waiting for the Muslim speakers and this is perfect.
posted by Tarumba at 6:13 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


Yeah, I missed Kareem on the DNC live stream. Youtube seems to be on track though.
posted by Hairy Lobster at 6:13 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Actually both parents of Captain Khan are there. They both look so moved and sad.
posted by winna at 6:14 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Can someone link to the actual convention????
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 6:14 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


I see some of you don't know Reverend Barber. Get to know Reverend Barber.
posted by zennie at 6:14 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Wait who are you guys seeing, I am only seeing a youtube video
posted by showbiz_liz at 6:14 PM on July 28, 2016


I'm already gone, guys. That video. What good people.
posted by mochapickle at 6:14 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


What's up with the YouTube stream? I'm not seeing what you guys are seeing.
posted by ArbitraryAndCapricious at 6:14 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


How much longer until Hillary speaks?

About an hour per C-SPAN.
posted by zachlipton at 6:14 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Youtube feed
posted by entropicamericana at 6:15 PM on July 28, 2016


Something in my eye now...
posted by Splunge at 6:15 PM on July 28, 2016


Okay, got it.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 6:15 PM on July 28, 2016


This feed is working for me
posted by biogeo at 6:15 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


PBS News Hour live stream.
posted by Talez at 6:15 PM on July 28, 2016


omg kristen schall of course you got a sick burn on me through my laptop and i loved every moment
posted by telegraph at 6:15 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


CSPAN Feed
posted by mynameisluka at 6:15 PM on July 28, 2016


We are watching the YouTube stream and seeing the current feed.
posted by Altomentis at 6:16 PM on July 28, 2016


Youtube and Twitch just got a backstage video instead of the stage feed, I think. Watching Cspan now.
posted by JauntyFedora at 6:16 PM on July 28, 2016


The DNC Youtube stream panned through the audience and definitely caught some white dudes in suits wiping away tears as Mr. Khan started speaking.
posted by soundguy99 at 6:16 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Heh. Kareem's dig @ Trump got a "bah-dum-dum" sting from the drummer. Nice.

Oh, I missed that, SG. Beautiful. Professional courtesy.
 
posted by Herodios at 6:16 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Thanks biogeo - the demconvention feed was only giving backstage stuff.
posted by EatTheWeak at 6:16 PM on July 28, 2016


Thanks for the info on Rev. Barber's closing words. I have a friend in NC who is heavy into Moral Mondays and she loves him.
posted by carmicha at 6:16 PM on July 28, 2016


Have you ever read the US constitution? Boom!
posted by Splunge at 6:16 PM on July 28, 2016 [26 favorites]


This is in the top 5 most important moments of this convention. Soldiers who give their lives for us can be Muslims. Candidates for President can put a proud and grieving American mother in a hijab on the convention stage in primetime before their acceptance speech, because this is America.

Fuck you Donald.
posted by sallybrown at 6:16 PM on July 28, 2016 [78 favorites]


ohhhhh shiiiiiiiiit son
posted by entropicamericana at 6:16 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Nice burn, Mr. Khan.
posted by ZeusHumms at 6:16 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


I love Mr. Khan.
posted by mochapickle at 6:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


I love the way this guy points.
posted by AFABulous at 6:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


OH FUCKIN SNAP LET ME LEND YOU THIS COPY OF THE CONSTITUTION DONALD IT IS RIGHT HERE IN MY POCKET
posted by tivalasvegas at 6:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [73 favorites]


HOLY SHIT.
posted by mynameisluka at 6:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Pocket Constitution FTW
posted by zombieflanders at 6:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


Oh god damn Mr. Khan, you just knocked it out of the park.
posted by mattdidthat at 6:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


PULLING THE CONSTITUTION OUT OF HIS POCKET i am dead
posted by misskaz at 6:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


I love this guy.
posted by Splunge at 6:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


In a much quieter way just as powerful as Barber's speech.
posted by Hairy Lobster at 6:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


Oh snap, pocket Constitution.
posted by peeedro at 6:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Holy shit. Mr. Khan is amazing.
posted by Mister Fabulous at 6:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


Oh man, the pocket Constitution, another thing conservatives will be convinced was stolen from them.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 6:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


If you're missing this, please go to a feed that lets you rewind because it is amazing.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 6:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


I'm getting chills listening to Khizr Kahn.
posted by theBigRedKittyPurrs at 6:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Mr. Khan suggested that Trump should read the constitution, for those wondering the nature of the sick burn!
posted by winna at 6:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


He seemed nervous to begin with but he's starting to channel that pastor
posted by AFABulous at 6:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Rev. Barber's speech blew my mind. I take back my low energy comment from earlier tonight.
posted by SecretAgentSockpuppet at 6:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


I am about to lose my ever-loving shit here. What an incredible man.
posted by mynameisluka at 6:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


I don't see how Mr. Khan is keeping it together doing this. I certainly couldn't.
posted by mollweide at 6:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


"You have sacrificed nothing."
posted by Room 641-A at 6:18 PM on July 28, 2016 [21 favorites]


"Donald Trump, have you even read the Constitution? I will lend you my copy. In this document, look for the words "liberty" and "equal protection under the law."
posted by jamaro at 6:18 PM on July 28, 2016 [13 favorites]


"You have sacrificed nothing!! And no-one!!"
posted by soundguy99 at 6:18 PM on July 28, 2016 [53 favorites]


Boom!
posted by Splunge at 6:18 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


"Donald Trump, you have sacrificed nothing and no one!"
posted by maggiemaggie at 6:18 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


I've got my copy right here.

Man, the amateurs are killing. KILLING.
 
posted by Herodios at 6:18 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


I have to say that the Clinton fundraising campaign emails are coming in right at the sweet spot of these amazing speeches and wine consumption.
posted by JennyJupiter at 6:18 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


phearlez: "Jeb ruined his chances at the presidency when he burned through a massive amount of money in the primary for (and forgive me for stealing a 30 year old Dennis Miller gag here) the same number of delegates that I landed and I didn't even run."

PEDANTRY: Jeb! won three delegates.
posted by Chrysostom at 6:18 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Tears.

Thank you, Mr. Khan. Wow.
posted by zarq at 6:18 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


Khizr Khan: "Donald Trump, you're asking Americans to trust you with their future. Have you even read the United States Constitution?" *pause* "I will gladly lend you my copy..."

"...have you ever been to Arlington cemetery?"

"You will see all faiths, genders and ethnicities...and you sacrificed nothing."
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 6:18 PM on July 28, 2016 [42 favorites]


As a nerdy kid who carried around a copy of the U.S. Constitution around in his pocket while taking Government in high school, I love this guy.
posted by biogeo at 6:18 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Crying now.
posted by Splunge at 6:19 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


I'm a bit glad that this is the last day of the convention, because I've been wiping away way more tears than is normal for me this week, and I'm guessing it's not great for my skin.

Whoever is orchestrating the DNC is really good at hitting the heatstrings. And good on them.
posted by figurant at 6:19 PM on July 28, 2016


You have sacrificed nothing!
posted by filthy light thief at 6:19 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Ted Lieu, Congressman from California.
posted by winna at 6:19 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Y'all. Y'ALL.

That speech Reverend Barber just gave? That incredible speech. I just heard that my college roommate helped write that speech. Her voice--the voice of a 33-year-old civil rights attorney, daughter and step-daughter of civil rights attorneys, daughter of a queer woman, step-daughter of a scientist, disabled woman, child who grew up poor in North Carolina and Virginia--was in that speech too. There is so much of America in that speech. So much of beautiful, complicated, strong America.

(No, I haven't stopped crying yet.)
posted by hippugeek at 6:19 PM on July 28, 2016 [129 favorites]


Bail on class in like 45 minutes?

Ditch now, pick up extra kleenex on the way home.
posted by soundguy99 at 6:20 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Ted Lieu: "Good evening. I wasn't born in America. But every day I serve this nation."
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 6:20 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


It's hard to scroll and cry.
posted by cairnoflore at 6:20 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


and cut to... David Brooks
posted by tivalasvegas at 6:20 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


So incredibly powerful, what dignity that couple had, what a powerful rebuke. My God.
posted by madamjujujive at 6:20 PM on July 28, 2016 [28 favorites]


"Every able commander I've ever met knows you can't do it alone, you can't be brash, and you can't make stuff up. Because if you do, people will die."
posted by winna at 6:21 PM on July 28, 2016 [16 favorites]


y'all make me feel like a cynical, dead-inside, repressed monster because although i have been moved, i haven't been close to misty-eyed this whole convention, much less cried
posted by entropicamericana at 6:21 PM on July 28, 2016


oh man my feed cut out at a key moment there. but what an incredible speech. i can't even.

also holy shit, this guy. 'when you ignore the facts, people die.'
posted by dismas at 6:21 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Thanks for the info on Rev. Barber's closing words.

Glad to help, although I inadvertently shared the wrong URL. At first I thought it was "find the glory", but it looks like he was quoting from THIS hymn. I thought the other was less ugly link, and didn't realize it was a different hymn. D'oh!
posted by jammer at 6:21 PM on July 28, 2016


OK, I had to step out to go pick up my car with its new radiator, so I missed my governor, but I got here for Khan. And I have guacamole! Let's do this.
posted by rewil at 6:21 PM on July 28, 2016


But wait! Donald knows more about ISIS than ANYONE!
posted by Splunge at 6:21 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


General John Allen retired Marine, former commander of the International Security Assistance Forces and commander in Afghanistan and a whole bunch of other people!
posted by winna at 6:22 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Still not a fan of U-S-A chants, but I know this isn't for me.
posted by zombieflanders at 6:22 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


YouTube is current now. Keeping several tabs open is helpful. I'll catch everything after Rev. Barber tomorrow.
Very grateful for the link!
posted by TrishaU at 6:22 PM on July 28, 2016


General Allen has a posse.
posted by soundguy99 at 6:22 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Hot damn, Mr. Khan just totally knocked me out. Most powerful moment of the convention for me.
posted by dry white toast at 6:22 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


Never say that a Marine is a former Marine, by the way. It makes them irritable.
posted by winna at 6:23 PM on July 28, 2016 [11 favorites]


Yeah the USA shit bothers me too.
posted by Splunge at 6:23 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


He almost started crying at the "USA" chant.
posted by biogeo at 6:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Guys, I'm not going to lie, I started the GIN-GHAZI!!! consumption early, and it is a good punch.
posted by palindromic at 6:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


Still not a fan of U-S-A chants

After that pocket constitution moment I am willing to grant a ten-minute dispensation on the chanting of USA-USA-USA.
posted by tivalasvegas at 6:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [25 favorites]


Wow. The Kahn's were amazing.

i haven't been close to misty-eyed this whole convention, much less cried


I'm like Bill, at the drop of a hat. But weirdly not at the things everyone else here does.
posted by bongo_x at 6:24 PM on July 28, 2016


I don't think this guy is using amplification actually.
posted by strange chain at 6:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [11 favorites]


SHUT UP!
posted by Splunge at 6:24 PM on July 28, 2016


Stop it.
posted by waitingtoderail at 6:24 PM on July 28, 2016


General Allen has a posse

An army, you might say.

/I know, he's a Marine.
posted by jamaro at 6:24 PM on July 28, 2016


Ted Lieu is my guy! He's got to fill the shoes of Henry "The Mustache of Justice" Waxman but he's got 40 years to do it.
posted by Room 641-A at 6:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Hippugeek, that is AMAZING. Tell your friend a stranger in Arizona thinks she's the bee's knees.
posted by Superplin at 6:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


"Jaw-droppingly powerful," says Andrew Sullivan.
posted by argybarg at 6:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


At first I thought the drumming was a bit cheesy, but then _so_ many of them came out on stage. A real tour de force.
posted by adamt at 6:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


PBS comment after Mr. Khan spoke: if you were asked which convention was more patriotic, it would be DNC. If you were asked which convention were more diverse, it would be DNC. The Democrats have taken ground that the Republicans have abandoned.
posted by filthy light thief at 6:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [25 favorites]


"Our precious Muslims"
posted by mynameisluka at 6:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


They are chanting USA to cover up other chants, I think.
posted by sallybrown at 6:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


Oh it's to drown out no-more-war, I see
posted by showbiz_liz at 6:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


"Precious Muslims!" "Gender orientation!"
posted by stet at 6:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


The USA chants bug me but I'll never tire of a military dude stumbling over the words "sexual orientation" but still meaning it.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 6:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [31 favorites]


WHAT!!! "Every gender! And every gender orientation!"

(uhhhhh.....HOLY CRAP that was pretty awesome)
posted by Annika Cicada at 6:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [30 favorites]


I wonder if the USA chanting is partly to drown out some of the Buster chanting like Leon Panetta got yesterday?
posted by Blue Jello Elf at 6:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Several speakers have said "all genders" or "every gender" instead of "men and women," which is different and meaningful.
posted by AFABulous at 6:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [43 favorites]


It's odd to me that the Dems are better at chanting USA than the Republicans were. I thought the Republicans would at least kick our ass at that. But nope.
posted by Bella Donna at 6:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


(And huge stakes for all! Even the vegetarians! Huge veggie stakes!)
posted by filthy light thief at 6:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Are they U-S-A people trying to drown out another chant? That's the only thing I can think. I wish they'd come up with a different chant if that's what they're doing. I associate that one with obnoxious sports fans.
posted by ArbitraryAndCapricious at 6:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Yeah the USA shit bothers me too.

Yeah, its creepily jingoistic. Sounds like they're doing it to drown out "No more war" chants.

OTOH, I guess this segment is red meat for swing voters. Necessary evil, I guess?
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 6:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Oh!! YouTube has closed caption! Yes!
posted by TrishaU at 6:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


COME TOGETHER, MAGGOTS!
posted by showbiz_liz at 6:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [23 favorites]


I love the accidental support for non-binary people :-) I'll take it!
posted by Annika Cicada at 6:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


I want Kahn back.
posted by Splunge at 6:26 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


A amazingly stark contrast with the Trump rally going on right now:
Trump says "waterboarding" - and the crowd here in Iowa starts cheering loudly. Man yells, "Waterboarding! Yeah!"
posted by zombieflanders at 6:26 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


I am a little concerned the General's gonna make the delegates drop and give him 20.
posted by soundguy99 at 6:26 PM on July 28, 2016 [39 favorites]


If you were asked which convention were more diverse, it would be DNC. The Democrats have taken ground that the Republicans have abandoned

when in the last hundred years have the Republicans been more diverse

tell me the date PBS

tell me the date
posted by tivalasvegas at 6:26 PM on July 28, 2016 [18 favorites]


Oh, chanting USA is a clever way of dealing with protesters. I like it. Good job, majority of delegates!
posted by Bella Donna at 6:26 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


Here's a GIF of Khizr Khan pulling the Constitution out of his pocket and totally owning Donald Trump.

If I was American I would get a fucking tattoo of this picture.
posted by dry white toast at 6:26 PM on July 28, 2016 [13 favorites]


Okay, my fire tv stick just conked out so we're flying into the heart of darkness while it reloads!
posted by winna at 6:26 PM on July 28, 2016


Good. ISIS mentioned. Now what Trump?
posted by Splunge at 6:26 PM on July 28, 2016


This is creeping me the f out.
posted by waitingtoderail at 6:27 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


The General is doing pretty well at ignoring the chants, but the woman over his left shoulder is getting pretty pissed...
posted by FlyingMonkey at 6:27 PM on July 28, 2016


I guess I get it, but I wish it were possible to do this kind of thing without all the American exceptionalism. I mean, it's possible to be patriotic but recognize that we're not necessarily the greatest nation on the face of the earth. We do some things very well and some things incredibly poorly. "Greatest nation on earth" doesn't give us much room to improve, but we've got plenty.
posted by Two unicycles and some duct tape at 6:27 PM on July 28, 2016 [14 favorites]


The USA Chants are to drown out the No More War folks!
posted by ramix at 6:27 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Getting real sick of Busters heckling every armed services rep that takes the stage.
posted by EatTheWeak at 6:27 PM on July 28, 2016 [14 favorites]


The chanters were chanting "no more war" about a general trying to talk about peace and diplomacy, so...
posted by carrienation at 6:27 PM on July 28, 2016 [40 favorites]


This man doesn't look like someone that big gruff voice should be coming out of, and that big gruff voice doesn't sound like one you expect to hear championing all genders. My brain-eye-ear coordination is falling all over itself here.
posted by phunniemee at 6:27 PM on July 28, 2016 [14 favorites]


I'm ok with chanting "No More War"
posted by maggiemaggie at 6:27 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


In addition to drowning out the no more war people, they also seem to be breaking out into USA chants when he talks about all of us, and lists off minorities. I think that's an appropriate time for a USA chant if ever there was one.
posted by Weeping_angel at 6:27 PM on July 28, 2016 [18 favorites]


You can tell that General Allen was a professional shouter.
posted by filthy light thief at 6:27 PM on July 28, 2016 [20 favorites]


so the one time I was in a crowd chanting U-S-A, as far as I can remember, was during the world cup that time the US men's team almost did well for a second. And now this was not the standard context where you get a bunch of U-S-A chants — it was at a bar in Seattle's gayborhood and probably most everyone else felt as uncomfortable chanting it as I did, but nonetheless it was an exhilarating thing to chant. I felt like I had been for a second plugged into some massive dark power, bigger than me, flowing through me, taking me up and carrying me in it.

it's a hell of a chant.
posted by You Can't Tip a Buick at 6:27 PM on July 28, 2016 [13 favorites]


Re: defeating ISIS

I guess I am much more ideologically vulnerable than I thought because I have this urge to buy a support the troops sticker now.
posted by Tarumba at 6:27 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


I am a little concerned the General's gonna make the delegates drop and give him 20.

Just the Bernie Busters.
posted by Bella Donna at 6:27 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


i know this speech is meant to appeal to the undecided fascists out there, but it still skeeves me out,
posted by entropicamericana at 6:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


It might have helped to find someone a bit less shouty.
posted by argybarg at 6:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


I mean I'm totally sure he can take it.
posted by maggiemaggie at 6:28 PM on July 28, 2016


This guy could hold his own against R. Lee Ermey in a military-off.
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 6:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


Bella Donna: "I am a little concerned the General's gonna make the delegates drop and give him 20.

Just the Bernie Busters.
"

As if they could.
posted by Splunge at 6:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


The last hour has been awesome! That reverend made this atheist Jew scream Amen. Mr. Khan was so powerful. "You have sacrificed nothing, and no one!" That is the truth!
posted by Sophie1 at 6:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


"USA!"

"No more war!"

"You can't fight in here. This is the war room!"
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 6:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


i know this speech is meant to appeal to the undecided fascists out there, but it still skeeves me out,

lol what
posted by thefoxgod at 6:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


This is a bad choice. Not the speech just the screaming bro.
posted by Potomac Avenue at 6:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


ugh cspan's feed won't open for me and youtube keeps crapping out. y'all gonna have to help me.
posted by dismas at 6:29 PM on July 28, 2016


Getting a Strangelove feel here.
posted by Splunge at 6:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


The general had to move the mic out of the way because the PA was making his voice less powerful.
posted by bongo_x at 6:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [24 favorites]


I like the USA chants. I live here, I love this place. My people, these people, deserve to chant their love. This isn't some sports event, it's a celebration of America and American politics. The chant is appropriate.
posted by OmieWise at 6:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [14 favorites]


Yeah, I hate these generals calling for world peace. (????)
posted by biogeo at 6:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [46 favorites]


I wish the big crowd on stage could express that they don't trust Trump to lead them, without making proclamations about foreign policy.
posted by acidic at 6:29 PM on July 28, 2016


No more nukes! Just revitalized nukes! Smaller and smarter, and really, really expensive!
posted by filthy light thief at 6:30 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Holy shit.

I think he just showed trump how you do it?
posted by Annika Cicada at 6:30 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Wow. Sucked. Very much. Fuck him.
posted by Splunge at 6:30 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


When the former commander of all the forces in Afghanistan says that the military will no longer carry out torture, that's pretty fucking huge.
posted by hollygoheavy at 6:30 PM on July 28, 2016 [50 favorites]


This speech had to be given. It's just one of scores. But conservatives need to hear this. This guy is destroying Donald Trump's wimpy "Only I can keep you safe" diatribe.
posted by vverse23 at 6:30 PM on July 28, 2016 [24 favorites]


The "to our enemies" line was a bit too far
posted by mrzarquon at 6:30 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Someone should mash up the General's "no torture" with Trump's "waterboarding".
posted by CheeseDigestsAll at 6:30 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


i know this speech is meant to appeal to the undecided fascists out there, but it still skeeves me out,

There's a literal fascist movement which is currently at the wheel of the GOP so let's maybe be super-careful about using that word correctly.
posted by Pope Guilty at 6:30 PM on July 28, 2016 [32 favorites]


And our bodily fluids.
posted by Splunge at 6:30 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


SIR, YES SIR
posted by dry white toast at 6:30 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


I teach a lot of servicemembers. They are far more nuanced and diverse in their perspectives than I would have thought before I started. I'm ashamed of my previous stereotyping.
posted by mollweide at 6:30 PM on July 28, 2016 [54 favorites]


Hey guys. This shouting speech by the General isn't intended for you.
posted by Mister Fabulous at 6:30 PM on July 28, 2016 [15 favorites]


Ugh you all, there has to be some kind of middle ground between believing that military adventurism is terrible but also that military personnel are not personally responsible for the existence of war.
posted by winna at 6:31 PM on July 28, 2016 [38 favorites]


MY FELLOW AMERICANS

*thump* *thump* *thump*

HILLARY CLINTON ALONE MOVES THE WHEELS OF HISTORY!
posted by You Can't Tip a Buick at 6:31 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Did I hear people chanting "Peace on Earth?"
posted by maggiemaggie at 6:31 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


uhhh this is a bit much

USA chant permission is rescinded

let us now return to our regularly scheduled celebration of love and mutual respect
posted by tivalasvegas at 6:31 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Well, the end of Obama's speech was hella jingoistic as well. Ask me how I feel about American exceptionalism. No, really, don't. It's like the cod liver oil my mom gave me occasionally as a child. I figure it comes with the territory. Don't like it but it's part of the package. Alas.
posted by Bella Donna at 6:31 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Move on up!
posted by downtohisturtles at 6:31 PM on July 28, 2016


He sure denied Trump his essence.
posted by Two unicycles and some duct tape at 6:31 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


omg Bill saying "That's my girl!" in the backstage promo is the sweetest thing ever <3
posted by stolyarova at 6:31 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


I grew up in a Navy family and as a child I vowed to be the "very first girl" at the Naval Academy. My life (and beliefs) went in a very different direction but I am so awed that, in just my lifetime, we have gone from no women allowed to attend the military academies to a retired general enthusiastically endorsing a woman as the commander in chief. Change, it does happen.
posted by mcduff at 6:31 PM on July 28, 2016 [33 favorites]


I don't know, I think a very strategic cooperative bodily dismemberment of ISIL is richly deserved. The usual caveats and concerns apply, of course.
posted by argybarg at 6:31 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


This was definitely a...mixed call for world peace, let's say. Sadly, it's also probably the most realistic portrayal of American foreign policy we'll get from either convention. World peace and diplomacy for some, explosions for others!
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 6:31 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


"We must be...increasingly on the alert to prevent them from taking over other mineshaft space, in order to breed more prodigiously than we do, thus, knocking us out in superior numbers when we emerge! Mr. President, we must not allow...a mine shaft gap!"

/Strangelove
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 6:31 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


maggiemaggie, that's what it sounds like to me as well
posted by FlyingMonkey at 6:31 PM on July 28, 2016


There's a literal fascist movement which is currently at the wheel of the GOP so let's maybe be super-careful about using that word correctly.

Yeah I listened to the whole speech and I can't understand what was "fascist" about it unless you're using it in the "I didn't like it" sense some people do.

This is a good year to use the word when it actually means something. Trump is promoting fascism.
posted by thefoxgod at 6:31 PM on July 28, 2016 [11 favorites]




Yeah, okay. I'm good with like half of that. I'm surprised it was approved as is. I do get that it might bring some people over who want some of that.
posted by bizzyb at 6:32 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Did the RNC have a Medal of Honor recipient on stage?
posted by zakur at 6:32 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


This is what is fucking pissing me off about the Busters. It doesn't actually matter what the people are saying, only who they are. They are a perfect example of pseudo-engagement, refusing to go any deeper than the shallowest understanding of what the process is and what these people are communicating.
posted by biogeo at 6:32 PM on July 28, 2016 [64 favorites]


Do we have to boo and shout "no more war" at veterans?
posted by all about eevee at 6:32 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


man that general was definitely veering off into #lolamericans territory for the rest of the world...
posted by modernnomad at 6:32 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Florent Groberg, retired US Army Captain and Medal of Honor Winner.
posted by winna at 6:32 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


This is when chanting is a total dick move.
posted by argybarg at 6:33 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


All these Bernie Bros chanting no more war should volunteer at a refugee resettlement agency and maybe they'll realize that all of those refugees would be dead were it not for military intervention.

In some cases neutrality is tantamount to complicity. The US military can fuck up, but no more war is such an oversimplification and would leave so many people vulnerable.
posted by Tarumba at 6:33 PM on July 28, 2016 [84 favorites]


My problem wasn't the speech it was inevitable buster chanting and chaos. Optics of that play badly on tv. Eh. It's over now. This vet is killing it.
posted by Potomac Avenue at 6:33 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Did the RNC have a Medal of honor recipient on stage?

They got Scott Baio which is almost the same thing.
posted by Justinian at 6:33 PM on July 28, 2016 [26 favorites]


The dumbest fucking idiot I've encountered so far:
We appointed George Washington because he was known and dumb enough to control. Imho Trump is the way to go. His opinions don't matter if Congress doesn't write insane laws.

If presidents were involved in military decisions I would agree

The title doesn't mean anything when you listen to your cabinet and nod
Someone slept through civics.
posted by Talez at 6:33 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


The busters are going to make my message totally irrelevant. I'm a social democrat. I want about 90 percent of what the busters want, I'm just not going to be an asshole about it in the wrong room.
posted by Annika Cicada at 6:33 PM on July 28, 2016 [40 favorites]


Hey guys. This shouting speech by the General isn't intended for you.

Josh Barro on Twitter: The DNC is co-opting Republican tropes while maintaining Democratic ones because there is now only one political party for grown-ups.


DNC is a big tent event, in the best way possible. It's not the perfect party for all time, but it's the right party for this time.
posted by filthy light thief at 6:33 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


"The invisible wounds that lead to suicide."
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 6:34 PM on July 28, 2016 [11 favorites]


Assholes. Is that Code Pink?
posted by persona au gratin at 6:34 PM on July 28, 2016


Chloe Grace Moretz just gave me whiplash.
posted by penduluum at 6:34 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Since I live very close to Fort Lewis/McChord AFB, many of my neighbors wear uniforms. I disagree with war, but I admire the men and women who serve.
posted by Altomentis at 6:34 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Chloe Grace Moretz, an actress whom I do not know but she does not appear old enough to drive. She is adorbs.
posted by winna at 6:35 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


This is not a millenial. This is some kinda Pokemon generation after Millenials.
posted by Potomac Avenue at 6:35 PM on July 28, 2016 [30 favorites]


by the way, for those having feed trouble, try this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omOJvwlcvRc
PBS NewsHour via YT. Live with lookback.
posted by FlyingMonkey at 6:35 PM on July 28, 2016


Tarumba: In some cases neutrality is tantamount to complicity.

I'm out of favorites, can someone spot me?
posted by biogeo at 6:35 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


Someone slept through civics.

And also hasn't read literally anything by people who've actually dealt with Trump. He's got an infamously short attention span and is absolutely not the sort of person to just let experts speak and take their advice.
posted by Pope Guilty at 6:35 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


I need a good "Hit-Girl" joke on my desk, stat.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 6:35 PM on July 28, 2016


This is not a millenial. This is some kinda Pokemon generation after Millenials.

I'm 33. Pokemon is my god damned generation and I've got the Game Boy and carts to prove it.
posted by Talez at 6:35 PM on July 28, 2016 [35 favorites]


So, I was listening while driving home and had some time to think about what Reverend Barbour said. I wish he would have said "atheists, humanists, those who don't practice organized religion," instead of "those without faith." But he didn't. And I'm okay with that, because for the first time, people who don't practice religion were given a place at the table.

I AM SEEN.
posted by cooker girl at 6:36 PM on July 28, 2016 [34 favorites]


Pokegen
posted by longdaysjourney at 6:36 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Pokepeople
posted by longdaysjourney at 6:36 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


In some cases neutrality is tantamount to complicity.

This works for international diplomacy AND elections. But don't try to convince the -or-Busters.
posted by tclark at 6:36 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


I don't know. There are so many Americans who are told they aren't REALLY American, for so many bigoted reasons, and many of those people are in that convention hall. Republicans shouldn't be allowed to have a stranglehold on patriotism or being a "real" American.
posted by girlmightlive at 6:36 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


Chloe Grace Moretz an actress whom I do not know but she does not appear old enough to drive. She is adorbs.

Hit Girl!
posted by ActingTheGoat at 6:36 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


some kinda Pokemon generation after Millenials

Generation Jigglypuff?
posted by tivalasvegas at 6:37 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


I'm ready for the DNC to eject the bernholes. Just do it already, the fallout will be irrelevant and soon forgotten.
posted by Mister Fabulous at 6:37 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


oh my GOD I love this slightly gravely voice
posted by sallybrown at 6:37 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


SHERROD BROWN MY DUUUUUUUUUDE!!!!!
posted by soundguy99 at 6:37 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


I hate to quote 'Little Marco' but 'Let us dispell once and for all' this myth that the military respect only Republicans.
posted by sfts2 at 6:37 PM on July 28, 2016


For you 30 rock fans, she was Jack Donaghy's nemesis.
posted by cmfletcher at 6:37 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


Senator Sherrod Brown from OHIO!

We were supposed to get Xavier Becerra after Ms. Moretz - wonder what happened?
posted by winna at 6:37 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


My Senator!!
posted by cooker girl at 6:37 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


My nephew is on a Marine Corps scholarship to a military college right now. It has been his lifelong dream to serve. I can't say that there was no familial side-eyeing along the way, but he is seriously the most amazing, compassionate, awesome kid. He's Korean-American, and a staunch Democrat from a family of staunch Democrats. As a party, we do contain multitudes.
posted by soren_lorensen at 6:37 PM on July 28, 2016 [61 favorites]


My problem wasn't the speech it was inevitable buster chanting and chaos.

One narcisstic personality disorder deserves another, I suppose, right up to and including taking their toys home in a huff because it has gone unrecognized that they are the center of their pocket moral universes. Trump or Buster, what's the difference ?
posted by y2karl at 6:38 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


"what's an Ash Ketchum?" --that actress, a Pokewomon
posted by Potomac Avenue at 6:38 PM on July 28, 2016


I went away and came back - has the live feed been shunted to videos and play-by-play by comedians rather than the actual speeches?
posted by LobsterMitten at 6:38 PM on July 28, 2016


"Donald Trump believes wages are too high. And he wants to be president?"
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 6:39 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


UNION SUIT MOTHERFUCKERS.

listen to the man in the union suit.
posted by You Can't Tip a Buick at 6:39 PM on July 28, 2016 [11 favorites]


Fun fact; Mansfield, Ohio (Sherrod Brown's home town) is where The Shawshank Redemption was filmed. Sadly the tree blew over in a recent windstorm. Although located on private property, it had become a tourism attraction along with other iconic locations from the movie. /TIL
posted by carmicha at 6:39 PM on July 28, 2016


Not looking forward to Clinton's speech being made over competing chants between Busters and everyone else. I would like to actually hear her speech. Ugh.
posted by thefoxgod at 6:39 PM on July 28, 2016


I'm ready for the DNC to eject the bernholes. Just do it already, the fallout will be irrelevant and soon forgotten.

I'm pissed at them too, but I think they need to be allowed to stay and do their obnoxious thing. Democracy is messy and ugly sometimes, and this is part of it. Tolerating their shit reflects well on the DNC.
posted by biogeo at 6:39 PM on July 28, 2016 [11 favorites]


What brand of suit is he wearing and how do I buy it??
posted by delight at 6:39 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Nope right now Sherrod Brown is talking.
posted by winna at 6:39 PM on July 28, 2016


Shout out to Archbold, OH!!!! <3
posted by hollygoheavy at 6:39 PM on July 28, 2016


In some cases neutrality is tantamount to complicity.

Abstaining from voting is as much an action as voting. Staying silent is as much a statement as speaking up.
posted by filthy light thief at 6:40 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


"The only thing I've seen Donald Trump do about US trade policy is run his mouth and line his pockets."
posted by winna at 6:40 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


yeah where can I get a union suit, for reals?
posted by You Can't Tip a Buick at 6:40 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


I love this intense pride in home state manufacturing centers.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 6:40 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]




Thats a very different Union Suit that I know.
posted by mrzarquon at 6:40 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


was "millionaires like him" an on-purpose burn?
posted by EatTheWeak at 6:41 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Sherrod Brown: "Donald Trump supports trillions of tax cuts for millionaires like himself."

Low-key net worth burn!
posted by arcolz at 6:41 PM on July 28, 2016 [17 favorites]


uuugh. the feed i was watching cut to some weird backstage stuff. im on the youtube feed now and it seems to be working, but from the thread it looks like i missed some good speakers.
posted by mrjohnmuller at 6:41 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


The twitch feed is showing infomercials, but MSNBC is Sherrod
posted by Roommate at 6:41 PM on July 28, 2016


For you 30 rock fans, she was Jack Donaghy's nemesis.

I also discovered she was the knife-throwing girl in an episode of My Name is Earl.
posted by dirigibleman at 6:41 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]



Abstaining from voting is as much an action as voting. Staying silent is as much a statement as speaking up


Absolutely. And this year, abstaining gives the message: "I may not be _for_ fascism, but I'm OK with it."
posted by thefoxgod at 6:41 PM on July 28, 2016 [26 favorites]


Another "millionaire" reference. There's something satisfactory in knowing it irritates the hell out of Trump every time.
posted by Mister Fabulous at 6:41 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


Trumpbusters LOL
posted by mattdidthat at 6:41 PM on July 28, 2016


Ok, where can I buy a Trumpbusters t-shirt?
posted by Gaz Errant at 6:42 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Talez: This is not a millenial. This is some kinda Pokemon generation after Millenials.

The first person I saw "in the wild" playing Pokemon Go was in his late 40s to early 50s. The original games came out in 1996. There is no Pokemon Generation, Pokemon is bigger than that.
posted by filthy light thief at 6:42 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


"We reject that term Rust Belt!"

topical since we just had that thread about not using 'flyover country'.
posted by winna at 6:42 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


“Our international relations will not be reduced to a business transaction … our armed forces will not become an instrument of torture" is a pretty good sentiment. the rest of it i have mixed feelings about! but frankly i have mixed feelings about most things related to national defense!

the problem is that we live in a country where the electoral structure has a two-party equilibrium, and one party is embracing a message of racist garbage. and to make that clear, the democrats are trying to build an electoral coalition that ranges from people who would normally describe themselves moderate republicans to bernie sanders.

and so there's going to be this weird dissonance for everyone, i think. to draw an analogy to something i do know a little about, i don't agree with the bernie wing on trade or monetary policy. but i know that i don't get to make decisions by fiat. the party i belong to is not mine, it's ours. but i understand why some of general allen's message is a hard pill to swallow, and why people need to stand up and make their voice heard the way they feel like they can.
posted by dismas at 6:42 PM on July 28, 2016 [11 favorites]


omg that lady's Ohio glasses. Yes.
posted by phunniemee at 6:42 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


This is one of the best anti-Trump arguments the DNC has put forward. I'm entranced.
posted by figurant at 6:42 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Roomie From Brussels came home during Rev. barbour's speedh and has been looking in now and then, and we had an amusing exchange during the general's portion -

GENERAL - the rest of the world looks to us to preserve peace and freedom!

RFB - .....well.....

ME - yeah, I agree, but he's a four-star general, it's how he rolls.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 6:42 PM on July 28, 2016 [16 favorites]


Cspan has been rock solid.
posted by SecretAgentSockpuppet at 6:42 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Pokemon is big tent, like the Democratic Party.
posted by Stynxno at 6:43 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


Frankly, I'm furious that I'm dreading listening to Clinton's historic speech because of the chanting. Some of us have waited a long time for this (both metaphorically and literally). Don't they care what she has to say? Can't they boo and protest after they, you know, hear the speech?
posted by carrienation at 6:43 PM on July 28, 2016 [16 favorites]


(oops, wrong thread)

No it's okay here too, in a weird example of convergence
posted by tivalasvegas at 6:43 PM on July 28, 2016


Sherrod Brown is the real deal.
posted by persona au gratin at 6:43 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


I found it oddly charming for the four-star general to shout about the importance of WORLD PEACE while promising to punish our enemies. He was…trying? I guess? "Liberals like peace. I'll promise peace OR ELSE, they'll love that"
posted by a fiendish thingy at 6:43 PM on July 28, 2016 [30 favorites]


Do you think it's unintentional they call him a millionaire? Like maybe they know the billionaire line is bullshit to the point that it's not even worth making hay over?
posted by Annika Cicada at 6:44 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


During some of the lulls I'm going through the WaPo annotated transcript of Trump's insane speech from yesterday.

The guy is not merely insane he is a bombastic asshole. You know who really needs a fart-in aimed at him? Yeah Trump. I don't know how the press can stand to be in the same room with him for more than a few minutes but I would I would love them forever if they would shut the doors and all of them let fly with the trouser music. What a wonderful moment of mortification that would live on in history. Can you imagine, "Gather round kids and let me tell you about the time a bunch of reporters chased a nasty fascist off the campaign trail by farting at him."
posted by Secret Life of Gravy at 6:44 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Oh man, I want Tim Kaine and Sherrod Brown to do a road trip.

In a station wagon.
posted by mrzarquon at 6:44 PM on July 28, 2016 [17 favorites]


Oh, Rep. Becerra. I was really hoping for him in the veepstakes.
posted by donatella at 6:45 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Do you think it's unintentional they call him a millionaire? Like maybe they know the billionaire line is bullshit to the point that it's not even worth making hay over?

It's a good way to tweak him.
posted by ZeusHumms at 6:45 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


My pick for VP! Buckle up y'all. Berreca is dope.
posted by Potomac Avenue at 6:45 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


"We reject the term Rust Belt!" -- (MeFi's own?) Sen. Sherrod Brown
posted by Room 641-A at 6:45 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


This is really shrewd politics by the Democrats. They recognize the opportunity being created by Trump dragging the GOP so far to the right, leaving a lot of sane Republican supporters to be wooed.
posted by dry white toast at 6:45 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


I type with my hands!
posted by Tarumba at 6:45 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Who was looking for Becerra? He's on now.

Nice shout out to the cleaning staff, caterers & other convention staff to start with...
posted by FlyingMonkey at 6:45 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


Representative Xavier Becerra from California, House Democratic Caucus Chairman!

He opened by suggesting we thank all the service workers who are helping to make the convention a success, which is a lovely thing to do.
posted by winna at 6:45 PM on July 28, 2016 [39 favorites]


"Liberals like peace. I'll promise peace OR ELSE, they'll love that"

And what's the best way to get peace?
posted by phunniemee at 6:45 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


"makes a living with your hands" had the lowest amount of cheers

Sadly those folks can't afford to go to the DNC.
posted by mrzarquon at 6:45 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


Another "millionaire" reference. There's something satisfactory in knowing it irritates the hell out of Trump every time.

Poking him relentlessly like this over the next few months is probably a good strategy - I'd imagine it is THE strategy.
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 6:45 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


delight: "What brand of suit is he wearing and how do I buy it??"

Based on my brief googling, my guess is that it's a Hart Schaffner Marx suit. They're part of W Diamond Group which bought a union plant in Brooklyn, OH and Hart Schaffner Marx is their main suit brand. Also, it's what Obama wears.
posted by mhum at 6:45 PM on July 28, 2016 [16 favorites]


No, I think it is very deliberate. As is the consistent messaging that Trump does more to destroy American businesses then to build them up.

(Still irate that Trump came to Pittsburgh and talked about re-opening the steel mills. Thanks dude, I think the city has managed to reconstruct itself just fine without any help from you).
posted by theBigRedKittyPurrs at 6:46 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


> "makes a living with your hands" had the lowest about of cheers

Sadly those folks can't afford to go to the DNC.
posted by mrzarquon at 6:45 PM on July 28 [+] [!]


yeah I was like "oof, working class fail there guys."
posted by You Can't Tip a Buick at 6:46 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


The dignity of manual labor is important! If we were all sitting around doin spreadsheets then things would get horrible and gross really quickly.
posted by winna at 6:46 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


donatella: Oh, Rep. Becerra. I was really hoping for him in the veepstakes.

Me, too! I still hold out hope: he's pretty green right now, which I gather is the main reason he wasn't in the short list. Definitely someone to watch, though.
posted by Superplin at 6:46 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


omg the dems are going to neg trump all the way to the white house
posted by murphy slaw at 6:47 PM on July 28, 2016 [11 favorites]


Now shit's just getting stupid.
posted by Talez at 6:47 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


California represent!
posted by persona au gratin at 6:47 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Do you think it's unintentional they call him a millionaire? Like maybe they know the billionaire line is bullshit to the point that it's not even worth making hay over?

He can always release his tax records if he doesn't like it.
posted by Artw at 6:47 PM on July 28, 2016 [21 favorites]


> Oh man, I want Tim Kaine and Sherrod Brown to do a road trip.

Wait, and Xavier Becerra also.
posted by mrzarquon at 6:47 PM on July 28, 2016


"Liberals like peace. I'll promise peace OR ELSE, they'll love that"

Si vis pacem, para bellum is the watchword of the day I guess. Hey, if it gets some votes from the middle sure why not. Conventions are a giant advertisement.
posted by Justinian at 6:47 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


I'm still just not able to move on from the Khan family.
posted by sallybrown at 6:47 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


CA-34 represent!
posted by JauntyFedora at 6:48 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


If we had kindergarten for 4-year-olds in the 1980s, my little sister would have been born a year and a half sooner. My parents could only afford daycare for one kid at a time.
posted by showbiz_liz at 6:48 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Past couple nights been off/on watching. I'm emotionally exhausted just from what I have caught, like Rev. Barber, the Khans. (Did my ex-gov actually say earlier, "Donald, You're so vain, You probably think this speech is about you"? LOL)

On top of, I'm kind of nervous for Hillary's speech. As good as everything looks on our new TV, I might take a break for a movie. Keep me informed mefi.
posted by NorthernLite at 6:48 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Our Fight Song

I want a list of everyone in it, because so many faces looked familiar but didn't click to names before someone else was on the screen.

ETA: don't read the comments.
posted by ErisLordFreedom at 6:48 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


(Still irate that Trump came to Pittsburgh and talked about re-opening the steel mills. Thanks dude, I think the city has managed to reconstruct itself just fine without any help from you).

That whole speech was like, "I read three sentences of a wikipedia article about Pittsburgh once a few years ago maybe." He also was like "Hey, Joe Paterno, amirite!" lol awkward, dude.

And yeah, like, look around you dude. We tore those mills down quite some time ago. They're gone. We're doing fine. We like being able to breathe and see the sun at mid-day.
posted by soren_lorensen at 6:49 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


He can barely twit there's no way Trump wrote a C paper.
posted by Tarumba at 6:49 PM on July 28, 2016


LONG FORM TAX RETURN!
posted by stet at 6:50 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


I want a list of everyone in it, because so many faces looked familiar but didn't click to names before someone else was on the screen.

That would be the first line of yesterday's post. ;)
posted by Talez at 6:50 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Talez: Now shit's just getting stupid.

That is juvenile and I'm sure will get a disproportionate amount of press coverage, but I prefer it to chanting over her historic speech.
posted by Superplin at 6:50 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Make America Grey Again
posted by oneswellfoop at 6:50 PM on July 28, 2016


"Hillary Clinton wants to build schools
Donald Trump wants to build walls"
posted by FlyingMonkey at 6:50 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]




CBSN commentator just said Trump was better than Clinton on terrorism. Um, Hillary was in the room with the head honchos when Osama bin Laden got shot in the face. Trump's done fuck all.
posted by Cookiebastard at 6:52 PM on July 28, 2016 [21 favorites]


Becerra quips that Truno wouldn't know how much a gallon of milk costs, which reminds me of this bit from 30 Rock:

Jack Donaghy: "Let's just say you're at the market buying potatoes, and that ten pound bag of potatoes costs... four hundred dollars. But then the... grocery concierge tells you that a five pound bag of potatoes costs four hundred dollars, well that would be shocking, right? Because a five pound bag should only cost two hundred dollars."
posted by arcolz at 6:52 PM on July 28, 2016 [19 favorites]


"Now shit's just getting stupid."

It's an extinction burst. They are acting up before they fizzle out.
posted by Tarumba at 6:52 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


Remember when so few people ran against Clinton, people were like "the Dems have no shortlist"? I think we're seeing it
posted by showbiz_liz at 6:52 PM on July 28, 2016 [11 favorites]


You fucking idiots with hiLIARry signs, Bernie is not going to be president, get over it, unless you want President Trump
posted by mattdidthat at 6:52 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]




I'M GOING TO PERFORM A STUNT GUYS
posted by mynameisluka at 6:53 PM on July 28, 2016


I know that the busters are going to fuck up this cue card thing.
posted by mrzarquon at 6:53 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


Oh geez, this sounds like too many instructions!
posted by Glinn at 6:53 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


They're explaining to the audience how they will do their elaborate card stunt with the blacklight business.
posted by winna at 6:53 PM on July 28, 2016


So they're going to mess up the card stunt.
posted by rewil at 6:53 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Oh God this is too many instructions. LOL
posted by sallybrown at 6:53 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


ok, nobody pull crap with the card stunt. I hope they have good people on this.
posted by pointystick at 6:53 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


#cardstunt
posted by dismas at 6:53 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


A card stunt? One more thing for the Busters to mess with.
posted by arcolz at 6:53 PM on July 28, 2016


Everyone please pay close attention to the complicated card stunt rules.
posted by paper chromatographologist at 6:53 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


We got movie sign ^h^h^h card stunt sign!
posted by the uncomplicated soups of my childhood at 6:53 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


It's a good thing I'm not there because when someone tells me not to open something, must open it. Card stunt FTW!
posted by cooker girl at 6:53 PM on July 28, 2016


omg, I'm excited for this card thing.
posted by longdaysjourney at 6:53 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]




Pretty sure this card stunt is gonna be the DNC's botched balloon drop.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 6:53 PM on July 28, 2016


A card stunt? With this crowd? This is a bad idea.
posted by Gary at 6:53 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


Oh god I can't wait for the card stunt now hoooooooo boy
posted by majuju at 6:53 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


A multistep card stunt?

THAT SEEMS RISKY
posted by EatTheWeak at 6:53 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


"Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball."
posted by carrienation at 6:53 PM on July 28, 2016 [15 favorites]


Some kind of coordinated photo-op? What are the Busters going to do with it...
posted by biogeo at 6:53 PM on July 28, 2016


insert tab a into slot b and then consult table c column 82 before you
posted by entropicamericana at 6:53 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


I'm assuming the networks cut away from these very detailed instructions
posted by showbiz_liz at 6:54 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


That was weird.
posted by uosuaq at 6:54 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


The DNC feed has absolutely fascinating cut of audience instructions on "card stunt". This oughta be good.
posted by Skorgu at 6:54 PM on July 28, 2016


I have to say that there's no way I would be able not to open my instructions and read them in advance because I'd be terrified of doing it wrong.
posted by winna at 6:54 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


I have no fucking clue what they're supposed to do.
posted by dirigibleman at 6:54 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Haha, card stunt directions. "We promise you will not miss the balloon drop."
posted by lovecrafty at 6:54 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


Apparently we are about to enter the Katy Perry segment of the evening!
posted by winna at 6:54 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Why is Siri giving instructions?
posted by snickerdoodle at 6:54 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


You will not miss the balloon drop.
posted by the uncomplicated soups of my childhood at 6:54 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


If you design a card trick for an audience, you've got to design it assuming at least 10% will get it wrong.
posted by CheeseDigestsAll at 6:54 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


(This is reminding me that I heard a piece on the logistics of floor leaders and signs on NPR this afternoon.)
posted by mynameisluka at 6:54 PM on July 28, 2016


They're instructing the audience on how to perform the "card stunt" and to flash their phones for Katy Perry #Stagecraft
posted by carmicha at 6:54 PM on July 28, 2016


This is the weirdest pre-flight safety instruction ever.
posted by stet at 6:54 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


HI KATY.

I wish she rode out on a giant golden calf like at the Super Bowl.
posted by Justinian at 6:54 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Instructions needed more Sigourney Weaver.
posted by ZeusHumms at 6:54 PM on July 28, 2016


I'm way too drunk to do a card stunt. Thank goodness I'm at home.
posted by palindromic at 6:54 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Please let there be dancing sharks!
posted by peeedro at 6:54 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Ms. Perry is attired like a disco ball, which is an interesting look.
posted by winna at 6:54 PM on July 28, 2016


Uhhh.... DNC people... I'm not sure a picture of a guy with the white piece of paper with the eyes looking through it with the top of the paper naturally curling back was the best idea...
posted by Talez at 6:54 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Supposedly a bunch of Bernie people are going to walk out during Hillary's speech
posted by mattdidthat at 6:55 PM on July 28, 2016


Its a giant photo of Bernie Sanders
posted by mrzarquon at 6:55 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


Yeah, if I'd been there I'd've been in the bag under my seat fucking up the card stunt as soon as the 8,000 steps of instructions began with "DO NOT OPEN THE BAG UNDER YOUR SEAT YET" or something like that.
posted by TwoStride at 6:55 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


This is my first exposure to Xavier Becerra. Love the Guadalajara shout-out, love all the references in this convention to immigrants from all over the world. Love the cheers every time someone mentions a specific union hall. Love how much Spanish has been spoken. Representation matters.
posted by ActingTheGoat at 6:56 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


"Or you can just cancel out your weird cousin's vote."
posted by phunniemee at 6:56 PM on July 28, 2016 [14 favorites]


Oh jesus if I was on the floor I'd be in such a panic. "Wait WHAT WAS STEP 2 AGAIN?!?!?"
posted by Annika Cicada at 6:56 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


Katy Perry can do no wrong.
posted by gatorae at 6:56 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Uhhh.... DNC people... I'm not sure a picture of a guy with the white piece of paper with the eyes looking through it with the top of the paper naturally curling back was the best idea...

Yeah I'm really skeptical of this idea.
posted by joedan at 6:56 PM on July 28, 2016


So the yellow shirt people are going to wave their LIAR signs? That will be the only thing the Salt Lake Tribune mentions about the convention for today. The Guardian will post the ugliest pictures of Hillary they can find and mutate. So what? It is annoying but it is politics.
posted by Oyéah at 6:56 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


That was a honey trap, no?
posted by mollweide at 6:56 PM on July 28, 2016


Katy wins, Katy wins, Katy wins [weeping].
posted by acidic at 6:56 PM on July 28, 2016


Oh, she's going to sing. I feel like Dean Pelton when he realized Britta was in the play.
posted by Justinian at 6:56 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


If she dropped into "Shake It Off" right now in the name of unity....
posted by dw at 6:56 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


We are being offered the chance to borrow one of her outfits, which alack I am twenty years at least too old to pull off successfully.
posted by winna at 6:56 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Red, white, and blue microphone!
posted by zachlipton at 6:56 PM on July 28, 2016


Katy Perry's mic is fucked up for the opening bars, I think, 'cause she's reaching back to fiddle with her in-ears....
posted by TwoStride at 6:57 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


that microphone flag thing...
posted by tivalasvegas at 6:57 PM on July 28, 2016


Sound mix on PBS during the song is atrocious
posted by clorox at 6:57 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


More monitor issues? Katy Perry sounds awful.
posted by zug at 6:57 PM on July 28, 2016


REEEEVERRRRRB
posted by winna at 6:57 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


They're explaining to the audience how they will do their elaborate card stunt with the blacklight business.

I was hoping the disembodied announcers voice was going to say: "Under your seat, you will find a horse head mask. Please do not put it on until we give the signal. Trust us. You'll know when it's time."
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 6:57 PM on July 28, 2016 [19 favorites]


Now why does Katy Perry get reverb and not Paul Simon.

We got robbed.
posted by Annika Cicada at 6:57 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Ah, the old rigatoni red white and blue necklace.
posted by the uncomplicated soups of my childhood at 6:57 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Did conventions have these popular entertainers before television? Like would Burl Ives come out and perform for the delegates and everyone would listen at home on their wooden radios?
posted by downtohisturtles at 6:57 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


Oh, man, I missed Sharrod.

I had to make sure Mrs. H got to see Mr. Khan's speech. Clip is s already on YouTube.
 
posted by Herodios at 6:57 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


So as a Canadian I've never watched a convention before. Is it normal to have musical acts?
posted by kanata at 6:57 PM on July 28, 2016


Left-wing Shark
posted by MCMikeNamara at 6:57 PM on July 28, 2016 [42 favorites]


You guys, she had a FLAG BEDAZZLED MIC!
posted by Weeping_angel at 6:57 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


The card thing is like those stupid tests in elementary school that start "Read all the directions first" and then the last instruction is "Ignore everything but the first instruction." I always failed that test.
posted by stet at 6:57 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


More monitor issues? Katy Perry sounds awful.

... Do I have to say it? Do I?
posted by Justinian at 6:58 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


Does anyone know if there's a single, uncut video of Day 3? I missed it :(
posted by Skorgu at 6:58 PM on July 28, 2016


Very few people seem to have followed the flashlight directions.
posted by the uncomplicated soups of my childhood at 6:58 PM on July 28, 2016


You guys, my good friend Hillary totally just texted me
About to head out and accept your nomination for president. I'm so grateful to everyone who made this moment possible. -H
posted by soren_lorensen at 6:58 PM on July 28, 2016 [34 favorites]


I voted for Sanders in the CT primary. I went and got an ID (mine was expired since 2009) and re-registered to vote just so I could.

These Busters at the DNC (and the clowns on FB/Twitter/etc) make me regret it and I am angry at them. I'm pissed. They've been given days, they've been given so much slack. They have disrespected honorable and amazing people.

I don't care what they have to say. They've lost my respect. They don't deserve my respect. The movement has lost my respect.
posted by JakeEXTREME at 6:58 PM on July 28, 2016 [16 favorites]


This is the Olympics song.
posted by zarq at 6:58 PM on July 28, 2016


So do you think the DNC saw the protesters last night with their cell phone flashlights and said "great idea, let's tell everyone to do it for the musical break?"
posted by zachlipton at 6:58 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Someone should have asked her to perform a different song. Kind of slimy to me that she's using her Disaster Olympics Anthem...
posted by sallybrown at 6:58 PM on July 28, 2016


Sound mix on PBS during the song is atrocious
posted by threeants at 6:58 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Weird I was just thinking she sounds pretty good (C-SPAN) considering she's fiddling with her in-ear monitor.
posted by misskaz at 6:58 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


not just a red, white, and blue microphone -- a bedazzled red, white, and blue microphone!
posted by FlyingMonkey at 6:58 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Great time to plug your new single Katy ffs if you want to help just sing freakinv firework
posted by Potomac Avenue at 6:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


Why is Siri giving instructions?

"Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test."
posted by notyou at 6:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [38 favorites]


I don't care what they have to say. They've lost my respect. They don't deserve my respect. The movement has lost my respect.

To paraphrase fun., they are young. I remember going down to Seattle Center to yell at Hubert Humphrey. I have regretted it ever since. As will they.
posted by y2karl at 6:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


I dislike Katy Perry, but she's got plenty of songs that would work in this context; this isn't one of them.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 6:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Florent Groberg is pretty awesome. If you liked him, you may also enjoy his speech at the Pritzker Military Library in Chicago last year: https://www.pritzkermilitary.org/whats_on/medal-honor/medal-honor-recipient-florent-groberg-interview/#podcast
posted by wenestvedt at 6:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


So as a Canadian I've never watched a convention before. Is it normal to have musical acts?

It's not uncommon (The Sound of Media Spectacle: Music at the Party Conventions, James Deaville)
posted by filthy light thief at 6:59 PM on July 28, 2016




She is clearly having monitor issues.
posted by zachlipton at 6:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


The bumper sticker I'd like to have would read TRUCK FUMP
posted by X4ster at 6:59 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


I'm super stoked to watch Hillary Clinton's speech live!
posted by Excommunicated Cardinal at 7:00 PM on July 28, 2016


Email from the campaign:
Tonight, I’m thinking about my mom.

Life wasn’t easy for her. By fourteen, she was working full-time as a housekeeper for just $3 a week, separated from her family and grateful just to be able to go to school. The America she knew was not one where a woman, even one working as hard as she was, could break down all the barriers in her way.

This night -- this victory -- is for her and for every little boy and girl who deserves the opportunity to live up to their God-given potential. We can make sure that every child born in America grows up safe, secure, and sure that they, too, can grow up to be anything they want to be -- even President of the United States.
posted by mochapickle at 7:00 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Someone call Tim Kaine I'm ready to get picked up from this concert
posted by Potomac Avenue at 7:00 PM on July 28, 2016 [88 favorites]


DAMN IT
posted by showbiz_liz at 7:00 PM on July 28, 2016


I think they're working it out - this song is sounding a little better?
posted by winna at 7:00 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


"I bet she transitions into Roar at some point" is a thing I said earlier and you'll just have to take my word for it.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 7:00 PM on July 28, 2016 [14 favorites]


Okay see, Roar is fine, but obviously Firework forever if we have to be saddled with Katy.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 7:00 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Do we have to actually go back to worrying about Trump as a viable candidate after this week?
posted by waitingtoderail at 7:00 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


So as a Canadian I've never watched a convention before. Is it normal to have musical acts?

This entire event is like no convention I have ever seen in my life.
posted by madamjujujive at 7:00 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


My wife: "She just demanded I sing along, but I don't know the words. What do I do? I'm gonna roar, I guess."
posted by filthy light thief at 7:00 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


Taylor Swift comes out wearing a shirt reading 'Unity' and the internet explodes.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 7:00 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


They are one sound mixer away from this being a show networks pay for.
posted by cmfletcher at 7:00 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Pretty sure this card stunt is gonna be the DNC's botched balloon drop.

I have no real reason for thinking this, but I kind of suspect the card stunt is a buster-related decoy of some sort.
posted by dersins at 7:01 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Well . . . I guess the kids dig it.
 
posted by Herodios at 7:01 PM on July 28, 2016


god Katy Perry has such a rad body. (hai gender dysphoria >.>)
posted by Annika Cicada at 7:01 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


Roar seems appropriate.
posted by zarq at 7:01 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Ben Jacobs ‏@Bencjacobs 55s56 seconds ago
Told volunteers are positioning themselves in aisles to attempt to prevent BernieBros bumrushing the stage to "citizens arrest" Hillary
posted by waitingtoderail at 7:01 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


She maybe should have worn something she could move better in.
posted by Weeping_angel at 7:01 PM on July 28, 2016


Roar redeemed it a bit.
posted by Potomac Avenue at 7:01 PM on July 28, 2016


FYI, Katy Perry has 91 million Twitter followers. So, you know. As for why she's on stage right now.
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 7:01 PM on July 28, 2016 [16 favorites]


You know, I bet the card trick instructions are also printed on the back of the bag.
posted by showbiz_liz at 7:01 PM on July 28, 2016


I voted for Bernie Sanders in the primary and I'm glad, because he forced the DNC to move the platform to the left.

Most Sanders voters are good people, don't let the few Busters harsh that.
posted by maggiemaggie at 7:01 PM on July 28, 2016 [19 favorites]


I have no real reason for thinking this, but I kind of suspect the card stunt is a buster-related decoy of some sort.

Me too! Especially the 'put down all other signs' bit.
posted by winna at 7:01 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


(like if I'm not good at picking what songs a pop star does at a Democratic political convention, I don't even know who I am.)
posted by MCMikeNamara at 7:01 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


So as a Canadian I've never watched a convention before. Is it normal to have musical acts?


According to the AP archives, the 1992 DNC had:

20:01:00 ACTOR MAC DAVIS IMPERSONATES LEGENDARY HUMORIST WILL

ROGERS DURING A SPEECH AT THE CONVENTION. A MUSICAL PERFORMANCE

FROM THE BROADWAY SHOW WILL ROGERS FOLLIES FOLLOWS.

posted by mandolin conspiracy at 7:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


Hey you guys remember how terrible those three singers were last night?

Good times.
posted by penduluum at 7:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


One lone earnest man is crying out for an encore.
posted by winna at 7:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [15 favorites]


The dude shouting encore is hella optimistic.
posted by Torosaurus at 7:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


"Encore!"
posted by EatTheWeak at 7:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Since I gave her guff she's actually a better live singer than she used to be AFAICT. When she switched from the smaller pre-Kissed-a-Girl kinda songs to the big pop stuff I thought she struggled for a while. Struggled into a hundred million dollars I guess but still.

I feel like Patrick Bateman analyzing Huey Lewis.
posted by Justinian at 7:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Some dude calling for an encore.
posted by paper chromatographologist at 7:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Okay, so now is when Beyonce comes out to do "Freedom"?
posted by palindromic at 7:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Well there's at least one drunk person there because someone is yelling "Encore!" for Katy Perry very clearly and insistently.
posted by TwoStride at 7:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


I just.... if they really try to "citizens arrest" Hillary, someone is going to get shot. Have they never heard of the Secret Service? Do they think they have some sort of privilege field that will protect them?
posted by ArbitraryAndCapricious at 7:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


Hey "encore" guy, we heard you. You can shut up now.
posted by dersins at 7:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Wow, Katy just killed my youtube stream. Thanks, Obama.
posted by Trifling at 7:02 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


omg, that little heel click thing on her way out was fabulous...

right now on the PBS/YouTube feed, general crowd noise and one random guy shouting 'Encore!'
posted by FlyingMonkey at 7:03 PM on July 28, 2016


I missed the instructions; when does the card stunt happen?
posted by Weeping_angel at 7:03 PM on July 28, 2016


HOW GOOD WERE THE '90S WITH JT POSTERS ON YOUR WALL JUST LIKE CHELSEA!
posted by Talez at 7:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


PBS demanding Hillary hit a double or better tonight, guess there's a runner in scoring position? Or maybe just a fast guy on first????
posted by clorox at 7:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Bill seems like he's barely holding it together.
posted by Justinian at 7:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]




Good grief she sounds just like her mother.
posted by notyou at 7:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


> privilege field that will protect them?

Same one that protects them from Trump.
posted by mrzarquon at 7:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Chelsea sounds just like her mother. Wow.
posted by zarq at 7:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Get ready, Bill Reaction Shot Gif Squad!
posted by palindromic at 7:03 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Bill's face!
posted by danapiper at 7:04 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Someone just cheered Elmo!
posted by zachlipton at 7:04 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


you can really hear Hillary in that "a very proud daughter."
posted by dismas at 7:04 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Awww big dog hugging his son-in-law while watching Chelseas speak.
posted by nathan_teske at 7:04 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


Oh god Chelsea is grown up and has a kid?
posted by phliar at 7:04 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Does anyone know if there's a single, uncut video of Day 3? I missed it :(

Watch the Full 2016 Democratic National Convention - Day 3
posted by ActingTheGoat at 7:04 PM on July 28, 2016


We met Chelsea Clinton back in 2008, when she came to our university on her mom'said campaign. She's so genuinely nice it's scary
posted by Torosaurus at 7:04 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


I don't know if Elmo's the best muppet to pick at this point.
posted by downtohisturtles at 7:04 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


This woman gave birth 5.5 weeks ago. Amazing.
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 7:04 PM on July 28, 2016 [31 favorites]


Some dude calling for an encore.

One dude desperately calling for an encore from Katy, that is.
posted by soundguy99 at 7:04 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


What kind of monster would cheer for Elmo, that obsequious little twerp.
posted by the uncomplicated soups of my childhood at 7:05 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


k. it all seems so *big* compared to what we do up here which is I suppose stereotypically American. I still couldn't figure out your whole political process that keeps seemingly go forever but this convention has softened my fears of what you guys are doing down there lately...
posted by kanata at 7:05 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Chugga chugga got applause. Okay.
posted by stet at 7:05 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


GOODNIGHT MOON SHOUTOUT!!!
posted by tivalasvegas at 7:05 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


Good Night, Moon! YES
posted by Excommunicated Cardinal at 7:05 PM on July 28, 2016


THEY DID NOT APPLAUD "GOODNIGHT MOON"! HEATHENS!!!
posted by soundguy99 at 7:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


DINOSAURS
posted by dougmoon at 7:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


Wow
posted by odinsdream at 7:06 PM on July 28, 2016


Shout out for Chugga-Chugga Choo-Choo
posted by zakur at 7:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


She gave birth five minutes ago and comes out on stage in a tight red dress. Oh youth! Seriously who would have ever imagined that that little girl would grow up to be such a beauty. Suck it, Limbaugh!
posted by Secret Life of Gravy at 7:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [18 favorites]


Triceratops! Woo!
posted by homunculus at 7:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


She's right about triceratops. I remember the Land Before Time.
posted by biogeo at 7:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


DINOSAURS!
posted by stet at 7:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


#DINOSAURS

VOTE FOR OUR TERRIFYING DINOSAUR OVERLORDS
posted by dismas at 7:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [13 favorites]


DINOSAURS!! :D
posted by adamt at 7:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


This dinosaur stuff is adorable.
posted by EarBucket at 7:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


hello fellow democrats even though i live in a $10.5 million condo i am down home regular folks and just like you and totally understand your concerns and struggles
posted by entropicamericana at 7:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Dinosaurs!
posted by mrzarquon at 7:06 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Ok, this note thing really makes me feel like we just nominated Leslie Knope.
posted by carrienation at 7:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [18 favorites]


phliar: Oh god Chelsea is grown up and has a kid?

She has TWO!

This woman gave birth 5.5 weeks ago. Amazing.

I KNOW! How is she speaking so coherently? Tiny babies are brain-suckers, and they abhor a schedule.
posted by filthy light thief at 7:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


The notes. Awww damn.
posted by Glinn at 7:07 PM on July 28, 2016


Well, she had me with Triceratops.
posted by y2karl at 7:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


Major props to Chelsea for giving this speech with a newborn at home. I bet her boobs hurt like hell or she had to pump right before the speech.
She sounded so cute and dorky talking about dinosaurs. I've loved Chelsea since I was a kid and I also had a pet cat! #bffs
posted by areaperson at 7:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


Chelsea Clinton finds the triceratops the friendlist-looking of all dinosaurs. She really liked dinosaurs as a kid.
posted by TwoStride at 7:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


Chelsea sounds so nervous, which seems odd? She's smoothing out a bit.

I have to say that the Republicans lost me as a potential member of their party when I was a kid at the same time as Chelsea and saw how they treated her. I never forgot it. I never will.
posted by winna at 7:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [46 favorites]


okay tell me why I'm kinda grossed out by speeches from family members of the candidate. I'm perfectly okay finding out that the reason why I'm kind of grossed out by speeches from family members is Problematic. but uh I'm kinda grossed out by speeches from family members.
posted by You Can't Tip a Buick at 7:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Bill's about to lose it, I think.
posted by wallabear at 7:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


A Wrinkle in Time is ok. I said it; ok.
posted by Justinian at 7:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


I love that Chelsea is still so endearlngly dorky.
posted by dersins at 7:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


Oh yay the twitch stream is back to being live. I've had such glitchy audio on YouTube tonight.
posted by Lorin at 7:07 PM on July 28, 2016




Lesson for future convention speakers: just blindly pause if you say a state name.
posted by Skorgu at 7:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Oh no Chelsea Clinton is that woman from the bizarre jewelry commercial with the Astronaut
posted by the uncomplicated soups of my childhood at 7:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Triceratops--in my opinion, the friendliest looking dinosaurs--although my mom would always remind me, still dinosaurs...
posted by FlyingMonkey at 7:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [14 favorites]


Chelsea is my sister's age and it is impossible for me to not think of her in a protective brother way and it has been this way since 1992 (so it feels less weird and patriarchal than it sounds)


WRINKLE IN TIME SHOUT OUT
posted by MCMikeNamara at 7:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


Triceratops was tied with Stegosaurus for friendliest-looking dinosaur you heartless monster how dare you alienate the fragile and diverse dinosaur coalition
posted by mattdidthat at 7:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


that obsequious little twerp.

Is that a Chris Christie dig?
posted by Excommunicated Cardinal at 7:07 PM on July 28, 2016


This info about the famed Clinton family dinners is like catnip to me.
posted by acidic at 7:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Like every other schoolchild in America, I had to write a letter to Chelsea Clinton right after the Clintons were elected. Seeing how she's grown up, how poised and wonderful she is...the emotions!
posted by kalimac at 7:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


A Wrinkle in Time shoutout.
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 7:07 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Out of favorites but I want to offer all my imaginary super favorites to winna because winna's comments have kept me knowing what's going on when I couldn't watch. Thank you everyone but especially winna.
posted by Joey Michaels at 7:08 PM on July 28, 2016 [11 favorites]


Tbf dinosaurs bring us all together
posted by odinsdream at 7:08 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


"My parents expected me to have opinions... AND to be able to back them up with facts."
posted by Superplin at 7:08 PM on July 28, 2016 [24 favorites]


These are the anecdotes and personal reminiscences that were missing from Ivanka's speech about her father. She's humanizing her mom to the audience in a powerful way, that Trump's children were incapable of doing.
posted by zarq at 7:08 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


Chelsea is six weeks older than me. I'm digging it and admiring her poise.
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 7:08 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Trump: "I wrote a note on my kid's report card!"

Chelsea: "My mom wrote me notes about her experiences in France while researching child care in a social democracy".

Man Trump, Chelsea just pissed on your rug.
posted by Annika Cicada at 7:08 PM on July 28, 2016 [57 favorites]


Joe Sacco says Sanders delegates in green shirts "have secret plans that cannot be stopped" to protest tonight.

Uh, dude, you just told a reporter and you just showed the whips what you look like.
posted by dw at 7:08 PM on July 28, 2016 [13 favorites]


okay tell me why I'm kinda grossed out by speeches from family members of the candidate.

Just spitballing here, but is it possible you may have been slipped a glass of some variety of Haterade?
posted by dersins at 7:08 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


Man, Bill ist verklempt.

Is he breathing?
 
posted by Herodios at 7:09 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Cards with individual dates on them!
posted by EatTheWeak at 7:09 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


She is hella poised, no? Like amazingly so.
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 7:09 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


carrienation: Ok, this note thing really makes me feel like we just nominated Leslie Knope.

Leslie Knope feels the same way!
posted by Superplin at 7:09 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


We can only hope for a Runaway Bunny shoutout....
posted by y2karl at 7:09 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


"Public service is about service."

YES
posted by winna at 7:09 PM on July 28, 2016 [22 favorites]


She has Hillary's voice but Bill's vocal fry.
posted by misskaz at 7:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


I love all the dinosaur love here. I kind of wish my four year old son was still awake for that moment, but if he was, he'd just ask which dinosaur she was talking about, because you can't just say "I like dinosaurs" to him and get away with that. And he'd be a huge grouch tomorrow if he stayed up this late.
posted by filthy light thief at 7:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Joe Sacco says Sanders delegates in green shirts "have secret plans that cannot be stopped" to protest tonight.

Wait, is that Joe Sacco the journalist/graphic novel guy?!
posted by infinitywaltz at 7:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


No Cars And Trucks And Things That Go!?!?!

Hillary has no infrastructure plan! LIES!
posted by mrzarquon at 7:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Public service is about SERVICE. Yes. YES.
posted by devinemissk at 7:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Legit Leslie Knope.
posted by cooker girl at 7:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


This one seems forced and overly folksy, there I said it.
posted by ftm at 7:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


Melania Trump just tweeted Triceratops is her favorite friendly dinosaur
posted by mattdidthat at 7:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [24 favorites]


Yep Chelsea I'm sure you're wondering how your kids are going to get healthcare.
posted by the uncomplicated soups of my childhood at 7:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


(Never heard her voice before. Hmmm.)
posted by wenestvedt at 7:10 PM on July 28, 2016


My favorite dinosaur is the plesiosaur even though they are not actually dinosaurs.
posted by winna at 7:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


hello fellow democrats even though i live in a $10.5 million condo i am down home regular folks and just like you and totally understand your concerns and struggles

Yeah. You're not wrong, but what? I think the guy who owns a whole bunch of buildings with his name on the side and the luxury golf resorts is more in touch with my needs?
posted by zachlipton at 7:10 PM on July 28, 2016 [36 favorites]


Grampa Bill is my favorite Bill Clinton.
posted by filthy light thief at 7:11 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


Pride and Prejudice shout out!
posted by joedan at 7:11 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


PRIDE AND PREJUDICE SHOUT OUT
posted by winna at 7:11 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Somewhere in the United States Steve Gutenberg sheds a single tear of joy.
posted by nathan_teske at 7:11 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


This one seems forced and overly folksy, there I said it.

She doesn't have the Clinton It Factor (not that she is lacking in talent - she is obviously a pretty brilliant person). From time to time there are whispers about her planning to run for something and I just *really* hope she find her own path doing something else instead.
posted by sallybrown at 7:11 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


I think this is lovely and I understand why they want to send this portrait of Hillary as a loving, caring mom. But I'm feeling a little uncomfortable with being told the future president will always immediately drop whatever she's doing to be there for her kid.
posted by Mchelly at 7:11 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


What the hell, Hillary texted me much later.

Voting for Stein.
posted by Tarumba at 7:12 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


hello fellow democrats even though i live in a $10.5 million condo i am down home regular folks and just like you and totally understand your concerns and struggles

Yeah. You're not wrong, but what? I think the guy who owns a whole bunch of buildings with his name on the side and the luxury golf resorts is more in touch with my needs?


also, she's alluded a few times to how privileged (ok, she said lucky) she was...
posted by FlyingMonkey at 7:12 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Awww, Bill is tearing up.
posted by longdaysjourney at 7:12 PM on July 28, 2016


Chelsea was my TA for a health policy class when I was doing my MPH and she was just as relatable and knowledgeable as she comes off tonight. I was really looking forward to seeing her speak tonight and I am not disappointed.
posted by Waiting for Pierce Inverarity at 7:12 PM on July 28, 2016 [42 favorites]


Her speech pretty much laid them out as the new Roosevelts and Kennedys, rich-ass people who go into public service. It's smart as hell.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 7:12 PM on July 28, 2016 [28 favorites]


I mean come on, she flat out told us that her parents taught her that she was "smiled on by fate." She fucking knows she's privileged.
posted by cooker girl at 7:13 PM on July 28, 2016 [59 favorites]


zachlipton: I think the guy who owns a whole bunch of buildings with his name on the side and the luxury golf resorts is more in touch with my needs?

His son called him "a blue-collar billionaire." As Jon Stewart shouted "THAT'S NOT A REAL THING!"
posted by filthy light thief at 7:13 PM on July 28, 2016 [14 favorites]


I have to say that the Republicans lost me as a potential member of their party when I was a kid at the same time as Chelsea and saw how they treated her. I never forgot it. I never will.
posted by winna at 10:07 PM

I never forgot, never forgave. That all those gross men could make fun of a young woman for her looks at a time when she was thrust into the spotlight for no reason of her own, just horrified and it made me hate Limbaugh with the passion of a thousand suns. It is his single biggest sin in my eyes. He tortured a child because she wasn't pretty enough in his eyes just so he could score an easy joke. What a lump of excrescence.

But tonight it is Chelsea's night to shine, it is Hillary's night to shine. So shine on ladies!
posted by Secret Life of Gravy at 7:13 PM on July 28, 2016 [106 favorites]


I hope the democrats have a good plan for whatever is about to happen. I'm looking forward to this video, and Hillary's speech.
posted by cashman at 7:13 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Bill & Tim Kaine are sitting next to each other and chuckling about something and now I want "Bill and Tim's Excellent Adventure."
posted by soundguy99 at 7:13 PM on July 28, 2016 [26 favorites]


Yep Chelsea I'm sure you're wondering how your kids are going to get healthcare.
posted by the uncomplicated soups of my childhood at 7:10 PM on 7/28
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That just sounds petty and mean, sorry.
posted by ramix at 7:13 PM on July 28, 2016 [37 favorites]


Being rich does not necessarily mean that you are defacto a selfish asshole.
posted by hollygoheavy at 7:13 PM on July 28, 2016 [24 favorites]


"This November, I'm voting for a woman who is my role model as a mother and an advocate. [...] I'm voting for the progressive who will protect our environment and our communities from gun violence [...] and who knows that women's rights are human rights, and that LGBT rights are human rights."
posted by winna at 7:14 PM on July 28, 2016 [16 favorites]


LGBT RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS
posted by donatella at 7:14 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


posted by Mchelly the future president will always immediately drop whatever she's doing to be there for her kid.

I doubt it. Chelsea Clinton is a grown woman.
posted by mattdidthat at 7:14 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


Tarumba: What the hell, Hillary texted me much later. Voting for Stein.

I got my text while Katy Perry was singing. Guess Hils knows who her real supporters are.
posted by Superplin at 7:14 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


man I was really hoping for a "and she knows black lives matter" at the end of the list of all those "she knows."
posted by You Can't Tip a Buick at 7:14 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


New life goal: to watch the BBC Pride and Prejudice miniseries with the Clintons.
posted by muddgirl at 7:14 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


I'm loving the proud dad shots, too.
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 7:15 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Morgan Freeman!
posted by danapiper at 7:15 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Morgan Freeman!!!
posted by mollywas at 7:15 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Wait, is that Joe Sacco the journalist/graphic novel guy?!

No. Here's his resume. This guy's a realtor/activist.
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 7:15 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


"To everyone here watching and at home I know my mother will make us proud."
posted by winna at 7:15 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


You Can't Tip a Buick, it bothers me too. Possibly it's because, at best, it's biased - if the parents aren't total incompetents, their kids love them deeply. Any public speech that focuses on the parent's good qualities, no matter how true and accurate, is infused with that childhood adoration and it's like walking into a deeply personal moment.

Also, there's a weird dichotomy between "here's my mom, who was awesome and supportive and loving when I was growing up," [insert heartwarming incident recollections], followed by, "here's this woman's amazing public accomplishments." It hits the uncanny valley buttons... are you talking about a family member or a politician? (Okay, yeah, both, but... still makes me twitchy.)

It may even be a necessary part of the narrative, given how anti-family the Republican platform is; it just makes me squirm a bit.
posted by ErisLordFreedom at 7:15 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


I doubt it. Chelsea Clinton is a grown woman.

I'm not sure that matters; I'm grown and I'm fairly confident my mom would drop whatever she was doing if I called and said I needed help.
posted by Justinian at 7:15 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


Bill & Tim Kaine are sitting next to each other and chuckling about something and now I want "Bill and Tim's Excellent Adventure."

I know there are filmmaker types reading this, so please make this happen immediately thanks.
posted by Superplin at 7:15 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


MORGAN FUCKING FREEMAN
posted by entropicamericana at 7:15 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


Who's the narrator?
posted by zachlipton at 7:15 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


Morgan Freeman voiceover!
posted by joedan at 7:15 PM on July 28, 2016


MORGAN!
posted by downtohisturtles at 7:15 PM on July 28, 2016


Huh, when I tuned in to the YouTube livestream a few hours ago (right around the time of the Right Rev. Barber), there were about 40K watching. That number is now sitting around 200K.
posted by Panjandrum at 7:15 PM on July 28, 2016


Oh shit, Morgan Freeman. God's narrating her story!
posted by lovecrafty at 7:15 PM on July 28, 2016 [14 favorites]


YES! Morgan Freeman voice-over! Obama anecdotes! Who did Trump have for his video introduction?
posted by filthy light thief at 7:15 PM on July 28, 2016


Morgan Freeman narration FTW
posted by mattdidthat at 7:15 PM on July 28, 2016


Oh shit, they brought out the big gun: Morgan Freeman
posted by zombieflanders at 7:15 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Morgan Freeman narration FTW
posted by zakur at 7:15 PM on July 28, 2016


President Obama is talking about Hillary's laugh omg.
posted by winna at 7:15 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]




Morgan Freeman. BOOM. Voice of God!
posted by mochapickle at 7:16 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


In case no ones mentioned this I'm pretty sure I saw on twitter this video was made by Shonda Rhimes.
posted by DynamiteToast at 7:16 PM on July 28, 2016


Fuckin Morgan Freeman voiceover damn
posted by mothershock at 7:16 PM on July 28, 2016


Of course Morgan Freeman as narrator. Of course.
posted by Two unicycles and some duct tape at 7:16 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Gotta confess - I burst out laughing at the sound of Morgan Freeman's voice. Like, "OF COURSE it's him!"
posted by dnash at 7:16 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


Somewhere in the United States Steve Gutenberg sheds a single tear of joy.

WE DO! WE DO!
posted by Talez at 7:16 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


oe Sacco says Sanders delegates in green shirts "have secret plans that cannot be stopped" to protest tonight.

If only there were some way to identify them, make them stand out from the crowd...
posted by bongo_x at 7:16 PM on July 28, 2016 [14 favorites]


Aw, yeah, that sweet molasses.
posted by rewil at 7:16 PM on July 28, 2016


I liked what she said, but not super into her prosodic structure during that speech. Must be the phonetician in me. But still impressed with her, especially knowing she's just given birth.
posted by k8bot at 7:16 PM on July 28, 2016


Where is this kitchen?!
posted by mynameisluka at 7:16 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


librarina just lined up the tiny bottles of bourbon that we've been saving.
posted by stet at 7:16 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Holy shit the narration
posted by odinsdream at 7:16 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


posted by filthy light thief Who did Trump have for his video introduction?

His terrified employees.
posted by mattdidthat at 7:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [33 favorites]


Yeah Morgan Freeman is killing it with the voiceover. We just need Ken Burns and some massive slow pan photo shots.
posted by winna at 7:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Hillary's mom

:(

What the fuck that is awful
posted by Tarumba at 7:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


Okay her dad looks like Tim Kaine.

IT ALL MAKES SENSE.
posted by Salieri at 7:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Man, Morgan Freeman as the voiceover for Hillary's intro vid is not playing fair.
posted by TwoStride at 7:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Oh for fuck's sake, my HUSBAND would drop everything for our kids. It's not just a mom or grandma thing and to say so is really fucking gendered.
posted by cooker girl at 7:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [45 favorites]


OMG She got God himself to narrate! I dead! I so dead!
posted by ramix at 7:17 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


Joe Sacco says Sanders delegates in green shirts "have secret plans that cannot be stopped" to protest tonight.

They're going to spell out LIAR in the seats using their green shirts when the lights go down. Jesus Christ it took me like thirty fucking seconds to figure that one out.
posted by Talez at 7:18 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


I hope but don't expect Hillary's speech to go something like this:

Thank you, thank you. Thank you for everything.

I could spend 74 minutes up here telling you nothing but I'm going to spend 3 minutes telling you everything you need to know about this election.

Donald Trump is not fit to be President.

We do not hate. We do not succumb to fear. We do not forget our citizens.

I will not forget us.

I accept your nomination to be the next President of the United States of America.

Thank you, thank you.

Thank you.
posted by JakeEXTREME at 7:18 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


> We just need Ken Burns and some massive slow pan photo shots.

We got 100 more days.
posted by mrzarquon at 7:18 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


The Voice of God
posted by longdaysjourney at 7:18 PM on July 28, 2016


The line about how "grandma would be so proud" made me burst into tears standing in my kitchen.
posted by you're a kitty! at 7:18 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


How old was Hillary's mother getting those coupons? I missed that.
posted by polymodus at 7:18 PM on July 28, 2016


this vs. Jon Voight saying "He built some buildings and golf courses."
posted by gatorae at 7:18 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


She went undercover as a housewife to prove Alabama was evading desegregation? I want to hear more on that! I want a miniseries!
posted by winna at 7:19 PM on July 28, 2016 [19 favorites]


wait Bill speech reprise?
posted by FlyingMonkey at 7:19 PM on July 28, 2016


Love the 1970s big floppy hat
posted by mattdidthat at 7:19 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Shawshank reference please. Please.
posted by skewed at 7:19 PM on July 28, 2016


"we grow the biggest watermelons in the world"
posted by mrzarquon at 7:19 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


++watermelon story
posted by jamaro at 7:19 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


polymodus, four.
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 7:19 PM on July 28, 2016


Ok enough with the laptop-and-headphones DNC stream time, it's big tv and YouTube on the Chromecast for Hillary!
posted by jason_steakums at 7:20 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


her mother was 4...jeez.
posted by kanata at 7:20 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


I think this is lovely and I understand why they want to send this portrait of Hillary as a loving, caring mom. But I'm feeling a little uncomfortable with being told the future president will always immediately drop whatever she's doing to be there for her kid.

There's an interesting academic discussion about putting the country ahead of family (it's a West Wing trope in fact), but this line of thinking has also been used to disqualify women from millions of jobs and it's pretty problematic.
posted by zachlipton at 7:20 PM on July 28, 2016 [43 favorites]


Kitchen table Hillary is a good Hillary. I'm liking this approach. I like situation room Hillary, too, but this is good. Strong and relatable.
posted by gimonca at 7:20 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


"Hillary got the nominations but she needed to crawl through 1000 yards of Republican shit to do it..."
posted by Joey Michaels at 7:20 PM on July 28, 2016 [14 favorites]


ahhhhhhhh bailed on class and raged through stupid rush hour traffic and made it home just in time, yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
posted by palomar at 7:20 PM on July 28, 2016 [17 favorites]


oh hey guys I think that might be Morgan Freeman narrating
posted by biogeo at 7:20 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


Whoa Hillary's mom was rough when she got bullied - she told Hillary there was no room for cowards in her house and sent her back out to deal with it.
posted by winna at 7:20 PM on July 28, 2016


It's still a radical statement, Bill.
posted by mynameisluka at 7:21 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


it was kinda distressing in that Hillary and Bill with Infant picture how much she looks like my mother at that age ...
posted by FlyingMonkey at 7:21 PM on July 28, 2016


South Park established that Morgan Freeman is the guy Hollywood calls to explain something complicated to white people in a movie.
posted by humanfont at 7:21 PM on July 28, 2016 [42 favorites]


hello fellow democrats even though i live in a $10.5 million condo i am down home regular folks and just like you and totally understand your concerns and struggles

Believe it or not there are many people that this would be true for.
posted by bongo_x at 7:21 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


Just spitballing here, but is it possible you may have been slipped a glass of some variety of Haterade?

Wingnut's Old White Republican, no doubt, One sip and you're brain-dead on Hillary hatin'...

Like I said elsewhere, Joseph Goebbels is beaming with a father's pride from his circle of Hell.
posted by y2karl at 7:21 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Say, who's the narraYES WEHAVE GOT A VIDEO!
 
posted by Herodios at 7:21 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Oh man, the pocket Constitution, another thing conservatives will be convinced was stolen from them.

Actually I'd wager - If it's like every pocket constitution I have ever come across - that it's from the Cato institute.
posted by phearlez at 7:22 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


See y'all on the other side. I'm diving deep into this.
posted by Annika Cicada at 7:22 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Shit I have been so bad about actually learning about her history.
posted by odinsdream at 7:22 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]






Huh, when I tuned in to the YouTube livestream a few hours ago (right around the time of the Right Rev. Barber), there were about 40K watching. That number is now sitting around 200K


We all moved over from the other stream which had us stuck backstage.
posted by rabbitrabbit at 7:22 PM on July 28, 2016


I mean child poverty and neglect are horrible but my childhood fantasy was probably to be given coupons and wandering out to eat alone at a café at night.
posted by feral_goldfish at 7:23 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Talking about 9/11, and the narration talks about what "Hillary and Chuck" did, not just her.
posted by une_heure_pleine at 7:23 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Aspect ratio fail on one clip!
posted by Yowser at 7:23 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


It's been 15 years, and it's still hard as hell to watch those images and listen to these testimonies... but they are absolutely right that she fought like hell for New York and the responders.
posted by zarq at 7:23 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


I am so not being emotionally manipulated.
posted by ZenMasterThis at 7:23 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


She went undercover as a housewife to prove Alabama was evading desegregation? I want to hear more on that! I want a miniseries!
Here you go.
posted by ArbitraryAndCapricious at 7:23 PM on July 28, 2016 [7 favorites]


She went undercover as a housewife to prove Alabama was evading desegregation? I want to hear more on that! I want a miniseries!

Elect her and Netflix will get right on it.
posted by Secret Life of Gravy at 7:23 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


"Took on the EPA"

I see what you did there, Hillary, throwing Republicans a bone.
posted by C'est la D.C. at 7:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]


"Look at her. Look at her face."
posted by you're a kitty! at 7:24 PM on July 28, 2016


hey everyone morgan freeman just said "in the room" so uh if you've got a reference of some sort handy you might want to get going on that.
posted by You Can't Tip a Buick at 7:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


And now "When I was a part of a group that was asked to advise the President" about the Bin Ladin killing. Not "when I was asked".
posted by une_heure_pleine at 7:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


How Hillary Clinton Went Undercover to Examine Race in Education

She busted a school that was defying desegration laws.
posted by hollygoheavy at 7:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [13 favorites]


I want Hillary Clinton to come up behind me in a bathroom and hug me
posted by mollywas at 7:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


I mean child poverty and neglect are horrible but my childhood fantasy was probably to be given coupons and wandering out to eat alone at a café at night.

My wife and I too just had the Coupon Talk in regards to our child's future prospects.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 7:24 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Choke on shit Scott Adams.
posted by cmfletcher at 7:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [22 favorites]


Actually I'd wager - If it's like every pocket constitution I have ever come across - that it's from the Cato institute.

What? It's the pocket constitution you get at some point during the naturalization ceremony. I look forward to getting mine soon.
posted by Talez at 7:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [36 favorites]


jesus you guys this is not 'how women must present themselves in public' this is HILLARY CLINTON LIZARD QUEEN ICE SCULPTURE shocking reveal. they are A. completely free to be as sentimental as they please because she is one woman, maybe THE one woman, whose toughness and steely core cannot be questioned, especially by her enemies! people still living believe she murdered a man, remember?

and B, trying to tempt Trump into attacking her for being an emotional baby-loving woman, which would be absolutely fantastic for her, because (see A.)

complain when they do this to the next woman president but this is Hillary's finest revenge hour and for all of us who had to watch her be humiliated into baking apology cookies and cowering under her husband's last name, seeing her turn it all around on those fuckers who are, as I say, STILL BREATHING, and run as Power Grandma, is sweet, ironic, vicious, and adorable. I am a childless spinster and I am pro-all of this sentimental garbage because of CONTEXT.
posted by queenofbithynia at 7:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [146 favorites]


Remember how last week they made a video that told us about that time Donald Trump got an ice skating rink built?
posted by zachlipton at 7:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [14 favorites]


Can Morgan Freeman be her Press Secretary?
posted by jason_steakums at 7:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


The matrilineal descent of the American Dream!
posted by Sublimity at 7:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [9 favorites]


Wow, Dems even trawling 9/11 for emotional resonance. They are really trying to build something that feels familiar to Republicans.
posted by dry white toast at 7:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


"There's more than enough American Dream to go around."

WOW
posted by wenestvedt at 7:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [14 favorites]


You Can't Tip a Buick: hey everyone morgan freeman just said "in the room" so uh if you've got a reference of some sort handy you might want to get going on that.

I'm sure I don't know what you mean; you forget yourself.
posted by Superplin at 7:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [16 favorites]


"There is more than enough of the American dream to go around" -- THIS is how her approach is different from Trump's.
posted by ErisLordFreedom at 7:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


Worth noting that Republicans tried to fuck over New York every step of the way re: finance and security. And Schumer and Clinton fought them every step.
posted by zarq at 7:25 PM on July 28, 2016 [13 favorites]


Choke on shit Scott Adams.

I mean, yes, but it seems like a non sequitur?
posted by dersins at 7:26 PM on July 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


OMG we're at peak Morgan Freeman narration.

"Without fanfare, Hillary attended Debbie's wedding. And Debbie danced. She danced."
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 7:26 PM on July 28, 2016 [25 favorites]


Good point, Bill.
posted by penduluum at 7:26 PM on July 28, 2016


to generation
posted by Flashman at 7:26 PM on July 28, 2016


Wow... The live cutting to her daughter in present day reflection is some damn fine impressive work. Bringing the viewer into empathy and sympathy.
posted by odinsdream at 7:26 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


I wonder how many busters are going to rush the stage after this video.
posted by mrzarquon at 7:26 PM on July 28, 2016


Oh, that unbroken line of women. Now I'm crying.
posted by yasaman at 7:26 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


hey everyone morgan freeman just said "in the room" so uh if you've got a reference of some sort handy you might want to get going on that.

Oh hi Mark Hillary
posted by Panjandrum at 7:26 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


oh man, i'm already crying, this is gonna be way harder on me than last night. her speech the night of the california primary made me bawl my big dumb face off, so... yeah. oh boy.
posted by palomar at 7:26 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Talking about 9/11, and the narration talks about what "Hillary and Chuck" did, not just her.

Of course it does. Chuck Schumer is likely going to take over as the leader of the Democratic Senators after Reid steps down. She knows that, and her attention to little details like that are why she's going to be an great President.
posted by joedan at 7:27 PM on July 28, 2016 [26 favorites]


During the UN section of the video my 5 year old jumped up and grabbed her Hillary book. https://flic.kr/p/JEy2oY
posted by iamabot at 7:27 PM on July 28, 2016 [19 favorites]


"Get busy voting . . . or get busy dying"
posted by mattdidthat at 7:27 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


great profile picture of HRC
posted by k8bot at 7:27 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Watching with my 18 yo daughter. About to cry.
posted by chaoticgood at 7:27 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Jacqui Deegan ‏@JacqKD now8 seconds ago
Storms. Complete power black-out in Georgetown as of 10 min ago. I wonder how much of the DC area can't see HRC speak. #DNCinPHL
posted by waitingtoderail at 7:27 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


No pressure...
posted by uosuaq at 7:27 PM on July 28, 2016


Hillary is a workhorse....


Uh.
posted by odinsdream at 7:27 PM on July 28, 2016


I really admire Chelsea, not because she lives in a 10.5 million dollar house, but because she was a kind of nerdy kid who got the shit bullied out of her in high school and grew up to be an accomplished young woman anyway.
posted by humanfont at 7:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [36 favorites]


HELLO DONALD GAME ON MOTHERFUCKER
posted by mattdidthat at 7:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Hillary Clinton coming to the stage.

Some of you may have heard of her.
posted by winna at 7:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [21 favorites]


I haven't seen my wife this weepy since Laurens died.
posted by stet at 7:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


I was kinda hoping she'd walk out to Who Run the World (Girls).
posted by rtha at 7:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [10 favorites]


FIGHT SONG
posted by Small Dollar at 7:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Wow, Dems even trawling 9/11 for emotional resonance. They are really trying to build something that feels familiar to Republicans.

I am a New Yorker who lived here before, during, through and after 9/11. This isn't trawling. This is truth, and history.
posted by zarq at 7:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [61 favorites]


RE: Pocket Constitution
Make a donation to the ACLU and you'll receive a pocket constitution that has all of the original words and nothing else.
posted by X4ster at 7:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [12 favorites]


gosh I'm going to have fun sobbing hysterically for the next period of time
posted by kalimac at 7:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [5 favorites]


i'm going to cry so hard when this woman is finally elected president, if tonight is any indication
posted by hepta at 7:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [11 favorites]


Aw. This Sanders supporter is feeling a lot better about things right about now.
posted by litlnemo at 7:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


Good evening, Madam President....
posted by TrishaU at 7:28 PM on July 28, 2016


WHITE PANTSUIT

SHE HAS RETURNED AS HILLARY THE WHITE
posted by dw at 7:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [259 favorites]


Heh. No bootleg music here. And no angry musicians tweeting "hey, I don't care what you paid for a license - I hate you and I don't support you cause."
posted by ErisLordFreedom at 7:28 PM on July 28, 2016 [4 favorites]




Hillary Clinton coming to the stage.

Some of you may have heard of her.


Nice deep dive, this deserves its own FPP.
posted by DynamiteToast at 7:29 PM on July 28, 2016


popping in to say fight song is a badass jam, still no shame.
posted by Annika Cicada at 7:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [3 favorites]


I see a group of busters not far from the stage. I'm worried what they're going to do.
posted by dry white toast at 7:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


And she brought me woodford reserve in a coffee cup.
posted by stet at 7:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Bill is in the audience with tears in his eyes.
posted by winna at 7:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Kareem in the crowd waving a flag :D
posted by litlnemo at 7:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


She walked out and I burst into tears for the first time. It finally dawned on me that we are gonna elect a woman.
posted by gaspode at 7:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [30 favorites]


i didn't expect to be so overwhelmed seeing a woman standing on a stage for president and it isn't even my own country.
posted by kanata at 7:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [15 favorites]


The shots of these young women sobbing. Oh god.
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 7:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [18 favorites]


Holy crap, I am nervous.
posted by codacorolla at 7:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [6 favorites]


Another admission - I went to the grocery store today just to buy a box of Kleenex. I'm already halfway through the box and she hasn't event started talking yet!!!
posted by ramix at 7:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Loving the CSPAN slow pan out over the audience. Also, Bill looks so proud.
posted by Torosaurus at 7:29 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


DNC crowd response to Clinton > RNC crowd response to Trump
posted by Excommunicated Cardinal at 7:30 PM on July 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


Curse you Big Kleenex.
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